I wanted to try the Trinity Debian image on my other desktop. Although the system sounds work, if I installed (into RAM) Firefox and went to multimedia web sites (YouTube, audio test sites, etc), there is no audio.
The 'lspci -v' command is showing two audio devices:
00:05.0 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation MCP61 High Definition Audio (rev a2) Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 2a6c Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 23 Memory at fe028000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] Capabilities: <access denied> Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
02:00.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Cedar HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 5400/6300/7300 Series] Subsystem: VISIONTEK Device aa68 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 28 Memory at fdcfc000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] Capabilities: <access denied> Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
The Trinity PCLinuxOS image is installed on this desktop's hard drive and audio works everywhere. KMix lists three mixers, PulseAudio (the default), HDA NVidia and HDA ATI HDMI.
The AMD entry is actually a PCI-E x16 video card, with VGA, HDMI and DVI inputs. It's connected to a monitor via HDMI, but the monitor does not have built-in speakers. The NVIDIA entry is the on-board audio.
I tried restarting the audio system by checking then un-checking a box, but on the Debian image, this didn't correct the lack of audio. Is the Debian software possibly not recognizing the audio setup correctly, even though the system sounds work?
Thanks in advance.
On Mon, 16 Nov 2020 18:42:46 -0500 Edward edwardp@gmx.com wrote:
I wanted to try the Trinity Debian image on my other desktop. Although the system sounds work, if I installed (into RAM) Firefox and went to multimedia web sites (YouTube, audio test sites, etc), there is no audio.
The 'lspci -v' command is showing two audio devices:
00:05.0 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation MCP61 High Definition Audio (rev a2) Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 2a6c Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 23 Memory at fe028000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] Capabilities: <access denied> Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
02:00.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Cedar HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 5400/6300/7300 Series] Subsystem: VISIONTEK Device aa68 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 28 Memory at fdcfc000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] Capabilities: <access denied> Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
The Trinity PCLinuxOS image is installed on this desktop's hard drive and audio works everywhere. KMix lists three mixers, PulseAudio (the default), HDA NVidia and HDA ATI HDMI.
The AMD entry is actually a PCI-E x16 video card, with VGA, HDMI and DVI inputs. It's connected to a monitor via HDMI, but the monitor does not have built-in speakers. The NVIDIA entry is the on-board audio.
I tried restarting the audio system by checking then un-checking a box, but on the Debian image, this didn't correct the lack of audio. Is the Debian software possibly not recognizing the audio setup correctly, even though the system sounds work?
Thanks in advance.
BIG typos here, my apologies. :(
Please replace Debian with Ubuntu in the above e-mail.
On 2020/11/17 07:42 AM, Edward via tde-users wrote:
I wanted to try the Trinity Debian image on my other desktop. Although the system sounds work, if I installed (into RAM) Firefox and went to multimedia web sites (YouTube, audio test sites, etc), there is no audio.
Firefox requires PulseAudio to play audio. I guess PA is not installed in the live image :-) Cheers Michele
On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 09:56:39 +0800 Michele Calgaro via tde-users users@trinitydesktop.org wrote:
On 2020/11/17 07:42 AM, Edward via tde-users wrote:
I wanted to try the Trinity Debian image on my other desktop. Although the system sounds work, if I installed (into RAM) Firefox and went to multimedia web sites (YouTube, audio test sites, etc), there is no audio.
Firefox requires PulseAudio to play audio. I guess PA is not installed in the live image :-) Cheers Michele
Hi Michele,
You are correct, Pulse Audio isn't included in the Ubuntu image.
Once I installed Pulse Audio into RAM from Synaptic, there was still no audio from Firefox. When I exited Kmix and re-launched it, Pulse Audio wasn't even listed as an option for it.
On Tuesday 17 November 2020, Edward via tde-users wrote:
On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 09:56:39 +0800
Michele Calgaro via tde-users users@trinitydesktop.org wrote:
On 2020/11/17 07:42 AM, Edward via tde-users wrote:
I wanted to try the Trinity Debian image on my other desktop. Although the system sounds work, if I installed (into RAM) Firefox and went to multimedia web sites (YouTube, audio test sites, etc), there is no audio.
Firefox requires PulseAudio to play audio. I guess PA is not installed in the live image :-) Cheers Michele
Hi Michele,
You are correct, Pulse Audio isn't included in the Ubuntu image.
Once I installed Pulse Audio into RAM from Synaptic, there was still no audio from Firefox. When I exited Kmix and re-launched it, Pulse Audio wasn't even listed as an option for it. ____________________________________________________
Ok with FF and pulse audio, you need to "direct" the output. The best tool, easiest tool to do that with is "Pulseaudio System Tray" there's also PNMixer, but I like PST. Here's a small video of it in use.
Right click on playback streams and choose your output, in my case it's the emu10k2 (sound blaster audigy) I can also send it to my tv (caiso hdmi).
Try installing Pulseaudio System Tray or pavucontrol with pavucontrol-qt gui. If you need some video tutorials, let me know I'll make them.
Kate
On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 10:25:13 -0500 "BorgLabs - Kate Draven" borglabs4@gmail.com wrote:
Ok with FF and pulse audio, you need to "direct" the output. The best tool, easiest tool to do that with is "Pulseaudio System Tray" there's also PNMixer, but I like PST. Here's a small video of it in use.
Right click on playback streams and choose your output, in my case it's the emu10k2 (sound blaster audigy) I can also send it to my tv (caiso hdmi).
Try installing Pulseaudio System Tray or pavucontrol with pavucontrol-qt gui. If you need some video tutorials, let me know I'll make them.
Kate
Although I'm not having audio issues with PCLinuxOS/TDE Mini installed on each of the hard drives (It worked perfectly right out of the box.), pavucontrol is already installed, but not the pavucontrol-qt package.
Playing a music video on YouTube, then launching the PA volune control, it shows the audio for Firefox on "Built-in Audio Analog Stereo", with All Streams as the default. Is this volume control something that should also launch at startup (along with Kmix) and would this work running TDE from the Ubuntu live image?
On Tuesday 17 November 2020, Edward via tde-users wrote:
On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 10:25:13 -0500
"BorgLabs - Kate Draven" borglabs4@gmail.com wrote:
Ok with FF and pulse audio, you need to "direct" the output. The best tool, easiest tool to do that with is "Pulseaudio System Tray" there's also PNMixer, but I like PST. Here's a small video of it in use.
Right click on playback streams and choose your output, in my case it's the emu10k2 (sound blaster audigy) I can also send it to my tv (caiso hdmi).
Try installing Pulseaudio System Tray or pavucontrol with pavucontrol-qt gui. If you need some video tutorials, let me know I'll make them.
Kate
Although I'm not having audio issues with PCLinuxOS/TDE Mini installed on each of the hard drives (It worked perfectly right out of the box.), pavucontrol is already installed, but not the pavucontrol-qt package.
Playing a music video on YouTube, then launching the PA volune control, it shows the audio for Firefox on "Built-in Audio Analog Stereo", with All Streams as the default. Is this volume control something that should also launch at startup (along with Kmix) and would this work running TDE from the Ubuntu live image? ____________________________________________________
I can only speak to installed OSes and don't know much about ubuntus. However, I don't think you'll find these, by default, on any ubuntu live cds.
The PA volume control of your choice, should auto start like kmix. I don't know about ubuntu, so you'll have to see what's available. I have pavucontrol/pavucontrol-qt, PNMixer, and Pulseaudio System Tray (the one I use). Use one of them to shunt the output to your device of choice.
IE Internal audio card, hdmi video card with audio support, bluetooth spearker/headset etc. Experiment with each output until you have sound.
I'm sure others will pop in with clear, better suggestions. So experiment until them. You can't hurt anything.
Cheers,
Kate
On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 12:13:09 -0500 "BorgLabs - Kate Draven" borglabs4@gmail.com wrote:
I can only speak to installed OSes and don't know much about ubuntus. However, I don't think you'll find these, by default, on any ubuntu live cds.
The PA volume control of your choice, should auto start like kmix. I don't know about ubuntu, so you'll have to see what's available. I have pavucontrol/pavucontrol-qt, PNMixer, and Pulseaudio System Tray (the one I use). Use one of them to shunt the output to your device of choice.
IE Internal audio card, hdmi video card with audio support, bluetooth spearker/headset etc. Experiment with each output until you have sound.
I'm sure others will pop in with clear, better suggestions. So experiment until them. You can't hurt anything.
Cheers,
Kate
After trying other LiveCD/DVD's, I've decided to keep Community PCLinuxOS TDE Mini installed on this system as well (have it installed on two). It works to my satisfaction, boots up in a fraction of the time that the previously-installed Linux distribution did and I'm happy with it. :)
I may also have solved the issue where the startup sound wasn't playing at each system boot-up. I went into Trinity Control Center/Sound & Multimedia/Sound System and changed the Skip Prevention Sound Buffer setting from the default 232 milliseconds to 417 milliseconds. So far, at every boot-up (warm or cold), the startup sound has played each time. I have it set to 417 on both systems now.
Hi Michele,
You are correct, Pulse Audio isn't included in the Ubuntu image.
Once I installed Pulse Audio into RAM from Synaptic, there was still no audio from Firefox. When I exited Kmix and re-launched it, Pulse Audio wasn't even listed as an option for it.
Hi Edward, usually after restarting kmix, you should have two mixer to choose from, alsa and PA. Are you sure PA is running?
Cheers Michele
On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 10:20:06 +0800 Michele Calgaro via tde-users users@trinitydesktop.org wrote:
Hi Michele,
You are correct, Pulse Audio isn't included in the Ubuntu image.
Once I installed Pulse Audio into RAM from Synaptic, there was still no audio from Firefox. When I exited Kmix and re-launched it, Pulse Audio wasn't even listed as an option for it.
Hi Edward, usually after restarting kmix, you should have two mixer to choose from, alsa and PA. Are you sure PA is running?
Cheers Michele
If it wasn't, I don't know why. But I have since decided to keep Community PCLinuxOS TDE Mini installed on this desktop as well. I don't mind having it installed on two desktops.
It works and it's a refreshing change from the previous distro. :)
If it wasn't, I don't know why. But I have since decided to keep Community PCLinuxOS TDE Mini installed on this desktop as well. I don't mind having it installed on two desktops.
It works and it's a refreshing change from the previous distro. :)
Ok perfect. In any case I think in future live CD we will probably include PA from the start :-) Cheers Michele
On 11/17/20 10:33 PM, Michele Calgaro via tde-users wrote:
If it wasn't, I don't know why. But I have since decided to keep Community PCLinuxOS TDE Mini installed on this desktop as well. I don't mind having it installed on two desktops.
It works and it's a refreshing change from the previous distro. :)
Ok perfect. In any case I think in future live CD we will probably include PA from the start :-) Cheers Michele
Hi Michele,
More success to report.
I installed the 20.04.1 Trinity/Ubuntu image into a new VirtualBox last night. Upon installing HPLIP, PulseAudio and Bluetooth Manager afterwards, I was successful printing and had audio through both Firefox and Bluetooth.
I would definitely recommend including PulseAudio with future Trinity/Ubuntu releases.
Just waiting for Ubuntu to add the latest Thunderbird (78) to the LTS repos. :)
Anno domini 2020 Tue, 24 Nov 07:49:58 -0500 Edward via tde-users scripsit:
On 11/17/20 10:33 PM, Michele Calgaro via tde-users wrote:
If it wasn't, I don't know why. But I have since decided to keep Community PCLinuxOS TDE Mini installed on this desktop as well. I don't mind having it installed on two desktops.
It works and it's a refreshing change from the previous distro. :)
Ok perfect. In any case I think in future live CD we will probably include PA from the start :-) Cheers Michele
Hi Michele,
More success to report.
I installed the 20.04.1 Trinity/Ubuntu image into a new VirtualBox last night. Upon installing HPLIP, PulseAudio and Bluetooth Manager afterwards, I was successful printing and had audio through both Firefox and Bluetooth.
I would definitely recommend including PulseAudio with future Trinity/Ubuntu releases.
PA is the one thing that I kick first when sound problems occur. For firefox you just need "apulse", if it does not like alsa.
Just waiting for Ubuntu to add the latest Thunderbird (78) to the LTS repos. :)
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