7 Oct
2012
7 Oct
'12
8:52 a.m.
I am running:
Trinity 3.5.13 updated with Slavek's patches
Squeeze
LXDE installed and used when essential
I have just run aptitude update. There were no upgrades. There were
2 yesterday.
My keyboard has disappeared in Trinity. There is obviously nothing
wrong with the keyboard(s), both PS2 and USB, both of which I have
tried, or the connection to the motherboard, since keyboards work in
the BIOS, gdm and LXDE.
This situation is made worse for me by the fact that k*-trinity
applications, with the exception of Konqueror, will not run in LXDE.
There is no KWrite, and I do not find Nano a long term acceptable
substitute, and I can run neither KMail nor Amarok. Not only are
these applications not in the menu, they will not run in the console,
with error message "command not found".
What have I done to upset Trinity?? And how do I persuade it to
function for me again?? There is obviously a problem with my imported
home. Other people for whom I have installed Trinity, but who had
little or no previous data, have ridden off into the sunset. But what
problem, where?
Lisi
7 Oct
7 Oct
1:25 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Keyboard in Trinity and K*-trinity applications in LXDE
On Sunday 07 of October 2012 10:52:47 Lisi Reisz wrote:
I am running:
Trinity 3.5.13 updated with Slavek's patches
Squeeze
LXDE installed and used when essential
I have just run aptitude update. There were no upgrades. There were
2 yesterday.
My keyboard has disappeared in Trinity. There is obviously nothing
wrong with the keyboard(s), both PS2 and USB, both of which I have
tried, or the connection to the motherboard, since keyboards work in
the BIOS, gdm and LXDE.
This situation is made worse for me by the fact that k*-trinity
applications, with the exception of Konqueror, will not run in LXDE.
There is no KWrite, and I do not find Nano a long term acceptable
substitute, and I can run neither KMail nor Amarok. Not only are
these applications not in the menu, they will not run in the console,
with error message "command not found".
What have I done to upset Trinity?? And how do I persuade it to
function for me again?? There is obviously a problem with my imported
home. Other people for whom I have installed Trinity, but who had
little or no previous data, have ridden off into the sunset. But what
problem, where?
Lisi
Lisi,
your problem with the keyboard reminds me that I once had a broken
keyboard in Trinity 3.5.12 on the machine my parents. On a text console
worked without problems. The KDM worked without problems, but after
logging into their profile did not work.
Probably not comforted you - it was something in the profile. Although
Trinity 3.5.12 used for more than a year, suddenly "something" happened
and keyboard just did not work.
When I put away the profile and started with the new, the keyboard works.
Gradually, I put back to profile important settings (kmail, kopete,
bookmarks,...) and keyboard still works. Unfortunately, I did not go into
such detail, and so I not find causes.
Note: Under LXDE TDE programs can not run, because TDE is not set in the
system PATH. TDE into PATH usually adds startkde. Try:
export PATH=/opt/trinity/bin:$PATH
export KDEDIR=/opt/trinity
export KDEHOME=$HOME/.trinity
...and then run TDE programs.
Slavek
--
2:34 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Keyboard in Trinity and K*-trinity applications in LXDE
On 7 October 2012 14:25, Slávek Banko <slavek.banko(a)axis.cz> wrote:
On Sunday 07 of October 2012 10:52:47 Lisi Reisz
wrote:
Hi, Slávek!
I didn't see this until after I had replied to Julius's post. Did I
say how much I dislike the Gmail interface? :-(
I shall certainly try both your suggestions. Thank you very much for them.
Lisi
I am running:
Trinity 3.5.13 updated with Slavek's patches
Squeeze
LXDE installed and used when essential
I have just run aptitude update. There were no upgrades. There were
2 yesterday.
My keyboard has disappeared in Trinity. There is obviously nothing
wrong with the keyboard(s), both PS2 and USB, both of which I have
tried, or the connection to the motherboard, since keyboards work in
the BIOS, gdm and LXDE.
This situation is made worse for me by the fact that k*-trinity
applications, with the exception of Konqueror, will not run in LXDE.
There is no KWrite, and I do not find Nano a long term acceptable
substitute, and I can run neither KMail nor Amarok. Not only are
these applications not in the menu, they will not run in the console,
with error message "command not found".
What have I done to upset Trinity?? And how do I persuade it to
function for me again?? There is obviously a problem with my imported
home. Other people for whom I have installed Trinity, but who had
little or no previous data, have ridden off into the sunset. But what
problem, where?
Lisi
Lisi,
your problem with the keyboard reminds me that I once had a broken
keyboard in Trinity 3.5.12 on the machine my parents. On a text console
worked without problems. The KDM worked without problems, but after
logging into their profile did not work.
Probably not comforted you - it was something in the profile. Although
Trinity 3.5.12 used for more than a year, suddenly "something" happened
and keyboard just did not work.
When I put away the profile and started with the new, the keyboard works.
Gradually, I put back to profile important settings (kmail, kopete,
bookmarks,...) and keyboard still works. Unfortunately, I did not go into
such detail, and so I not find causes.
Note: Under LXDE TDE programs can not run, because TDE is not set in the
system PATH. TDE into PATH usually adds startkde. Try:
export PATH=/opt/trinity/bin:$PATH
export KDEDIR=/opt/trinity
export KDEHOME=$HOME/.trinity
...and then run TDE programs.
Slavek
8 Oct
8 Oct
1:23 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Keyboard in Trinity and K*-trinity applications in LXDE
On 7 October 2012 15:34, Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 7 October 2012 14:25, Slávek Banko
<slavek.banko(a)axis.cz> wrote:
Hi, again, Slávek. :-)
I have tried the export PATH route, both as my user and as root.
Still no joy.
I'm afraid I am not sure which files I have to delete or move in order
to delete or move my profile. It is probably staring me in the face,
but I have searched both online and on my box. Nada. There is none
so blind as he will not see, but I still can't see. :-(
Thanks,
Lisi
On Sunday 07 of October 2012 10:52:47 Lisi Reisz
wrote:
Hi, Slávek!
I didn't see this until after I had replied to Julius's post. Did I
say how much I dislike the Gmail interface? :-(
I shall certainly try both your suggestions. Thank you very much for them.
Lisi I am running:
Trinity 3.5.13 updated with Slavek's patches
Squeeze
LXDE installed and used when essential
I have just run aptitude update. There were no upgrades. There were
2 yesterday.
My keyboard has disappeared in Trinity. There is obviously nothing
wrong with the keyboard(s), both PS2 and USB, both of which I have
tried, or the connection to the motherboard, since keyboards work in
the BIOS, gdm and LXDE.
This situation is made worse for me by the fact that k*-trinity
applications, with the exception of Konqueror, will not run in LXDE.
There is no KWrite, and I do not find Nano a long term acceptable
substitute, and I can run neither KMail nor Amarok. Not only are
these applications not in the menu, they will not run in the console,
with error message "command not found".
What have I done to upset Trinity?? And how do I persuade it to
function for me again?? There is obviously a problem with my imported
home. Other people for whom I have installed Trinity, but who had
little or no previous data, have ridden off into the sunset. But what
problem, where?
Lisi
Lisi,
your problem with the keyboard reminds me that I once had a broken
keyboard in Trinity 3.5.12 on the machine my parents. On a text console
worked without problems. The KDM worked without problems, but after
logging into their profile did not work.
Probably not comforted you - it was something in the profile. Although
Trinity 3.5.12 used for more than a year, suddenly "something" happened
and keyboard just did not work.
When I put away the profile and started with the new, the keyboard works.
Gradually, I put back to profile important settings (kmail, kopete,
bookmarks,...) and keyboard still works. Unfortunately, I did not go into
such detail, and so I not find causes.
Note: Under LXDE TDE programs can not run, because TDE is not set in the
system PATH. TDE into PATH usually adds startkde. Try:
export PATH=/opt/trinity/bin:$PATH
export KDEDIR=/opt/trinity
export KDEHOME=$HOME/.trinity
...and then run TDE programs.
Slavek
4:19 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Keyboard in Trinity and K*-trinity applications in LXDE
Dne po 8. října 2012 Lisi Reisz napsal(a):
On 7 October 2012 15:34, Lisi Reisz
<lisi.reisz(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Still says "command not found"? That would mean that the PATH setting was
not successful. Please check it in xterm (or terminal emulator, which is
in xfce).
On 7 October 2012 14:25, Slávek Banko
<slavek.banko(a)axis.cz> wrote:
Hi, again, Slávek. :-)
I have tried the export PATH route, both as my user and as root.
Still no joy.
On Sunday 07 of October 2012 10:52:47 Lisi Reisz
wrote:
Hi, Slávek!
I didn't see this until after I had replied to Julius's post. Did I
say how much I dislike the Gmail interface? :-(
I shall certainly try both your suggestions. Thank you very much for
them.
Lisi I am running:
Trinity 3.5.13 updated with Slavek's patches
Squeeze
LXDE installed and used when essential
I have just run aptitude update. There were no upgrades. There
were 2 yesterday.
My keyboard has disappeared in Trinity. There is obviously nothing
wrong with the keyboard(s), both PS2 and USB, both of which I have
tried, or the connection to the motherboard, since keyboards work
in the BIOS, gdm and LXDE.
This situation is made worse for me by the fact that k*-trinity
applications, with the exception of Konqueror, will not run in
LXDE. There is no KWrite, and I do not find Nano a long term
acceptable substitute, and I can run neither KMail nor Amarok. Not
only are these applications not in the menu, they will not run in
the console, with error message "command not found".
What have I done to upset Trinity?? And how do I persuade it to
function for me again?? There is obviously a problem with my
imported home. Other people for whom I have installed Trinity, but
who had little or no previous data, have ridden off into the
sunset. But what problem, where?
Lisi
Lisi,
your problem with the keyboard reminds me that I once had a broken
keyboard in Trinity 3.5.12 on the machine my parents. On a text
console worked without problems. The KDM worked without problems,
but after logging into their profile did not work.
Probably not comforted you - it was something in the profile.
Although Trinity 3.5.12 used for more than a year, suddenly
"something" happened and keyboard just did not work.
When I put away the profile and started with the new, the keyboard
works. Gradually, I put back to profile important settings (kmail,
kopete, bookmarks,...) and keyboard still works. Unfortunately, I
did not go into such detail, and so I not find causes.
Note: Under LXDE TDE programs can not run, because TDE is not set in
the system PATH. TDE into PATH usually adds startkde. Try:
export PATH=/opt/trinity/bin:$PATH
export KDEDIR=/opt/trinity
export KDEHOME=$HOME/.trinity
...and then run TDE programs.
Slavek I'm afraid I am not sure which files I have to
delete or move in order
to delete or move my profile. It is probably staring me in the face,
but I have searched both online and on my box. Nada. There is none
so blind as he will not see, but I still can't see. :-(
I progressed so that I whole ".trinity" put aside. After that I login with
new Trinity profile and have tested that keyboard is in order. After then
I logout, copied back to ".trinity" selected parts of settings (kmail,
kopete, bookmarks, etc) and re-login. In the same way, I returned the
next parts of the settings.
Thanks,
Lisi
Slavek
--
4:25 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Keyboard in Trinity and K*-trinity applications in LXDE
On 8 October 2012 17:19, Slávek Banko <slavek.banko(a)axis.cz> wrote:
Dne po 8. října 2012 Lisi Reisz napsal(a):
Thanks again, Slávek. I am very grateful for your help.
Lisi
On 7 October 2012 15:34, Lisi Reisz
<lisi.reisz(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Still says "command not found"? That would mean that the PATH setting was
not successful. Please check it in xterm (or terminal emulator, which is
in xfce).
On 7 October 2012 14:25, Slávek Banko
<slavek.banko(a)axis.cz> wrote:
Hi, again, Slávek. :-)
I have tried the export PATH route, both as my user and as root.
Still no joy.
On Sunday 07 of October 2012 10:52:47 Lisi Reisz
wrote:
> I am running:
> Trinity 3.5.13 updated with Slavek's patches
> Squeeze
> LXDE installed and used when essential
> I have just run aptitude update. There were no upgrades. There
> were 2 yesterday.
>
> My keyboard has disappeared in Trinity. There is obviously nothing
> wrong with the keyboard(s), both PS2 and USB, both of which I have
> tried, or the connection to the motherboard, since keyboards work
> in the BIOS, gdm and LXDE.
>
> This situation is made worse for me by the fact that k*-trinity
> applications, with the exception of Konqueror, will not run in
> LXDE. There is no KWrite, and I do not find Nano a long term
> acceptable substitute, and I can run neither KMail nor Amarok. Not
> only are these applications not in the menu, they will not run in
> the console, with error message "command not found".
>
> What have I done to upset Trinity?? And how do I persuade it to
> function for me again?? There is obviously a problem with my
> imported home. Other people for whom I have installed Trinity, but
> who had little or no previous data, have ridden off into the
> sunset. But what problem, where?
>
> Lisi
Lisi,
your problem with the keyboard reminds me that I once had a broken
keyboard in Trinity 3.5.12 on the machine my parents. On a text
console worked without problems. The KDM worked without problems,
but after logging into their profile did not work.
Probably not comforted you - it was something in the profile.
Although Trinity 3.5.12 used for more than a year, suddenly
"something" happened and keyboard just did not work.
When I put away the profile and started with the new, the keyboard
works. Gradually, I put back to profile important settings (kmail,
kopete, bookmarks,...) and keyboard still works. Unfortunately, I
did not go into such detail, and so I not find causes.
Note: Under LXDE TDE programs can not run, because TDE is not set in
the system PATH. TDE into PATH usually adds startkde. Try:
export PATH=/opt/trinity/bin:$PATH
export KDEDIR=/opt/trinity
export KDEHOME=$HOME/.trinity
...and then run TDE programs.
Slavek
Hi, Slávek!
I didn't see this until after I had replied to Julius's post. Did I
say how much I dislike the Gmail interface? :-(
I shall certainly try both your suggestions. Thank you very much for
them.
Lisi I'm afraid I am not sure which files I have
to delete or move in order
to delete or move my profile. It is probably staring me in the face,
but I have searched both online and on my box. Nada. There is none
so blind as he will not see, but I still can't see. :-(
I progressed so that I whole ".trinity" put aside. After that I login with
new Trinity profile and have tested that keyboard is in order. After then
I logout, copied back to ".trinity" selected parts of settings (kmail,
kopete, bookmarks, etc) and re-login. In the same way, I returned the
next parts of the settings. 
6:13 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Keyboard in Trinity and K*-trinity applications in LXDE
On 08/10/12 16:19, Slávek Banko wrote:
Under LXDE TDE programs can not run, because TDE is
not set in
> >> the system PATH. TDE into PATH usually adds startkde. Try:
> >>
> >> export PATH=/opt/trinity/bin:$PATH
> >> export KDEDIR=/opt/trinity
> >> export KDEHOME=$HOME/.trinity
> >>
> >> ...and then run TDE programs.
I tried adding these lines in ~/.bashrc :
PATH=/opt/trinity/bin:$PATH
KDEDIR=/opt/trinity
KDEHOME=$HOME/.trinity
(after relogin) No luck calling tde apps from a LXDE "run" box without
full path (e.g. /opt/trinity/bin/kwrite)
When added also to ~/.profile - on relogin it worked without full path.
Why I don't know, I thought .profile sourced .bashrc at login. Never
mind, that does the job.
Maybe the same for /root e.g. for a text editor, not tried yet.
If you migrated a whole bulk of settings from another system any trouble
is most likely config files not tde bug, setting up a new "test" user
account will prove that
David
6:20 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Keyboard in Trinity and K*-trinity applications in LXDE
Dne po 8. října 2012 David Hare napsal(a):
On 08/10/12 16:19, Slávek Banko wrote:
Is the user's shell bash or dash?
I have in .profile:
#if [ -f ~/.bashrc ]; then
# source ~/.bashrc
#fi
In other words, .bashrc is not processed from .profile.
Slavek
--
Under LXDE TDE programs can not run, because TDE
is not set in
> >> the system PATH. TDE into PATH usually adds startkde. Try:
> >>
> >> export PATH=/opt/trinity/bin:$PATH
> >> export KDEDIR=/opt/trinity
> >> export KDEHOME=$HOME/.trinity
> >>
> >> ...and then run TDE programs.
I tried adding these lines in ~/.bashrc :
PATH=/opt/trinity/bin:$PATH
KDEDIR=/opt/trinity
KDEHOME=$HOME/.trinity
(after relogin) No luck calling tde apps from a LXDE "run" box without
full path (e.g. /opt/trinity/bin/kwrite)
When added also to ~/.profile - on relogin it worked without full path.
Why I don't know, I thought .profile sourced .bashrc at login. Never
mind, that does the job.
Maybe the same for /root e.g. for a text editor, not tried yet.
If you migrated a whole bulk of settings from another system any
trouble is most likely config files not tde bug, setting up a new
"test" user account will prove that
David
6:45 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Keyboard in Trinity and K*-trinity applications in LXDE
On 08/10/12 18:20, Slávek Banko wrote:
Dne po 8. října 2012 David Hare napsal(a):
:~$ echo $SHELL
/bin/bash
Snip from my (Squeeze original, as in /etc/skel) ~/.profile:
if [ -n "$BASH_VERSION" ]; then
# include .bashrc if it exists
if [ -f "$HOME/.bashrc" ]; then
. "$HOME/.bashrc"
fi
fi
Should that read $HOME/.bashrc or have I missed something?
David
On 08/10/12 16:19, Slávek Banko wrote:
Is the user's shell bash or dash?
I have in .profile:
#if [ -f ~/.bashrc ]; then
# source ~/.bashrc
#fi
In other words, .bashrc is not processed from .profile.
Slavek Under LXDE TDE programs can not run, because TDE
is not set in
> >> the system PATH. TDE into PATH usually adds startkde. Try:
> >>
> >> export PATH=/opt/trinity/bin:$PATH
> >> export KDEDIR=/opt/trinity
> >> export KDEHOME=$HOME/.trinity
> >>
> >> ...and then run TDE programs.
I tried adding these lines in ~/.bashrc :
PATH=/opt/trinity/bin:$PATH
KDEDIR=/opt/trinity
KDEHOME=$HOME/.trinity
(after relogin) No luck calling tde apps from a LXDE "run" box without
full path (e.g. /opt/trinity/bin/kwrite)
When added also to ~/.profile - on relogin it worked without full path.
Why I don't know, I thought .profile sourced .bashrc at login. Never
mind, that does the job.
Maybe the same for /root e.g. for a text editor, not tried yet.
If you migrated a whole bulk of settings from another system any
trouble is most likely config files not tde bug, setting up a new
"test" user account will prove that
David
6:45 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Keyboard in Trinity and K*-trinity applications in LXDE
On 8 October 2012 19:13, David Hare <davidahare(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 08/10/12 16:19, Slávek Banko wrote:
I don't need a test to prove that! it is certainly the case. I have
seen my files! In fact, I had decided on a complete reinstall next
week, and am relieved to find that merely deleting .trinity might
work, for considerably less effort!
But I had not realised that these particular problems were due to
that. Anyhow, if it were a bug, it is as likely in LXDE or Squeeze as
in Trinity - and then there is always PEBKAC.
I really can't do much until next week, but I shall try your
suggestions. I could do with access to my KMail before Gmail drives
me totally insane.
Thanks,
Lisi
Under LXDE TDE programs can not run, because TDE is not set in
>
> >> the system PATH. TDE into PATH usually adds startkde. Try:
> >>
> >> export PATH=/opt/trinity/bin:$PATH
> >> export KDEDIR=/opt/trinity
> >> export KDEHOME=$HOME/.trinity
> >>
> >> ...and then run TDE programs.
I tried adding these lines in ~/.bashrc :
PATH=/opt/trinity/bin:$PATH
KDEDIR=/opt/trinity
KDEHOME=$HOME/.trinity
(after relogin) No luck calling tde apps from a LXDE "run" box without full
path (e.g. /opt/trinity/bin/kwrite)
When added also to ~/.profile - on relogin it worked without full path. Why
I don't know, I thought .profile sourced .bashrc at login. Never mind, that
does the job.
Maybe the same for /root e.g. for a text editor, not tried yet.
If you migrated a whole bulk of settings from another system any trouble is
most likely config files not tde bug, setting up a new "test" user account
will prove that
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