18 May
2021
18 May
'21
12:06 p.m.
Hello all,
I've got a little problem. At work they recently changed their email system
for Office365. I did manage to setup an imap account in kmail, and this
account works, BUT:
When I get a message there, I get no notification. While all other accounts
get their messages in Inbox, or the relevent directory indicated there is
mail, the imap account shows nothing, so if I don't think to look I may miss
important messages.
I had found a workaround by setting up Thunderbird on a raspberry pi.
Thunderbird autoconfigures for this account (of course at work they did not
give me the informations to connect, as we are supposed to be using MacOS or
Windows with application that don't require these) and I forwarded the
messages to my regular mail account. However Thunderbird is a nightmare when
it comes to changing the password, and the work password must be changed
every month... so for the time being Thunderbird no more forwards anything.
I'll take a look at Evolution for the pi, but it would actually be easier if I
could just get informed that a mail arrived on the imap account.
Am I missing some setup, or is it normal that imap doesn't give any feedback
(I normaly use pop for my accounts).
Thierry
18 May
18 May
12:23 p.m.
Thierry de Coulon via tde-users wrote:
I've got a little problem. At work they recently
changed their email
system for Office365. I did manage to setup an imap account in kmail, and
this account works, BUT:
When I get a message there, I get no notification. While all other
accounts get their messages in Inbox, or the relevent directory indicated
there is mail, the imap account shows nothing, so if I don't think to look
I may miss important messages.
what notification? Do you mean the message is not downloaded automatically?
There you have to configure how often to check the mailbox
I had found a workaround by setting up Thunderbird on
a raspberry pi.
Thunderbird autoconfigures for this account (of course at work they did
not give me the informations to connect, as we are supposed to be using
MacOS or Windows with application that don't require these) and I
forwarded the messages to my regular mail account. However Thunderbird is
a nightmare when it comes to changing the password, and the work password
must be changed every month... so for the time being Thunderbird no more
forwards anything.
Why not using the Web Client - firefox with push notifications?
I'll take a look at Evolution for the pi, but it
would actually be easier
if I could just get informed that a mail arrived on the imap account.
Don't - Evolution s**ks
Am I missing some setup, or is it normal that imap
doesn't give any
feedback (I normaly use pop for my accounts).
I've not seen any notifications (used always imap with kmail in kontact),
but recently I was looking at kdbusnotification (notification-daemon-tde)
and wanted to talk to the "gods" about it. This looks like a good small
project to exercise.
12:53 p.m.
On Tuesday 18 May 2021 21.23:46 deloptes wrote:
what notification? Do you mean the message is not
downloaded automatically?
There you have to configure how often to check the mailbox
With my other emails, I get a number indicating new messages. The imap
accounts downloads the messages, but you have to go look in the directory to
see they are there.
Why not using the Web Client - firefox with push
notifications?
I don't have firefox. I don't see how a web client could do anything without
Firefox - and the web client - being running. What use would the push
notification be then, and where would they go? Maybe I don't understand your
suggestion.
Don't - Evolution s**ks
OK. I can look for others...
I've not seen any notifications (used always imap
with kmail in kontact),
but recently I was looking at kdbusnotification (notification-daemon-tde)
and wanted to talk to the "gods" about it. This looks like a good small
project to exercise.
Why does kmail tell you you got new pop mails, but not when you got imap
mails?
Thierry
1:12 p.m.
On Tue May 18 2021 12:53:55 Thierry de Coulon via tde-users wrote:
Why does kmail tell you you got new pop mails, but not
when you got imap
mails?
"New" is a property of the message on the server, not of the message
copied to the client.
This becomes significant when you have multiple clients or services
or even webmail accessing a single server-side mailbox.
Do you have another client or service - GMail is common - accessing
your imap mails and making them "not new"?
--Mike
1:28 p.m.
On Tuesday 18 May 2021 22.12:55 Mike Bird via tde-users wrote:
"New" is a property of the message on the
server, not of the message
copied to the client.
This becomes significant when you have multiple clients or services
or even webmail accessing a single server-side mailbox.
Do you have another client or service - GMail is common - accessing
your imap mails and making them "not new"?
--Mike
Thanks Mike, that may be the reason. No, I don't use gmail to access that
account, but Thunderbird on the pi is accessing these mails. In theory this
is no problem if it forwards them, but if it gets them and does not forward,
they probably loose their "new status".
I'll have to look into it.
Thierry
10:30 p.m.
Thierry de Coulon via tde-users wrote:
Well, I mean a modern web client (konqueror won't do it), which in Linux
context means firefox, chromium or similar.
If you find one - let me know - I honestly gave up. I even do not want to
know of any new messages in Outlook when I am at home or when the business
day is over.
For me the question is how it is telling you - if you mean the number in the
applet icon in the tray - then it could be Mike Bird is correct. As soon as
you mark a message as read on the server it is read ... but I am not sure
how different clients handle this.
With my other emails, I get a number indicating new
messages. The imap
accounts downloads the messages, but you have to go look in the directory
to see they are there.
I also see the number of new messages (attached below)
Why not using
the Web Client - firefox with push notifications?
I don't have firefox. I don't see how a web client could do anything
without Firefox - and the web client - being running. What use would the
push notification be then, and where would they go? Maybe I don't
understand your suggestion.
Don't - Evolution s**ks
OK. I can look for others...
I've not
seen any notifications (used always imap with kmail in kontact),
but recently I was looking at kdbusnotification (notification-daemon-tde)
and wanted to talk to the "gods" about it. This looks like a good small
project to exercise.
Why does kmail tell you you got new pop mails, but not when you got imap
mails? 
19 May
19 May
7:36 a.m.
On Tuesday 18 May 2021 03:28:04 pm Thierry de Coulon via tde-users wrote:
On Tuesday 18 May 2021 22.12:55 Mike Bird via
tde-users wrote:
Hi Thierry,
A workaround...
In KMail set the first filter to mark all incoming messages as 'new.'
KMail > Settings > Configure Filters
- Filter Rules > 'New' (the icon way down on bottom left) > Filter Actions
- - Move it to the top of list
- - Mark As > New
- - Advanced tab
- - - Apply this filter to incoming messages:
- - - - from all accounts
- - - Uncheck everything else
- - - - don't apply to sent messages
- - - - don't apply to manual filtering
- - - - don't stop processing here
add anything else you need...
Best,
Michael
PS: If you have more than ~100+ messages per download batch (depends on
hardware specs) you might get minor 'freezes' in KMail when the filters get
run.
"New" is a property of the message on
the server, not of the message
copied to the client.
Thanks Mike, that may be the reason. No, I don't use gmail to access that
account, but Thunderbird on the pi is accessing these mails. In theory this
is no problem if it forwards them, but if it gets them and does not
forward, they probably loose their "new status".
10:20 a.m.
On Wednesday 19 May 2021 16.36:51 Michael via tde-users wrote:
Hi Thierry,
A workaround...
In KMail set the first filter to mark all incoming messages as 'new.'
KMail > Settings > Configure Filters
- Filter Rules > 'New' (the icon way down on bottom left) > Filter Actions
- - Move it to the top of list
- - Mark As > New
- - Advanced tab
- - - Apply this filter to incoming messages:
- - - - from all accounts
- - - Uncheck everything else
- - - - don't apply to sent messages
- - - - don't apply to manual filtering
- - - - don't stop processing here
add anything else you need...
Best,
Michael
Thank you Michael, I'll do this and see. Sounds very good.
Thierry
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