On Sunday 22 March 2015 02:46:06 Lisi Reisz wrote:

On Sunday 22 March 2015 03:18:36 Gene Heskett wrote:

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This has all worked without a trace of pulse even being installed.

In the Debian list you say that you have installed pavucontrol and it doesn't work. It wouldn't if pulseaudio is not installed. (PulseAudioVolUme = pavu) As I suggested there, have you tested your sound hardware? (I suggested a live CD to test.)

Lisi

Neither of them will run of coarse, no pulse server.

Speaker-test was also muted. As was KsCD with Johnny Cash's "The man comes round" showing on the window and play progress bar.

But I did find and fix it about 4 hours ago, by installing the alsamixer and its gui, which was never done before and finding that it was all turned down to zero when I ran it. So its working again. I haven't had to resort to that in several years.

But my puzzlement stems from wondering why a powerdown reboot should mute it all, except the incoming email beep from kmail. Strange. But at least I know how to fix it if it does it again.

But I would also like to figure out a way to prevent the unconnected hdmi "hda_intel" audio on this eVga made nvidia video card from being discovered and supposedly configured. I cannot blacklist the snd-hda-intel driver module since it is the same driver for both audio systems. And that has occured several times in the past 5 years or so.

The product id for the bad system, card1 is 1302, but that doesn't grep in /lib/udev. And while I have on previous installs, fiddled with udev rules, its in desparation, not from any guru knowledge of how to do it correctly. Greg Hartman is the final answer there, and that mountain of a man is busier than that famous cat, on the equally famous tin roof. :)

The info in the man pages for udev isn't very good at such specifics. That and I get lost in the abreviations without ever learning what the foundation word means. We have way too many TLA's.

Thanks Lisi.

Cheers, Gene Heskett

On Sunday 22 March 2015 05:17:27 Nick Koretsky wrote:

On Sat, 21 Mar 2015 23:18:36 -0400

Gene Heskett gheskett@wdtv.com wrote:

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Greetings all;

I had to reboot after 19+ days of uptime yesterdat, dinking around with a new hard drive that wasn't quite new. Anyway, since then I have only had the new mail beep from mail as entertainment, all web video is silent movies, and even Kscd is muted as in the volume control is greyed out.

This has all worked without a trace of pulse even being installed.

Here is my SWAG on it. This motherboard has 2 snd-hda-intel driven systems thru the MCP55 chipset on this M2N-SLI Deluxe asus board.

My video card, is an eVga whose hdmi audio is not even bonded out, so while it signs in when an lcpci -vv is exec'd, the only noise its ever made is from the GeForce4 8400 GS's cooling fan, which is typically a bearing rattling annoyance. Its an eVga, what can I say, you buy aftermarket fans in 3 packs for them, and its on its 2nd of the 3 now.

But I think somehow that the snd-hda-intel driver has linked itself to the no output stuff on this video card.

Since the same snd-hda-intel driver runs both, how can I blacklist the worthless one? Can I edit something in udev.d to cause the product number 1302 to be ignored? That might be the ultimate hammer to drive tis nail it seems.

Comments, audio guru's?

Post output of "aplay -l" and "aplay -L" and context of /etc/asound.conf

gene@lathe:~$ aplay -l **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices **** card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC662 rev1 Analog [ALC662 rev1 Analog] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 1: ALC662 rev1 Digital [ALC662 rev1 Digital] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 gene@lathe:~$ aplay -L pulse Playback/recording through the PulseAudio sound server front:CARD=Intel,DEV=0 HDA Intel, ALC662 rev1 Analog Front speakers surround40:CARD=Intel,DEV=0 HDA Intel, ALC662 rev1 Analog 4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers surround41:CARD=Intel,DEV=0 HDA Intel, ALC662 rev1 Analog 4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers surround50:CARD=Intel,DEV=0 HDA Intel, ALC662 rev1 Analog 5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers surround51:CARD=Intel,DEV=0 HDA Intel, ALC662 rev1 Analog 5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers surround71:CARD=Intel,DEV=0 HDA Intel, ALC662 rev1 Analog 7.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Side, Rear and Woofer speakers iec958:CARD=Intel,DEV=0 HDA Intel, ALC662 rev1 Digital IEC958 (S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output gene@lathe:~$ cat /etc/asound.conf cat: /etc/asound.conf: No such file or directory

But by installing alsamixer & gui, I found it all turned down. Now turned back up and its all working I think.

So problem mostly solved.

The new mail beep it turns out, is from the pc's own speaker and unaffected by this. My hearings remaining directional senseing didn't point that out to me right away.

Cheers, Gene Heskett