4 Sep
2014
4 Sep
'14
9:40 a.m.
Hi !
I'm running trinity desktop on Debian Jessie. As I tried to install
k9copy program, apt-get complained about dependency on "mencoder"
The package "mencoder" doesn't seem to be available in jessie.
Any idea how to solve it?
Here is my /etc/apt/sources.list.d/trinity.list file
----8<----
deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-nightly-builds/d…
jessie main
deb
http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-nightly-build-de…
jessie main
----8<----
Here is the output of apt-get install command:
----8<----
root@tuoni:~# apt-get install k9copy-trinity
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
k9copy-trinity : Depends: mencoder but it is not installable
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
----8<----
Cheers,
Ilya Dogolazky
4 Sep
4 Sep
12:56 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] can't install k9copy-trinity from nightly build repository
On Thursday 04 September 2014 01:40:14 am you wrote:
Hi !
I'm running trinity desktop on Debian Jessie. As I tried to install
k9copy program, apt-get complained about dependency on "mencoder"
The package "mencoder" doesn't seem to be available in jessie.
Any idea how to solve it?
Here is my /etc/apt/sources.list.d/trinity.list file
----8<----
deb
http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-nightly-bu
ilds/debian jessie main
deb
http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-nightly-bu
ild-dependencies/debian jessie main
----8<----
Here is the output of apt-get install command:
----8<----
root@tuoni:~# apt-get install k9copy-trinity
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
k9copy-trinity : Depends: mencoder but it is not installable
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
----8<----
Cheers,
Ilya Dogolazky
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Looks like it is removed from Debian, The depends will have to be
removed from k9copy-trinity
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=732159
--
Peace,
Greg
3:45 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] can't install k9copy-trinity from nightly build repository
On Thursday 04 of September 2014 14:56:30 Greg Madden wrote:
On Thursday 04 September 2014 01:40:14 am you wrote:
The question is whether k9copy without MEncoder is useful? We could move
mencoder to Recommends or set variant dependency "mencoder | libav-tools".
But the question is whether it will be useful without rewrite k9copy to able
use avconv instead of mencoder?
--
Slávek
Hi !
I'm running trinity desktop on Debian Jessie. As I tried to install
k9copy program, apt-get complained about dependency on "mencoder"
The package "mencoder" doesn't seem to be available in jessie.
Any idea how to solve it?
Here is my /etc/apt/sources.list.d/trinity.list file
----8<----
deb
http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-nightly-bu
ilds/debian jessie main
deb
http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-nightly-bu
ild-dependencies/debian jessie main
----8<----
Here is the output of apt-get install command:
----8<----
root@tuoni:~# apt-get install k9copy-trinity
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
k9copy-trinity : Depends: mencoder but it is not installable
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
----8<----
Cheers,
Ilya Dogolazky
Looks like it is removed from Debian, The depends will have to be
removed from k9copy-trinity
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=732159 
6 Sep
6 Sep
12:09 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] can't install k9copy-trinity from nightly build repository
The question is whether k9copy without MEncoder is
useful? We could move
mencoder to Recommends or set variant dependency "mencoder | libav-tools".
But the question is whether it will be useful without rewrite k9copy to able
use avconv instead of mencoder?
Basically mencoder is no longer supported in Debian, but it seems it is still available
under Ubuntu (at least until Trusty).
I think an easy solution is to add mencoder to the list of dependency packages that we
maintain and leave everything else as is at the moment.
Cheers
Michele
12:25 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] can't install k9copy-trinity from nightly build repository
On Saturday 06 of September 2014 14:09:23 Michele Calgaro wrote:
Mencoder is part of mplayer1. I'm not sure that we want to maintain mplayer1.
Therefore, it seems to me to be more appropriate to replace mencoder by
libav-tools (avconv). For now I have not examined how difficult task it is.
--
Slavek
The question
is whether k9copy without MEncoder is useful? We could move
mencoder to Recommends or set variant dependency "mencoder |
libav-tools". But the question is whether it will be useful without
rewrite k9copy to able use avconv instead of mencoder?
Basically mencoder is no longer supported in Debian, but it seems it is
still available under Ubuntu (at least until Trusty). I think an easy
solution is to add mencoder to the list of dependency packages that we
maintain and leave everything else as is at the moment. Cheers
Michele
12:38 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] can't install k9copy-trinity from nightly build repository
Mencoder is part of mplayer1. I'm not sure that we
want to maintain mplayer1.
Therefore, it seems to me to be more appropriate to replace mencoder by
libav-tools (avconv). For now I have not examined how difficult task it is.
Ok Slavek, now I get what you mean. It makes sense to do the switch if possible (I also
have no clue how long it would require).
As a temporary solution until we complete such task we can still consider adding mencoder
to the dependency package list, as we did with libotr2. What do you think?
Cheers
Michele
1:34 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] can't install k9copy-trinity from nightly build repository
On Saturday 06 of September 2014 14:38:35 Michele Calgaro wrote:
There is one difference from libotr2. For kopete-otr is dependence libotr2
required for build. While mencoder is required for k9copy "only" for some
activities at runtime.
As I watched on the deb-multimedia is old mplayer including mencoder still
available for Jessie. Thus, users can simply add this apt source that is
maintained.
What do you think?
Note: While I was not looking, what is the state with Ubuntu 14.10 (Utopic).
--
Slavek
Mencoder is
part of mplayer1. I'm not sure that we want to maintain
mplayer1. Therefore, it seems to me to be more appropriate to replace
mencoder by libav-tools (avconv). For now I have not examined how
difficult task it is.
Ok Slavek, now I get what you mean. It makes sense to do the switch if
possible (I also have no clue how long it would require). As a temporary
solution until we complete such task we can still consider adding mencoder
to the dependency package list, as we did with libotr2. What do you think?
Cheers
Michele
11:42 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] can't install k9copy-trinity from nightly build repository
On Saturday 06 September 2014 05:34:27 am you wrote:
On Saturday 06 of September 2014 14:38:35 Michele
Calgaro wrote:
There is one difference from libotr2. For kopete-otr is dependence
libotr2 required for build. While mencoder is required for k9copy
"only" for some activities at runtime.
As I watched on the deb-multimedia is old mplayer including mencoder
still available for Jessie. Thus, users can simply add this apt
source that is maintained.
What do you think?
Note: While I was not looking, what is the state with Ubuntu 14.10
(Utopic).
deb-multiedia is not really compatable with Debian, It was/is needed for
libdvdcss2 . I don't think its the solution for Jessie.
----
Peace,
Greg
Mencoder
is part of mplayer1. I'm not sure that we want to
maintain mplayer1. Therefore, it seems to me to be more
appropriate to replace mencoder by libav-tools (avconv). For now
I have not examined how difficult task it is.
Ok Slavek, now I get what you mean. It makes sense to do the switch
if possible (I also have no clue how long it would require). As a
temporary solution until we complete such task we can still
consider adding mencoder to the dependency package list, as we did
with libotr2. What do you think?
Cheers
Michele
7 Sep
7 Sep
12:02 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] can't install k9copy-trinity from nightly build repository
On Sunday 07 of September 2014 01:42:19 Greg Madden wrote:
On Saturday 06 September 2014 05:34:27 am you wrote:
I normally use it on many workstations - currently on Squeeze and Wheezy.
Workstation with Jessie I do not have one yet. The problems I observed
rarely.
--
Slavek
On Saturday 06 of September 2014 14:38:35 Michele
Calgaro wrote:
There is one difference from libotr2. For kopete-otr is dependence
libotr2 required for build. While mencoder is required for k9copy
"only" for some activities at runtime.
As I watched on the deb-multimedia is old mplayer including mencoder
still available for Jessie. Thus, users can simply add this apt
source that is maintained.
What do you think?
Note: While I was not looking, what is the state with Ubuntu 14.10
(Utopic).
deb-multiedia is not really compatable with Debian, It was/is needed for
libdvdcss2 . I don't think its the solution for Jessie.
----
Peace,
Greg
Mencoder
is part of mplayer1. I'm not sure that we want to
maintain mplayer1. Therefore, it seems to me to be more
appropriate to replace mencoder by libav-tools (avconv). For now
I have not examined how difficult task it is.
Ok Slavek, now I get what you mean. It makes sense to do the switch
if possible (I also have no clue how long it would require). As a
temporary solution until we complete such task we can still
consider adding mencoder to the dependency package list, as we did
with libotr2. What do you think?
Cheers
Michele 
12:21 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] can't install k9copy-trinity from nightly build repository
Deb multimedia is very compatible with Debian, Infact Christian is Debian
Developer. The issue is his packages have, in the past, caused a conflict
situation with official Debian packages. Last year he was asked to stop
using the name Debian in his repository. Since he changed his domain name I
haven't seen a package from Deb-multimedia that has caused any problems
with any official Debian packages. Having said that Debian did make his
repository obsolete, for many users, with their change of policy on
licences. Since then the only package I use now is libdvdcss2
On 7 September 2014 10:02, Slávek Banko <slavek.banko(a)axis.cz> wrote:
On Sunday 07 of September 2014 01:42:19 Greg Madden
wrote:
On Saturday 06 September 2014 05:34:27 am you
wrote:
I normally use it on many workstations - currently on Squeeze and Wheezy.
Workstation with Jessie I do not have one yet. The problems I observed
rarely.
--
Slavek
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On Saturday 06 of September 2014 14:38:35 Michele
Calgaro wrote:
deb-multiedia is not really compatable with Debian, It was/is needed for
libdvdcss2 . I don't think its the solution for Jessie.
----
Peace,
Greg
> Mencoder is part of mplayer1. I'm not
sure that we want to
> maintain mplayer1. Therefore, it seems to me to be more
> appropriate to replace mencoder by libav-tools (avconv). For now
> I have not examined how difficult task it is.
Ok Slavek, now I get what you mean. It makes sense to do the switch
if possible (I also have no clue how long it would require). As a
temporary solution until we complete such task we can still
consider adding mencoder to the dependency package list, as we did
with libotr2. What do you think?
Cheers
Michele
There is one difference from libotr2. For kopete-otr is dependence
libotr2 required for build. While mencoder is required for k9copy
"only" for some activities at runtime.
As I watched on the deb-multimedia is old mplayer including mencoder
still available for Jessie. Thus, users can simply add this apt
source that is maintained.
What do you think?
Note: While I was not looking, what is the state with Ubuntu 14.10
(Utopic).
12:57 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] can't install k9copy-trinity from nightly build repository
On Saturday 06 September 2014 04:02:35 pm you wrote:
On Sunday 07 of September 2014 01:42:19 Greg Madden
wrote:
I lack concrete examples of conflicts at this time, it beens to long
since I made the deision to stop using deb-multimedia, I could
entertain the idea it is different now.
How do users of Jessie+ TDE learn about adding deb-multimedia to
sources.list?
Maintaining multiple addition sources is not desirable, Debian only
nables 'main' in a default install.
Can TDE provide mencoder-trinity in is repo?
--
Peace,
Greg
On Saturday 06 September 2014 05:34:27 am you
wrote:
I normally use it on many workstations - currently on Squeeze and
Wheezy. Workstation with Jessie I do not have one yet. The problems I
observed rarely. On Saturday 06 of September 2014 14:38:35 Michele
Calgaro wrote:
deb-multiedia is not really compatable with Debian, It was/is
needed for libdvdcss2 . I don't think its the solution for Jessie.
----
Peace,
Greg > Mencoder is part of mplayer1. I'm not
sure that we want to
> maintain mplayer1. Therefore, it seems to me to be more
> appropriate to replace mencoder by libav-tools (avconv). For
> now I have not examined how difficult task it is.
Ok Slavek, now I get what you mean. It makes sense to do the
switch if possible (I also have no clue how long it would
require). As a temporary solution until we complete such task
we can still consider adding mencoder to the dependency package
list, as we did with libotr2. What do you think?
Cheers
Michele
There is one difference from libotr2. For kopete-otr is
dependence libotr2 required for build. While mencoder is required
for k9copy "only" for some activities at runtime.
As I watched on the deb-multimedia is old mplayer including
mencoder still available for Jessie. Thus, users can simply add
this apt source that is maintained.
What do you think?
Note: While I was not looking, what is the state with Ubuntu
14.10 (Utopic).
7:06 a.m.
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Note: While I was not looking, what is the state with
Ubuntu 14.10 (Utopic).
I searched around a while and it seems that mencoder was dropped in Utopic as well.
Not sure if the mencoder package from deb-multimedia would install in Ubuntu, since some
dependency may not be satisfy.
If it installs ok, we can probably stick with the package from deb-multimedia for the time
being. If not, we probably need to add mencoder to the depencency package list. Could you
do a test on an Utopic installation?
Cheers
Michele
1:01 p.m.
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On Sunday 07 of September 2014 09:06:17 Michele Calgaro wrote:
Tested, can not be used jessie source for utopic. So ok, on the basis of the
package deb-multimedia package I prepare packages for jessie and utopic for
Trinity build-deps.
--
Slavek
Note: While I
was not looking, what is the state with Ubuntu 14.10
(Utopic).
I searched around a while and it seems that mencoder was dropped in Utopic
as well. Not sure if the mencoder package from deb-multimedia would install
in Ubuntu, since some dependency may not be satisfy. If it installs ok, we
can probably stick with the package from deb-multimedia for the time being.
If not, we probably need to add mencoder to the depencency package list.
Could you do a test on an Utopic installation?
Cheers
Michele
1:35 p.m.
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Tested, can not be used jessie source for utopic. So
ok, on the basis of the
package deb-multimedia package I prepare packages for jessie and utopic for
Trinity build-deps.
Ok. If we call the package mencoder as the original one (without the -trinity extension),
then we do not need to do any change in k9copy control file. Jessie and Utopic users will
use our package, while older distros can install either the original mencoder or our
version (if we choose to build it for all distros as well).
Thanks for testing.
Cheers
Michele
2:32 p.m.
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On Sunday 07 of September 2014 15:35:52 Michele Calgaro wrote:
Yes, this is exactly my intention. In addition, I want to set jessie version
so that the package will be considered older than versions from
deb-multimedia.
I have limited dependencies in mplayer-dmo to the versions contained in the
distributions, so it was not necessary to include additional packages from
deb-multimedia into Trinity apt source.
--
Slavek
Tested, can
not be used jessie source for utopic. So ok, on the basis of
the package deb-multimedia package I prepare packages for jessie and
utopic for Trinity build-deps.
Ok. If we call the package mencoder as the original one (without the
-trinity extension), then we do not need to do any change in k9copy control
file. Jessie and Utopic users will use our package, while older distros can
install either the original mencoder or our version (if we choose to build
it for all distros as well). Thanks for testing.
Cheers
Michele
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