Hi again ! After I copied my .kde directory to .trinity, my old KDE3 settings are back. But some issues remain. here is the list of issues I've seen so far (any help is very welcome!) in none particular order. The most important items below are: 2, 6.2, 6.3, 8, 11 and of course 1 ;) 1. I got a message "KFish applet can't be installed on the panel", and no fish is visible :-( 2. The 'konsole' application (KDE's xterm replacement) can't be started: ilya@kalma:~$ which konsole /opt/trinity/bin/konsole ilya@kalma:~$ konsole konsole: symbol lookup error: /opt/trinity/lib/libkdeui.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN7QObject18childrenListObjectEv 3. I have two panels, one for buttons, keyes, kfish and menus; and the second one for tasks. This second one was configured in KDE to be two items high, but now its height is just one item ("item" in my definition is a rectangle representing a single task). Fixed it manually by setting "Size" from "Default" to "Custom 52 pixels" 4. There are some KDE4 artifacts: 4.1 A PSI program successfully attached to the panel, but the drop down menus look like those in KDE4 and the UI of the psi program itself looks like KDE4. I would like to know if it's the expected behavior. Basicaly I have nothing against it (ok, it's ugly, but I can live with it), but it's better to know for sure. 4.2 An application called "Nepomuk Strigi File Indexing" (which I never seen before) is started, attached to the panel and doing some massive input/output. The UI looks like KDE4. I would like to know how to get rid of it. 5. Background pictures disappeared, only one of six is visible (I'm afraid they were original KDE3 pictures and just gone during the system update) 6. Massive screen saver issues: 6.1 My previously used screen saver (displaying failure messages from different operation systems) disappeared. 6.2 In the unlock dialog there is no keyboard layout button. This is a really critical issue: once locked with Russian layout I can't switch to a Latin one, thus I can't enter the password and unlock 6.3 When screen saver is starting only one physical display (out of two) is cleaned, so everyone can read information on the secondary display (which is in kinda "read-only" mode, so no use input possible). This is a pretty heavy issue as well. 7. Trinity KDM is not working (probably crashing, but I've not investigated much), and "trinity" is not appearing in the default KDM window manager selection list. So I've stopped display manager, created a simple .xinitrc script ("exec /opt/trinity/bin/startkde 2>trinity.stderr >trinity.stdout") and now starting trinity with "startx" command. 8. The output of .xinitrc contains couple of "symbol lookup error:" lines: 8.1 for /opt/trinity/bin/kdeinit: symbol lookup error: /opt/trinity/lib/libDCOP.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN7QObject21objectTreesListObjectEv 8.2 konsole: symbol lookup error: /opt/trinity/lib/libkdeui.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN7QObject18childrenListObjectEv (see issue 2 above). 8.3 See item 11 below. 9. Very annoying issue, but I've seen it in KDE3 already: while moving a window inside of secondary physical monitor, it's not possible to move it to the upper area: window manager only allows to keep it *below* the panel (but the panel is occupying only the primary monitor, thus the piece of the secondary monitor is not used by application windows. There is a work around: maximize window in question, then it's taking the whole secondary monitor. 10. Fuzzy clock in the bottom panel doesn't use the font it was using in KDE. I tried to fix it, something very bad happened, see item 11. By the way: how can I restore the panels without logging off and on again? 11. After right-clicking on the clock in the bottom panel and selecting "configure clock" BOTH panels (top and bottom) disappeared. The last suspicious message in trinity.stderr is: kicker [kdeinit]: symbol lookup error: /opt/trinity/lib/libkdeui.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN7QObject18childrenListObjectEv Cheers, Ilya Dogolazky --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net Read list messsages on the Web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting