4 Nov
2012
4 Nov
'12
6:26 p.m.
Yet another computer in the house having died, I have temporarily set my
husband up using my netbook with a monitor, keyboard and mouse, running
Squeeze with Trinity 3.10.13.1.
A single screen is set up that displays on both monitors the same.
This is unusable on the monitor.
I can find no way of setting two different settings. The screen number
control is greyed out.
So I use KContriol to set up a better resolution and sync rate, which
necessarily sets itself up on both. Except that the netbook screen goes on
strike and goes blank.
This suits me fine! But, although I have set this up in KControl, every time
my husband reboots, I have to set the monitor up for him again.
He is forgetting even those computer skills that I had managed to teach him.
I haven't a hope of teaching him how to use KControl for himself.
Help! When I have finished the course I am doing, I shall set him up
properly. But that is not until December. I need to limp him through now.
So is there any way I can persuade Trinity to keep the settings in KControl??
Thanks,
Lisi
4 Nov
4 Nov
10 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Making a dual monitor setting in Kcontrol endure
Lisi Reisz wrote:
So is there any way I can persuade Trinity to keep the
settings in KControl??
I would suggest looking at the command-line tool xrandr and create a
script which calls that with the right settings. Just ask in case you
cannot figure it out. I can also send some examples.
Julius
11:34 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Making a dual monitor setting in Kcontrol endure
On Sunday 04 November 2012 22:00:37 Julius Schwartzenberg wrote:
Lisi Reisz wrote:
Thanks, Julius. That is a very generous offer.
I have started looking at the man entry for xrandr, and have decided that I
shall perhaps understand better after some sleep. I need to look up the
theory behind monitors, I think!! Once I get to look at words like gamma,
when it doesn't mean the third letter of the Greek alphabet, at this time of
night my eyes glaze over .....
Examples would be wonderful. :-)
Lisi
So is there any way I can persuade Trinity to
keep the settings in
KControl??
I would suggest looking at the command-line tool xrandr and create a
script which calls that with the right settings. Just ask in case you
cannot figure it out. I can also send some examples. 
10:31 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Making a dual monitor setting in Kcontrol endure
On 11/04/2012 10:26 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
So is there any way I can persuade Trinity to keep the
settings in
KControl??
I don't know about KControl, but if you run KRandRTray, you can click on the
icon in the system tray and select the monitor you want, or select "Next
available output" and it'll go to the other one. Very easy and foolproof.
I use it to switch to the TV and back when playing movies on a laptop via
S-Video cable.
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11:42 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Making a dual monitor setting in Kcontrol endure
On Sunday 04 November 2012 22:31:05 Dan Youngquist wrote:
On 11/04/2012 10:26 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
Aptitude tells me that there is no such animal. Google tells me that there
was in 3.5.11. :-( I'll look again in the morning. Thanks for the
suggestion.
Lisi
So is there any way I can persuade Trinity to
keep the settings in
KControl??
I don't know about KControl, but if you run KRandRTray, you can click on
the icon in the system tray and select the monitor you want, or select
"Next available output" and it'll go to the other one. Very easy and
foolproof. I use it to switch to the TV and back when playing movies on a
laptop via S-Video cable. 
5 Nov
5 Nov
12:17 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Making a dual monitor setting in Kcontrol endure
On Monday 05 of November 2012 00:42:44 Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Sunday 04 November 2012 22:31:05 Dan Youngquist
wrote:
KRandR you probably have already been installed:
$ dpkg -S $(which krandrtray)
kcontrol-trinity: /opt/trinity/bin/krandrtray
Slavek
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On 11/04/2012 10:26 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
Aptitude tells me that there is no such animal. Google tells me that there
was in 3.5.11. :-( I'll look again in the morning. Thanks for the
suggestion.
Lisi
So is there any way I can persuade Trinity to
keep the settings in
KControl??
I don't know about KControl, but if you run KRandRTray, you can click on
the icon in the system tray and select the monitor you want, or select
"Next available output" and it'll go to the other one. Very easy and
foolproof. I use it to switch to the TV and back when playing movies on a
laptop via S-Video cable. 
12:18 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Making a dual monitor setting in Kcontrol endure
On Sunday 04 November 2012 22:31:05 Dan Youngquist
wrote:
krandrtray is most definitely available in all versions of TDE!
Also, you may want to look into the Monitor and Display module of
KControl; this module allows you to set up a systemwide multi-monitor
configuration that applies automatically on startup.
Tim
On 11/04/2012 10:26 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
Aptitude tells me that there is no such animal. Google tells me that
there
was in 3.5.11. :-( I'll look again in the morning. Thanks for the
suggestion.
Lisi So is there any way I can persuade Trinity to
keep the settings in
KControl??
I don't know about KControl, but if you run KRandRTray, you can click on
the icon in the system tray and select the monitor you want, or select
"Next available output" and it'll go to the other one. Very easy and
foolproof. I use it to switch to the TV and back when playing movies on
a
laptop via S-Video cable.
8:52 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Making a dual monitor setting in Kcontrol endure
On Monday 05 November 2012 00:18:35 Timothy Pearson wrote:
Thanks, Tim. That is what I thought, and what I have been trying without
success to do. :-( Settings for screen is greyed out, and the settings I
input disappear when I reboot.
Lisi
On Sunday 04
November 2012 22:31:05 Dan Youngquist wrote:
krandrtray is most definitely available in all versions of TDE!
Also, you may want to look into the Monitor and Display module of
KControl; this module allows you to set up a systemwide multi-monitor
configuration that applies automatically on startup. On 11/04/2012 10:26 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
Aptitude tells me that there is no such animal. Google tells me that
there
was in 3.5.11. :-( I'll look again in the morning. Thanks for the
suggestion.
Lisi So is there any way I can persuade Trinity to
keep the settings in
KControl??
I don't know about KControl, but if you run KRandRTray, you can click on
the icon in the system tray and select the monitor you want, or select
"Next available output" and it'll go to the other one. Very easy and
foolproof. I use it to switch to the TV and back when playing movies on
a
laptop via S-Video cable.
5:09 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Making a dual monitor setting in Kcontrol endure
On Monday 05 November 2012 00:18:35 Timothy Pearson
wrote:
krandrtray is most definitely available in all versions of TDE!
Also, you may want to look into the Monitor and Display module of
KControl; this module allows you to set up a systemwide multi-monitor
configuration that applies automatically on startup.
Thanks, Tim. That is what I thought, and what I have been trying without
success to do. :-( Settings for screen is greyed out, and the settings
I
input disappear when I reboot.
Lisi
Be aware that there are two modules with a similar name; one has a
checkbox on the first tab and requires root privileges; this is the one
you want to use. The other does not and is an old, broken Ubuntu
holdover.
Tim
On Sunday
04 November 2012 22:31:05 Dan Youngquist wrote:
> On 11/04/2012 10:26 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > So is there any way I can persuade Trinity to keep the settings in
> > KControl??
>
> I don't know about KControl, but if you run KRandRTray, you can click
on
> the icon in the system tray and select the
monitor you want, or
select
> "Next available output" and
it'll go to the other one. Very easy and
> foolproof. I use it to switch to the TV and back when playing movies
on
a
laptop via S-Video cable.
Aptitude tells me that there is no such animal. Google tells me that
there
was in 3.5.11. :-( I'll look again in the morning. Thanks for the
suggestion.
Lisi
9 Nov
9 Nov
2:31 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Making a dual monitor setting in Kcontrol endure
On Monday 05 November 2012 17:09:54 Timothy Pearson wrote:
Be aware that there are two modules with a similar
name; one has a
checkbox on the first tab and requires root privileges; this is the one
you want to use. The other does not and is an old, broken Ubuntu
holdover.
Thanks, Timothy. :-)
Worked a treat. I hadn't realised that there were two, as you surmised.
Lisi
9:25 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Mainstream Linux Desktop trends
An article here, I thought it might interest TDE users :
https://igurublog.wordpress.com/2012/11/05/gnome-et-al-rotting-in-threes/
It's mostly about Gnome3 but has plenty to say about "mainstream"
desktops trends generally...
David
13 Nov
13 Nov
6:04 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Mainstream Linux Desktop trends
An article here, I thought it might interest TDE users
:
https://igurublog.wordpress.com/2012/11/05/gnome-et-al-rotting-in-threes/
It's mostly about Gnome3 but has plenty to say about "mainstream" desktops
trends generally...
David
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After reading that, I have only one thing to say: Long life to TDE!
Pascal
10:08 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Mainstream Linux Desktop trends
On Tuesday 13 November 2012 18:04:55 Pascal Viandier wrote:
> An article here, I thought it might interest TDE
users :
>
> https://igurublog.wordpress.com/2012/11/05/gnome-et-al-rotting-in-threes/
>
> It's mostly about Gnome3 but has plenty to say about "mainstream"
> desktops trends generally...
>
> David
[snip]
After reading that, I have only one thing to say:
Long life to TDE!
Shades of KDE4. I got attacked for daring not to like KDE4. I was bullied to
say why I didn't like it, then told that my reasons were rubbish and I had no
right to be a "KDE4 refuser". So Gnome 3 is going the same way. Aren't we
lucky?
Thanks all you developers. You are helping to keep some of us sane. Long
life to all of you.
Lisi
10:25 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Mainstream Linux Desktop trends
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 11:08 PM, Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz(a)gmail.com> wrote:
(...)
Shades of KDE4. I got attacked for daring not to like
KDE4. I was bullied to
say why I didn't like it, then told that my reasons were rubbish and I had no
right to be a "KDE4 refuser". So Gnome 3 is going the same way. Aren't
we
lucky?
Looking for information about Windows 8 acceptance/refusal I found out
those that don't like "Metro" get the same treatment.... Seems
"forward is the way to go even if it's not good for you" is a very
general rule.
Some dream of Linux becoming a "popular" OS - maybe it actually
already has. And maybe I'd prefer it remains a Geek OS....
Thierry
15 Nov
15 Nov
11:54 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Mainstream Linux Desktop trends
Le mardi 13 novembre 2012, Thierry de Coulon a écrit :
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 11:08 PM, Lisi Reisz
<lisi.reisz(a)gmail.com> wrote:
(...)
-10 :-/
<troll>
From 1996 to 2005, I bought SuSE Linux and Open Suse Novell,
considering thus participate in the war against WindOverDose affort. I was
rich at the time! I have bought / paid for the wind?
The Geek want to improve their system. Anything inconsistent with
the "popular" user, the "grand public"?
The developers teams must leave the projects private despots. They are
idiots and sufficient, and do not know they are wrong because they believe
themselves incapable of error. They proclaim themselves experts
in "windows management", and as such decide for others, especially
for "ordinary" users, and possibly, for "ordinary" (-: Trinity team)
developers. There was one who spoke in these lists. In my opinion, KDE team
committed suicide and killed Suse with him.
<troll>
At the time Lisa + Macinsosh were models for Microsoft, everything was
getting better [1985 .. 1995]. Now, Microsoft "Vista" (and following) is
the model for Linux: how, starting from the mediocrity, do not get
mediocrity?
</troll>
</troll>
Shades of KDE4. I got attacked for daring not to
like KDE4. I was
bullied to say why I didn't like it, then told that my reasons were
rubbish and I had no right to be a "KDE4 refuser". So Gnome 3 is going
the same way. Aren't we lucky?
Looking for information about Windows 8 acceptance/refusal I found out
those that don't like "Metro" get the same treatment.... Seems
"forward is the way to go even if it's not good for you" is a very
general rule.
Some dream of Linux becoming a "popular" OS - maybe it actually
already has. And maybe I'd prefer it remains a Geek OS....
Thierry
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