6 Feb
2021
6 Feb
'21
12:48 p.m.
This is my favourite PDF-viewer and as such I have in my mimeinfo.cache
the entry "application/pdf=kpdf.desktop". Works perfect....until I
update libreoffice-draw or google-chrome. At that moment the kpdf-entry
gets erased and instead of it 'draw' or 'chrome' appears or even both.
And I have to correct this entry manually again and again.
Is there a possibility to add in the installscript of kpdf the same
mechanism as in chrome and draw - a delete/replace statement?
Regards, Peter.
6 Feb
6 Feb
1:31 p.m.
Anno domini 2021 Sat, 6 Feb 13:48:52 +0100
phiebie(a)drei.at scripsit:
This is my favourite PDF-viewer and as such I have in
my mimeinfo.cache
the entry "application/pdf=kpdf.desktop". Works perfect....until I
update libreoffice-draw or google-chrome. At that moment the kpdf-entry
gets erased and instead of it 'draw' or 'chrome' appears or even both.
And I have to correct this entry manually again and again.
Is there a possibility to add in the installscript of kpdf the same
mechanism as in chrome and draw - a delete/replace statement?
Regards, Peter.
You can add a oneliner to your .xinitrc or .xsessionrc, e.g:
sed "s#\(application/pdf=\).*$#\1kpdf.desktop#' -i
.local/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache
Nik
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4:54 p.m.
Anno domini 2021 Sat, 6 Feb 17:45:02 +0100
phiebie(a)drei.at scripsit:
Hi Dr. Nikolaus Klepp,
Am 06.Feb.2021 um 14:31 schrieben Sie:
Oh my, copy & paste :)
sed 's#\(application/pdf=\).*$#\1kpdf.desktop#' -i \
~/.local/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache
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sed "s#\(application/pdf=\).*$#\1kpdf.desktop#' -i
.local/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache"
sed: -e expression #1, char 85: unterminated `s' command
1:43 p.m.
Am Samstag, 6. Februar 2021 schrieb phiebie(a)drei.at:
This is my favourite PDF-viewer and as such I have in
my
mimeinfo.cache the entry "application/pdf=kpdf.desktop".
Where is this file located on your system that you edit manually?
On my system (Devuan Beowulf) it is in
/usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache
~/.local/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache
$ grep pdf /usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache
application/pdf=atril.desktop;libreoffice-draw.desktop;
application/x-bzpdf=atril.desktop;
application/x-gzpdf=atril.desktop;
application/x-xzpdf=atril.desktop;
image/pdf=display-im6.q16.desktop;
$ grep pdf ~/.local/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache
[no output]
BTW, most of the time kpdf opens all PDF-files on my system, though, for
Midnight Commander I had to configure that manually. That means there
has to be another config layer in TDE to make that happen, because my
system obviously is configured to use "atril" by default.
Works
perfect....until I update libreoffice-draw or google-chrome. At that
moment the kpdf-entry gets erased and instead of it 'draw' or
'chrome' appears or even both. And I have to correct this entry
manually again and again.
If the line "application/pdf=kpdf.desktop" is in mimeinfo.cache under
$HOME it should override the entry in the systemwide mimeinfo.cache and
not be changed by installation nor upgrade of packages, no?!
Is there a possibility to add in the installscript of
kpdf the same
mechanism as in chrome and draw - a delete/replace statement?
What would be achieved by that? You'd have to reinstall or
dpkg-reconfigure kpdf every time after libreoffice-draw or
google-chrome got upgraded on your system.
HTH
Kind regards,
Stefan
4:40 p.m.
Hi Stefan,
Am 06.Feb.2021 um 14:43 schriebst Du:
No. See your entry above. Atril has somewhere somehow a mechanism, that
withstands the attack of libreoffice to get deleted! And that same
mechanism would be very welcome in kpdf.
Regards, Peter.
Where is this file located on your system that you edit manually?
(Debian testing, TDE PSB, both up to date)
/usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache
$ grep pdf /usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache
application/pdf=atril.desktop;libreoffice-draw.desktop;
there has to be another config layer in TDE to make that happen,
because my system obviously is configured to use "atril" by default.
Very interesting. No entry in the cache but kpdf comes out of the dark.
If the line "application/pdf=kpdf.desktop" is in mimeinfo.cache under
$HOME it should override the entry in the systemwide mimeinfo.cache
I'll give that a try.
Is there a possibility to add in the
installscript of kpdf the same
mechanism as in chrome and draw - a delete/replace statement?
What would be achieved by that? You'd have to reinstall or
dpkg-reconfigure kpdf
7 Feb
7 Feb
11:11 a.m.
Hallo Peter,
Am Samstag, 6. Februar 2021 schrieb phiebie(a)drei.at:
It's "should" like: "I think it should", concluded from the UNIX
principle that configs in $HOME override configs in /etc/*. I haven't
tested that.
No. See your entry above. Atril has somewhere somehow a mechanism,
that withstands the attack of libreoffice to get deleted! And that
same mechanism would be very welcome in kpdf.
ACK. The pre- and post-install scripts need to be investigated…
Cheers,
Stefan
Am 06.Feb.2021 um 14:43 schriebst Du:
This works from inside kmail, krusader, konqueror and probably all TDE
apps. It is configured in TDE Control Center -> TDE Components -> File
Associations …
there has to be another config layer in TDE to
make that happen,
because my system obviously is configured to use "atril" by
default.
Very interesting. No entry in the cache but kpdf comes out of the
dark. If the line
"application/pdf=kpdf.desktop" is in mimeinfo.cache
under $HOME it should override the entry in the systemwide
mimeinfo.cache
I'll give that a try. Is there a possibility to add in the installscript of
kpdf the
same mechanism as in chrome and draw - a delete/replace
statement?
What would be achieved by that? You'd have to reinstall or
dpkg-reconfigure kpdf
11 Mar
11 Mar
1:46 p.m.
Hi Stefan,
Am 07.Feb.2021 um 12:11 schriebst Du:
It's "should" like: "I think it should", concluded from the UNIX
principle that configs in $HOME override configs in /etc/*. I haven't
tested that.
Indeed, it overrides the general settings. Tks for the hint.
And also tks to Dr. Klepp for his solution to ensure, that this file
stays pristine.
It took so long time to answer, because there wasn't an update of
libreoffice available earlier.
Kind regards,
Peter.
3:06 p.m.
Hi!
Anno domini 2021 Thu, 11 Mar 14:46:45 +0100
phiebie(a)drei.at scripsit:
Hi Stefan,
Am 07.Feb.2021 um 12:11 schriebst Du:
What version of libreoffice do you use now? I had 7.1 from the repos, but that was not
able to produce valid PDF nor print correctly. Now I have the appimage with 7.2, which
works.
Nik
It's "should" like: "I think it should", concluded from the UNIX
principle that configs in $HOME override configs in /etc/*. I haven't
tested that.
Indeed, it overrides the general settings. Tks for the hint.
And also tks to Dr. Klepp for his solution to ensure, that this file
stays pristine.
It took so long time to answer, because there wasn't an update of
libreoffice available earlier.
Kind regards,
Peter.
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5:51 p.m.
Hi Nik,
Am 11.Mar.2021 um 16:06 schriebst Du:
What version of libreoffice do you use now? I had 7.1 from the repos,
but that was not able to produce valid PDF nor print correctly. Now I
have the appimage with 7.2, which works.
I always download LO from the official website. That Debian-tinkering
with programs to fulfill their strict "free source" annoyed me already
years and yers ago. My version is 7.1.1.2/Libreoffice Community.
Saving a writer-document to PDF worked flawlesssly (opened with kpdf),
original odt-size increased from 19.281 to 27.351 PDF-Bytes however.
Sorry, no time right now to actually print, but the print-preview
leaves nothing to doubt on actual printing.
Kind regards,
Peter.
3:24 p.m.
Am Donnerstag, 11. März 2021 schrieb phiebie(a)drei.at:
Hi Stefan,
Am 07.Feb.2021 um 12:11 schriebst Du:
Good! You're welcome.
Cheers,
Stefan
It's "should" like: "I think
it should", concluded from the UNIX
principle that configs in $HOME override configs in /etc/*. I
haven't tested that.
Indeed, it overrides the general settings. Tks for the hint.
And also tks to Dr. Klepp for his solution to ensure, that this file
stays pristine.
It took so long time to answer, because there wasn't an update of
libreoffice available earlier. 
6 Feb
6 Feb
2:32 p.m.
On Sat, 6 Feb 2021, Peter, phiebie(a)drei.at wrote:
This is my favourite PDF-viewer and as such I have in
my mimeinfo.cache
the entry "application/pdf=kpdf.desktop". Works perfect....until I
update libreoffice-draw or google-chrome. At that moment the kpdf-entry
gets erased and instead of it 'draw' or 'chrome' appears or even both.
And I have to correct this entry manually again and again.
Is there a possibility to add in the installscript of kpdf the same
mechanism as in chrome and draw - a delete/replace statement?
One hack is to make that config file Read-Only.
It's the sort of hack I use from time-to-time.
Your choice, of course.
HTH,
Jonesy
8:11 p.m.
New subject: [users] Kpdf
On 2021-02-06 08:32:38 Marvin Jones via tde-users wrote:
On Sat, 6 Feb 2021, Peter, phiebie(a)drei.at wrote:
Even better, make it immutable.
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This is my favourite PDF-viewer and as such I have
in my mimeinfo.cache
the entry "application/pdf=kpdf.desktop". Works perfect....until I
update libreoffice-draw or google-chrome. At that moment the kpdf-entry
gets erased and instead of it 'draw' or 'chrome' appears or even both.
And I have to correct this entry manually again and again.
Is there a possibility to add in the installscript of kpdf the same
mechanism as in chrome and draw - a delete/replace statement?
One hack is to make that config file Read-Only.
It's the sort of hack I use from time-to-time.
Your choice, of course.
HTH,
Jonesy 
11:08 p.m.
New subject: [users] Kpdf
On Sat, Feb 06, 2021 at 02:11:05PM -0600, J Leslie Turriff wrote:
What is the difference between immutable and read-only, and how do you
make a file immutable?
I know how to make a file read-only: `chmod a-w file`.
What does immutability give us that removing write permission doesn't?
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On 2021-02-06 08:32:38 Marvin Jones via tde-users
wrote:
One hack is to
make that config file Read-Only.
It's the sort of hack I use from time-to-time.
Your choice, of course.
HTH,
Jonesy
Even better, make it immutable.
7 Feb
7 Feb
10:10 a.m.
New subject: [users] [users] Kpdf
On 2021-02-06 17:08:29 Steven D'Aprano via tde-users wrote:
On Sat, Feb 06, 2021 at 02:11:05PM -0600, J Leslie
Turriff wrote:
From info chattr:
| A file with the 'i' attribute cannot be modified: it cannot be deleted or
renamed,
| no link can be created to this file and no data can be written to the file.
| Only the superuser or a process possessing the CAP_LINUX_IMMUTABLE capability
can
| set or clear this attribute.
Leslie
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On 2021-02-06 08:32:38 Marvin Jones via tde-users
wrote:
What is the difference between immutable and read-only, and how do you
make a file immutable?
I know how to make a file read-only: `chmod a-w file`.
What does immutability give us that removing write permission doesn't? One hack is to make that config file Read-Only.
It's the sort of hack I use from time-to-time.
Your choice, of course.
HTH,
Jonesy
Even better, make it immutable.
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