On Friday 04 September 2020 01:35:47 pm BorgLabs - Kate Draven via tde-users wrote:

On Friday 04 September 2020, Michael wrote:

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On Friday 04 September 2020 06:23:55 am BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote:

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Ok so, see subject.

Aye tried it all.

It worked just the one time and never again. I don't get it.

Hey Kate,

Does it have a USB port? If so, give the MX Live USB a try?

I think there is a way to, with persistance, change the MX USB to their ahs (advanced hardware support) kernel, but you'd need to dig that up.

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It's those MIB, they came and tweaked it just to baffle you ?! :)

Best, Michael

On Friday 04 September 2020 16:08:14 BorgLabs - Kate Draven via tde-users wrote:

On Friday 04 September 2020, Michael wrote:

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On Friday 04 September 2020 06:23:55 am BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote:

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Ok so, see subject. I'm guessing there might be a hotkey control but I haven't been able to find anything on the web about it. Just the one to shut off the touchpad.

Maybe someone else might have better luck searching for a clue.

It was working, and very well I might add but it stopped.

I did reboot so I'm going to check the startups see if anything of interest shows up there.

Hi Kate,

Seriousl long shot, and I'm sure you've tried it already, but..?..

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Just the one to shut off the touchpad.

Try that to turn it back on?

It seems somewhat reasonable the touch screen would be turned 'off' after a boot (reduces inadvertant 'stuff'). So...

The only other thing I can think of is hardware issue. So, possibly the button is 'sticky?' So do a buch of gentle twisty, pokiey, flexy actions to the touchpad while pushing that button?

Best, Michael

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Ok sooo Ali, Michael, humans, AIs and others.

The touchscreen is working again. o_0

I booted up and did the tappy, giggling thing with the buttons so many times but nothing happened. This time, something happened. Not sure what.

Going to keep rebooting and see when it fails.

Clearly there are either laptop germlins, or MIB involved. I will entertain any other theories.

Kate

You caught Murphy, of all those laws, drinking your last beer and threw him out?

Last time he did that to me, I put a DOA bounty on him, haven't had any trouble I could blame on him since.

Stay safe and well Kate.

Cheers, Gene Heskett

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On Fri, 4 Sep 2020 at 21:26, BorgLabs - Kate Dravenborglabs4@gmail.com wrote: SPOILERS: It was a gremlin!

ok ok, no.

Anyway,  thank you Michael for the clue that lead me to the realization.

Long story short, the touchscreen IS a usb device. I have solaar running to control multiple input devices. So it was a "switch" and perm problem. In order for solaar to work you have plug out all usb pointer devices, then back in again. I can't do that with the TS. BUTT when I go into hybernation, the perms are "remembered" and this time the screen is activated. There's the fiddly switch problem. I was able to confirm it with repeated full reboots and hybernation boot.

My next text will be to disable solaar and see if it works.

Michael I have added you to the list of life forms I will keep as pets when the universe is mine.

And thanks, of course,to Ali Izzard for creating a great TDE distro that allows this poor ideapad to be fully function. Considering it was never fully functional under the "native" OS Itblow 10.

"Wiener Dog" is now my daily driver for me onsite pack. All 22ks of it (about 50 lbs). Will 45lbs now that I'm not carrying the 8 lbs laptop.

And thanks to all for your input. This is a great community.

Kate

You are very welcome Kate :) oh I'll be one of your pets huh? Lol

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On Sat, 5 Sep 2020 at 0:06, BorgLabs - Kate Dravenborglabs4@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 04 September 2020, alistair izzard via trinity-users wrote:

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On Fri, 4 Sep 2020 at 21:26, BorgLabs - Kate Dravenborglabs4@gmail.com wrote:  SPOILERS: It was a gremlin!

ok ok, no.

Anyway,  thank you Michael for the clue that lead me to the realization.

Long story short, the touchscreen IS a usb device. I have solaar running to control multiple input devices. So it was a "switch" and perm problem. In order for solaar to work you have plug out all usb pointer devices, then back in again. I can't do that with the TS. BUTT when I go into hybernation, the perms are "remembered" and this time the screen is activated. There's the fiddly switch problem. I was able to confirm it with repeated full reboots and hybernation boot.

My next text will be to disable solaar and see if it works.

Michael I have added you to the list of life forms I will keep as pets when the universe is mine.

And thanks, of course,to Ali Izzard for creating a great TDE distro that allows this poor ideapad to be fully function. Considering it was never fully functional under the "native" OS Itblow 10.

"Wiener Dog" is now my daily driver for me onsite pack. All 22ks of it (about 50 lbs). Will 45lbs now that I'm not carrying the 8 lbs laptop.

And thanks to all for your input. This is a great community.

Kate

You are very welcome Kate :) oh I'll be one of your pets huh? Lol

Alie

Aye, of course you will! And you will get specials treats!

Kate

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On Friday 04 September 2020, deloptes wrote:

BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote:

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It was working, and very well I might add but it stopped.

Your Voodoo hit back :D

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Kate begins sewing up a deloptes voodoo.

We shall see deloptes, we shall see.

Kate

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On Friday 04 September 2020 22:28:40 deloptes wrote:

BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote:

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Kate begins sewing up a deloptes voodoo.

We shall see deloptes, we shall see.

Time ago I was interested for the occult, but at the end I went for science and light.

Myself, I feel that it is part of being a cultured and well-read person, to be acquainted with how people thought and believed about the world ... even if it doesn't fit in with our modern science. The question isn't whether you "believe in it" or not, but whether you can empathize with another person's experience of the Universe.

This would have run on to a much longer rant (all my pet peeves rolled into one), but I'll try to keep in short.

There is poetry and grace in that shadowy side of human culture. Take 95% of songs, stories, poems, the arts, and most of them play on what we might call superstition. There is a kind of magic and poetry about science, too, when we consider the mysteries of quantum physics or higher mathematics or DNA or what-not, but it doesn't usually make for interesting music or stories.

Science fiction: now THAT's bor-ing. The same with ultra-religious art, the same with polticized art, the same with anything that is too much of the same thing. The element of magic, in a story, opens doors where there were none. It lifts our spirits, makes like bearable. One doesn't have to "believe in it" to appreciate it.

And I will say no more. So there.

Bill

Bill

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On Friday 04 September 2020 23:37:34 deloptes wrote:

William Morder via trinity-users wrote:

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Myself, I feel that it is part of being a cultured and well-read person, to be acquainted with how people thought and believed about the world ... even if it doesn't fit in with our modern science. The question isn't whether you "believe in it" or not, but whether you can empathize with another person's experience of the Universe.

This would have run on to a much longer rant (all my pet peeves rolled into one), but I'll try to keep in short.

There is poetry and grace in that shadowy side of human culture. Take 95% of songs, stories, poems, the arts, and most of them play on what we might call superstition. There is a kind of magic and poetry about science, too, when we consider the mysteries of quantum physics or higher mathematics or DNA or what-not, but it doesn't usually make for interesting music or stories.

Science fiction: now THAT's bor-ing. The same with ultra-religious art, the same with polticized art, the same with anything that is too much of the same thing. The element of magic, in a story, opens doors where there were none. It lifts our spirits, makes like bearable. One doesn't have to "believe in it" to appreciate it.

And I will say no more. So there.

This is why I said science and light. Science for what we/I know and light for the rest that we/I don't know. The known is just a tiny fraction of the unknown.

Right on. And I apologize for my typos. You can tell that I was not proofreading myself.

Bill

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On Friday 04 September 2020 23:45:02 deloptes wrote:

William Morder via trinity-users wrote:

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Right on. And I apologize for my typos. You can tell that I was not proofreading myself.

I didn't find anything wrong in your post

You didn't get the proofreading job, sorry!

Bill

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