Hi Thierry, On Thursday 21 January 2016 21:27:14 Thierry de Coulon wrote: I don't care for "kate" either. I am trying to get rid of it ! I originally went into Synaptic and tried to remove it from there, but it wanted to remove most of TDE. So I chickened out and tried to rename every instance that I could find to stop it opening up when ever I selected a text file. I also tried "open with" and "remember application". So I've now been round and deleted every instance that I can find, but it simply replaces the renamed or deleted files. -- Best Regards: Baron

On Thursday 21 January 2016 22.41:53 Baron wrote: Seems we'll need some of the wizards that make TDE. I thought maybe deleting or renaming the program would do - but after deleting /opt/trinity/bin/kate... I can still start kate! I would guess parts of kate are integrated in konqueror (as it seems to be the default editor). So removing kate seems at least very difficult. It is the default embeded editor (and there is no other editor proposed in the list in the ControlCenter. I can associate kedit with *.txt files, but kate remains the default embeded editor. This may explain why it's difficult (impossible?) to remove, but I've never seen it respawning. Thierry

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On 2016/01/22 07:25 AM, Thierry de Coulon wrote: The point is that Kate is not just "one program" but it is a collection of software pieces. There is the default editor which is used in KWrite, Kate and TDevelop, there is the main Kate application and then there is a Kate KPart as well, which is what you see for example embedded in Konqueror. You can delete the main KAte program but the Kate KPart is part of tdelibs and together with the editor it is deeply integrated in TDE. Best way to "not use Kate" is to change the default application for the various file types that are currently associated with Kate. Cheers Michele

On Friday 22 January 2016 13:51:39 Baron wrote: R14.0 has TDEControl, 3.5.13.2 KControl. They are much the same. Not identical. KInfocenter seems to have been merged into TDEControl, having been missing in 3.5.13.2. Well, it is there, but has got nothing in it.

I don't understand your issues with Kate - it has been my friend all the time and never let me down. It supports sessions, code highlighting, file history and many more useful features. If I want to read a simple text file I use Kedit - thus in konqueror kedit is first choice, but for scripting/code reading and making notes I prefer kedit. I write this, so that there is one voice for Kate. Not that someone has the wrong impression of me or Kate. plugins in kate are not mandatory font is easy customizable. In fact I like the Monospace as it has fixed width for each char, so that the position is also fixed. regards

On Friday 22 January 2016 23:53:22 Michael Howard wrote: You are obviously a fan of Alice in Wonderland - it is easy to have more than nothing. ;-) This particular thread is anti-Kate!!! Lisi

On Saturday 23 January 2016 01.00:00 Lisi Reisz wrote: Actually I'm not "anti-kate". I've found it very usefull when coding (typically html or tcl). I never had issues with the fonts and kate allways did it's job very well. The "feature" I dislike is the file list on the left. I've never liked these explorer-like setups (the first thing I do when setting up konqueror is to hide the "navigation panel"). It somehow disturbs me to see all the files that were edited before (I also switch off sessions). There are those who like to shutdown and come back where they were, I belong to those that let the system clean up after them and rejoice in finding a clean desktop at their return (I probably dream of having a household with lots of servants... ) Kate is usefull for special purposes (it does let you create files with unix, windows or macintosh end-of-lines too), but it's too "complicated" for simple editing (for me, kedit is enough) and not enough for real text writing where I use libreoffice. So actually I felt the thread was more about how would it be possible to change the default editor in TDE :) This is the strength of TDE: let it behave as _you_ want instead of learning to behave as the system wants. Have a great day, Thierry

Hi Guys, On Saturday 23 January 2016 08:12:24 Thierry de Coulon wrote: Yes this is what I needed. I now think that I just went about doing this the wrong way ! Deleting stuff was my naive attempt at doing something by my self. In the end I learnt some things. There is a bunch of good people on the "Trinity" lists. Thank you for your help -- Best Regards: Baron

On Saturday 23 January 2016 21.46:59 Dave Lers wrote: You are right - I had missed that setting! It's corrected. Thanks!

On Saturday 23 January 2016 00:00:00 Lisi Reisz wrote: I seem to have been somewhat misunderstood. Sorry. I shouldn't try to make a jokes on an international list. If people didn't understand the reference to Alice in Wonderland, which was the point, I'll leave it there rather than make it worse. I have already caused problems by my attempt to explain it. The joke was the mad-hatters tea party. I wasn't casting aspersions on Kate. Lisi

On Saturday 23 January 2016 11.26:21 Lisi Reisz wrote: I must admit it's a long time since I read Alice in Wonderland and then as a matter of fact not in English. I'll take a look - thank you Lisi for pointing to it :) Thierry

Am Sonntag, 24. Januar 2016 schrieb deloptes: Oh, having just a hammer simplifies live ... every probem starts to look like a nail when you look closer (and stare long enough) :-) Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA.