Hi all;
I'm about done with debian-11, security is 2/3rds of the typing I am doing.
So tell me please what desktop to install, that will not clash, but will be over rode in apt or synaptic, long enough to get trinity installed. I've tried, something like 29 times so far to get an install that works without automatically installing brltty and orca because it thinks I'm blind. The secret there is unplug any serial adaptors from the usb tree before doing the install. But every time I do a new install, it uses a different UUID someplace that screws up a working install on a separate drive.
So I'm going to strip my usb tree down to bare bones and do the 30th install. but I want to know what desktop I can install, that will let me put tde on later w/o a broken package dependency hell resulting.
Thanks for any encouragement.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
Hi Gene!
Anno domini 2022 Sun, 12 Jun 14:55:52 -0400 gene heskett scripsit:
Hi all;
I'm about done with debian-11, security is 2/3rds of the typing I am doing.
So tell me please what desktop to install, that will not clash, but will be over rode in apt or synaptic, long enough to get trinity installed. I've tried, something like 29 times so far to get an install that works without automatically installing brltty and orca because it thinks I'm blind. The secret there is unplug any serial adaptors from the usb tree before doing the install. But every time I do a new install, it uses a different UUID someplace that screws up a working install on a separate drive.
Don't install any desktop at all, don't install Xorg. When the "tasksel" comes up enabel "sshd" and deselect XFCE, xorg etc.. Then finish the installation, reboot, add TDE repositories, install TDE it and in case xorg was missed install it, too. Reboot and things should be fine.
Nik
So I'm going to strip my usb tree down to bare bones and do the 30th install. but I want to know what desktop I can install, that will let me put tde on later w/o a broken package dependency hell resulting.
Thanks for any encouragement.
Cheers, Gene Heskett ____________________________________________________ tde-users mailing list -- users@trinitydesktop.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@trinitydesktop.org Web mail archive available at https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@trinitydeskto...
On 6/12/22 15:20, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Hi Gene!
Anno domini 2022 Sun, 12 Jun 14:55:52 -0400 gene heskett scripsit:
Hi all;
I'm about done with debian-11, security is 2/3rds of the typing I am doing.
So tell me please what desktop to install, that will not clash, but will be over rode in apt or synaptic, long enough to get trinity installed. I've tried, something like 29 times so far to get an install that works without automatically installing brltty and orca because it thinks I'm blind. The secret there is unplug any serial adaptors from the usb tree before doing the install. But every time I do a new install, it uses a different UUID someplace that screws up a working install on a separate drive.
Don't install any desktop at all, don't install Xorg. When the "tasksel" comes up enabel "sshd" and deselect XFCE, xorg etc.. Then finish the installation, reboot, add TDE repositories, install TDE it and in case xorg was missed install it, too. Reboot and things should be fine.
Nik Thanks Nik, exactly what I wanted to know, and someone else remined me of gpm which enables mouse funtions on an alt+ctl+F3 screen. Both will be helpfull on the next install. Too late to save this one.
So I'm going to strip my usb tree down to bare bones and do the 30th install. but I want to know what desktop I can install, that will let me put tde on later w/o a broken package dependency hell resulting.
Thanks for any encouragement.
Cheers, Gene Heskett ____________________________________________________ tde-users mailing list -- users@trinitydesktop.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@trinitydesktop.org Web mail archive available at https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@trinitydeskto...
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256
On Sunday 12 June 2022, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp was heard to say:
Don't install any desktop at all, don't install Xorg. When the "tasksel" comes up enabel "sshd" and deselect XFCE, xorg etc.. Then finish the installation, reboot, add TDE repositories, install TDE it and in case xorg was missed install it, too. Reboot and things should be fine.
Nik
It's been my experience that tde-trinity dependencies load xorg without any problems at all.
It "just worked".
Looking forward to hearing Gene's experience this time.
Curt-
- -- You may my glories and my state dispose, But not my griefs; still am I king of those. --- William Shakespeare, "Richard II"
On 6/12/22 15:50, Curt Howland wrote:
On Sunday 12 June 2022, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp was heard to say:
Don't install any desktop at all, don't install Xorg. When the "tasksel" comes up enabel "sshd" and deselect XFCE, xorg etc.. Then finish the installation, reboot, add TDE repositories, install TDE it and in case xorg was missed install it, too. Reboot and things should be fine.
Nik
It's been my experience that tde-trinity dependencies load xorg without any problems at all.
It "just worked".
Looking forward to hearing Gene's experience this time.
Curt-
It's bad Curt. Even with no x stuff at all, even aptitude couldn't come up with the solution, So I q'd out of it, I'm afraid of it as it has destroyed the systm and made a re-install required. Several times over the last 20 years. OTOH, I'm so afraid of aptitude that I don't know how to run it properly.
So I gave up, and because I'm using xfce4 on 5 other machines here, had a root session of apt install it which pulled in 434 more packages, Then startx locked up tight and I had to power cycle it to reboot, and was pleasantly surprised to be greeted by what I think was the lightdm login when it had rebooted..
And thunderbird seems to have remembered my creds at the mail server so here I am, but t-bird has yet to learn how to make local folders and sort the imap downloads into them. Used to be the right mouse button did all that but that was 15 years ago. Being used to xfce4, I can probably tolerate it, but would really like to have something like trinity's kmail. kde5 ain't it, poor stability and Ingo is no better at herding cats than he was 20 years ago, bugs don't get fixed. So here I am, till I find a better email agent, suggestions welcome.
Thanks Curt, take care & stay well.
Cheers, Gene
tde-users mailing list -- users@trinitydesktop.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@trinitydesktop.org Web mail archive available at
https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@trinitydeskto...
.
On Sunday 12 June 2022 01:55:52 pm gene heskett wrote:
I'm about done with debian-11, security is 2/3rds of the typing I am doing.
So tell me please what desktop to install, that will not clash, but will be over rode in apt or synaptic, long enough to get trinity installed. I've tried, something like 29 times so far to get an install that works without automatically installing brltty and orca because it thinks I'm blind. The secret there is unplug any serial adaptors from the usb tree before doing the install. But every time I do a new install, it uses a different UUID someplace that screws up a working install on a separate drive.
So I'm going to strip my usb tree down to bare bones and do the 30th install. but I want to know what desktop I can install, that will let me put tde on later w/o a broken package dependency hell resulting.
Xfce should work? Well it did in debian 10.
If you have no need for the other desktop(s), then do what Nik suggested. Install no desktop at all. Just install debian base/network such that you don't install a desktop and then manually add TDE through the root command line (which is all you'd have at that point).
It's reasonably easy, I've done it several times in the past, but it does require you to physically print out the TDE install instructions (or have a second computer to look at). Well, do expect typos :( , but they're easy enough to fix.
HTH, Michael
/same here, mostly I am using Devuan server iso for installs. No X, more cli tools/apps. I use links2, web browser, go to Trinity site, dl keyring, it will satisfy apt secure and create trinity repo entries in /etc/apt/sources.d/.
To avoid misinformation, dl the appropriate trinity repos also. bad memory
greg
-
Curt Howland -
Dr. Nikolaus Klepp -
gene heskett -
Greg Madden -
Michael