10 Sep
2019
10 Sep
'19
9:30 a.m.
Hi Guys,
Running Q4OS, i7 10Gb ram, HP8300 machine.
For some reason when I do "http://me@localhost:630/admin" it can take
up to 30 minutes before "CUPS 1.7.5 comes up.
The message "localhost contacted, waiting for reply" is shown and a
spinner icon.
Even when it does it can take a similar time to open a page.
Than clicking on "Manage Printers" when it does come up says "Printer
Error" "Unable to get printer list" But my printer is shown on the
Administration page.
I can't print anything any more !
Help please. The Q4OS forum where I was pointed to have not helped at
all.
Thanks in advance everyone.
--
Best Regards:
Baron
10 Sep
10 Sep
9:44 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Localhost problem !
Anno domini 2019 Tue, 10 Sep 10:30:29 +0100
Baron scripsit:
Hi Guys,
Running Q4OS, i7 10Gb ram, HP8300 machine.
For some reason when I do "http://me@localhost:630/admin" it can take
up to 30 minutes before "CUPS 1.7.5 comes up.
The message "localhost contacted, waiting for reply" is shown and a
spinner icon.
Even when it does it can take a similar time to open a page.
Than clicking on "Manage Printers" when it does come up says "Printer
Error" "Unable to get printer list" But my printer is shown on the
Administration page.
I can't print anything any more !
Help please. The Q4OS forum where I was pointed to have not helped at
all.
Thanks in advance everyone.
What's in your /etc/hosts and /etc/resolv.conf ?
Nik
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9:51 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Localhost problem !
Hi Nik,
On Tuesday 10 September 2019 10:44:59 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Anno domini 2019 Tue, 10 Sep 10:30:29 +0100
Baron scripsit:
Attached:
hosts
resolve.conf.
--
Best Regards:
Baron
Hi Guys,
Running Q4OS, i7 10Gb ram, HP8300 machine.
For some reason when I do "http://me@localhost:630/admin" it can
take up to 30 minutes before "CUPS 1.7.5 comes up.
The message "localhost contacted, waiting for reply" is shown
and a spinner icon.
Even when it does it can take a similar time to open a page.
Than clicking on "Manage Printers" when it does come up says
"Printer Error" "Unable to get printer list" But my printer is
shown on the Administration page.
I can't print anything any more !
Help please. The Q4OS forum where I was pointed to have not
helped at all.
Thanks in advance everyone.
What's in your /etc/hosts and /etc/resolv.conf ?
Nik
5:01 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Localhost problem !
Hi Nik,
Did you get chance to look at the two files that I attached ?
Reattached.
Thanks.
On Tuesday 10 September 2019 10:51:55 Baron wrote:
Hi Nik,
On Tuesday 10 September 2019 10:44:59 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Attached:
hosts
resolve.conf.
--
Best Regards:
Baron
Anno domini 2019 Tue, 10 Sep 10:30:29 +0100
Baron scripsit:
Hi Guys,
Running Q4OS, i7 10Gb ram, HP8300 machine.
For some reason when I do "http://me@localhost:630/admin" it
can take up to 30 minutes before "CUPS 1.7.5 comes up.
The message "localhost contacted, waiting for reply" is shown
and a spinner icon.
Even when it does it can take a similar time to open a page.
Than clicking on "Manage Printers" when it does come up says
"Printer Error" "Unable to get printer list" But my printer
is shown on the Administration page.
I can't print anything any more !
Help please. The Q4OS forum where I was pointed to have not
helped at all.
Thanks in advance everyone.
What's in your /etc/hosts and /etc/resolv.conf ?
Nik
6:03 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Localhost problem !
Hi!
Yes, they look perfectly fine. I do not know Q4OS, so this is just what I would do:
- is cups up an running before you open the browser and open the link to cups?
- if it's up and running, does it listen on port 631?
- what does top say to the cups process?
- look at the network traffic with tcpdump or wireshark
Nik
Anno domini 2019 Tue, 10 Sep 18:01:58 +0100
Baron scripsit:
Hi Nik,
Did you get chance to look at the two files that I attached ?
Reattached.
Thanks.
On Tuesday 10 September 2019 10:51:55 Baron wrote:
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Hi Nik,
On Tuesday 10 September 2019 10:44:59 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Attached:
hosts
resolve.conf.
Anno domini 2019 Tue, 10 Sep 10:30:29 +0100
Baron scripsit:
Hi Guys,
Running Q4OS, i7 10Gb ram, HP8300 machine.
For some reason when I do "http://me@localhost:630/admin" it
can take up to 30 minutes before "CUPS 1.7.5 comes up.
The message "localhost contacted, waiting for reply" is shown
and a spinner icon.
Even when it does it can take a similar time to open a page.
Than clicking on "Manage Printers" when it does come up says
"Printer Error" "Unable to get printer list" But my printer
is shown on the Administration page.
I can't print anything any more !
Help please. The Q4OS forum where I was pointed to have not
helped at all.
Thanks in advance everyone.
What's in your /etc/hosts and /etc/resolv.conf ?
Nik
6:45 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Localhost problem !
Thanks Nik.
On Tuesday 10 September 2019 19:03:52 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Hi!
Yes, they look perfectly fine. I do not know Q4OS, so this is just
what I would do:
- is cups up an running before you open the browser and open the
link to cups? - if it's up and running, does it listen on port 631?
- what does top say to the cups process?
- look at the network traffic with tcpdump or wireshark
Nik
Anno domini 2019 Tue, 10 Sep 18:01:58 +0100
Baron scripsit:
> Hi Nik,
>
> Did you get chance to look at the two files that I attached ?
>
> Reattached.
>
> Thanks.
>
> On Tuesday 10 September 2019 10:51:55 Baron wrote:
> > Hi Nik,
> >
> > On Tuesday 10 September 2019 10:44:59 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> > > Anno domini 2019 Tue, 10 Sep 10:30:29 +0100
> > >
> > > Baron scripsit:
> > > > Hi Guys,
> > > >
> > > > Running Q4OS, i7 10Gb ram, HP8300 machine.
> > > >
> > > > For some reason when I do "http://me@localhost:631/admin"
> > > > it can take up to 30 minutes before "CUPS 1.7.5 comes up.
> > > > The message "localhost contacted, waiting for reply" is
> > > > shown and a spinner icon.
> > > >
> > > > Even when it does it can take a similar time to open a
> > > > page.
> > > >
> > > > Than clicking on "Manage Printers" when it does come up
> > > > says "Printer Error" "Unable to get printer
list" But my
> > > > printer is shown on the Administration page.
> > > >
> > > > I can't print anything any more !
> > > >
> > > > Help please. The Q4OS forum where I was pointed to have
> > > > not helped at all.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance everyone.
> > >
> > > What's in your /etc/hosts and /etc/resolv.conf ?
> > >
> > > Nik
>
> Attached:
> hosts
> resolve.conf.
--
Best Regards:
Baron
6:34 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Localhost problem !
On Tuesday 10 of September 2019 19:01:58 Baron wrote:
Hi Nik,
Did you get chance to look at the two files that I attached ?
Reattached.
Thanks.
On Tuesday 10 September 2019 10:51:55 Baron wrote:
Baron,
try adding a "full" form (fqdn) in the hosts file next to the short name
castlelinux - for example castlelinux.home
Cheers
--
Slávek
Hi Nik,
On Tuesday 10 September 2019 10:44:59 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> Anno domini 2019 Tue, 10 Sep 10:30:29 +0100
>
> Baron scripsit:
> > Hi Guys,
> >
> > Running Q4OS, i7 10Gb ram, HP8300 machine.
> >
> > For some reason when I do "http://me@localhost:630/admin" it
> > can take up to 30 minutes before "CUPS 1.7.5 comes up.
> > The message "localhost contacted, waiting for reply" is shown
> > and a spinner icon.
> >
> > Even when it does it can take a similar time to open a page.
> >
> > Than clicking on "Manage Printers" when it does come up says
> > "Printer Error" "Unable to get printer list" But my
printer
> > is shown on the Administration page.
> >
> > I can't print anything any more !
> >
> > Help please. The Q4OS forum where I was pointed to have not
> > helped at all.
> >
> > Thanks in advance everyone.
>
> What's in your /etc/hosts and /etc/resolv.conf ?
>
> Nik
Attached:
hosts
resolve.conf.
6:48 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Localhost problem !
Hi Slavek,
On Tuesday 10 September 2019 19:34:45 Slávek Banko wrote:
On Tuesday 10 of September 2019 19:01:58 Baron wrote:
Will do that and see if it helps.
Thanks guys.
--
Best Regards:
Baron
Hi Nik,
Did you get chance to look at the two files that I attached ?
Reattached.
Thanks.
On Tuesday 10 September 2019 10:51:55 Baron wrote:
Baron,
try adding a "full" form (fqdn) in the hosts file next to the short
name castlelinux - for example castlelinux.home
Cheers Hi Nik,
On Tuesday 10 September 2019 10:44:59 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> Anno domini 2019 Tue, 10 Sep 10:30:29 +0100
>
> Baron scripsit:
> > Hi Guys,
> >
> > Running Q4OS, i7 10Gb ram, HP8300 machine.
> >
> > For some reason when I do "http://me@localhost:630/admin"
> > it can take up to 30 minutes before "CUPS 1.7.5 comes up.
> > The message "localhost contacted, waiting for reply" is
> > shown and a spinner icon.
> >
> > Even when it does it can take a similar time to open a
> > page.
> >
> > Than clicking on "Manage Printers" when it does come up
> > says "Printer Error" "Unable to get printer list" But my
> > printer is shown on the Administration page.
> >
> > I can't print anything any more !
> >
> > Help please. The Q4OS forum where I was pointed to have
> > not helped at all.
> >
> > Thanks in advance everyone.
>
> What's in your /etc/hosts and /etc/resolv.conf ?
>
> Nik
Attached:
hosts
resolve.conf. 
17 Sep
17 Sep
10:33 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Localhost problem !
Take "search lan" out of your /etc/resolv.conf file?
On Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 5:52 AM Baron <baron(a)linuxmaniac.net> wrote:
Hi Nik,
On Tuesday 10 September 2019 10:44:59 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Anno domini 2019 Tue, 10 Sep 10:30:29 +0100
Baron scripsit:
Attached:
hosts
resolve.conf.
--
Best Regards:
Baron
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Running Q4OS, i7 10Gb ram, HP8300 machine.
For some reason when I do "http://me@localhost:630/admin" it can
take up to 30 minutes before "CUPS 1.7.5 comes up.
The message "localhost contacted, waiting for reply" is shown
and a spinner icon.
Even when it does it can take a similar time to open a page.
Than clicking on "Manage Printers" when it does come up says
"Printer Error" "Unable to get printer list" But my printer is
shown on the Administration page.
I can't print anything any more !
Help please. The Q4OS forum where I was pointed to have not
helped at all.
Thanks in advance everyone.
What's in your /etc/hosts and /etc/resolv.conf ?
Nik
11 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Localhost problem !
On Tuesday 17 September 2019 11:33:22 Snidely Whiplash wrote:
Take "search lan" out of your
/etc/resolv.conf file?
OK. I will do that and try again.
Thanks.
On Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 5:52 AM Baron
<baron(a)linuxmaniac.net> wrote:
> Hi Nik,
>
> On Tuesday 10 September 2019 10:44:59 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> > Anno domini 2019 Tue, 10 Sep 10:30:29 +0100
> >
> > Baron scripsit:
> > > Hi Guys,
> > >
> > > Running Q4OS, i7 10Gb ram, HP8300 machine.
> > >
> > > For some reason when I do "http://me@localhost:630/admin" it
> > > can take up to 30 minutes before "CUPS 1.7.5 comes up.
> > > The message "localhost contacted, waiting for reply" is
> > > shown and a spinner icon.
> > >
> > > Even when it does it can take a similar time to open a page.
> > >
> > > Than clicking on "Manage Printers" when it does come up says
> > > "Printer Error" "Unable to get printer list" But my
printer
> > > is shown on the Administration page.
> > >
> > > I can't print anything any more !
> > >
> > > Help please. The Q4OS forum where I was pointed to have not
> > > helped at all.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance everyone.
> >
> > What's in your /etc/hosts and /etc/resolv.conf ?
> >
> > Nik
>
> Attached:
> hosts
> resolve.conf.
--
Best Regards:
Baron
11:27 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Localhost problem !
Hi Snidely,
On Tuesday 17 September 2019 12:00:06 Baron wrote:
On Tuesday 17 September 2019 11:33:22 Snidely Whiplash
wrote:
Unbelievable ! I did as you suggested and everything is now back to
normal,
Many thanks for your good advice. I've been struggling with this
problem for a while without any success.
--
Best Regards:
Baron
Take "search lan" out of your
/etc/resolv.conf file?
OK. I will do that and try again.
Thanks.
18 Sep
18 Sep
9:49 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Localhost problem !
On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 7:28 AM Baron <baron(a)linuxmaniac.net> wrote:
Unbelievable ! I did as you suggested and everything is now back to
normal,
I don't think "lan" would be valid in the search directive, only a domain.
I only put nameserver directives in my resolv.conf files, I don't
particularly want that behaviour, at least not unless I actually had a
domain that directive could catch. See, what happened to you is, you typed
an improperly formatted address (not a fully qualified domain) so your
resolver was trying to append .lan to your http://localhost.
11:07 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Localhost problem !
Hi Snidely,
On Wednesday 18 September 2019 10:49:31 Snidely Whiplash wrote:
On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 7:28 AM Baron
<baron(a)linuxmaniac.net> wrote:
Actually I didn't put it there !
It was automatically generated by "Network Manager" !
I had absolutely no idea until you pointed it out. Surely that has to
be a bug or at least an error !
Again thank you for your insight.
--
Best Regards:
Baron
Unbelievable ! I did as you suggested and
everything is now back
to normal,
I don't think "lan" would be valid in the search directive, only a
domain. I only put nameserver directives in my resolv.conf files, I
don't particularly want that behaviour, at least not unless I
actually had a domain that directive could catch. See, what
happened to you is, you typed an improperly formatted address (not
a fully qualified domain) so your resolver was trying to append
.lan to your http://localhost.
6:41 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Localhost problem !
On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 7:07 AM Baron <baron(a)linuxmaniac.net> wrote:
Actually I didn't put it there !
It was automatically generated by "Network Manager" !
I had absolutely no idea until you pointed it out. Surely that has to
be a bug or at least an error !
My guess would be that your domain is somewhere specified as "lan" and your
network manager is inserting that into the search directive. It will be a
dynamically generated file. This is how it works, quoting the man page for
resolv.conf:
"search Search list for host-name lookup.
The search list is normally determined from the local domain
name; by default, it contains only the local domain name. This may be
changed by listing the desired domain search path following
the search keyword with spaces or tabs separating the names.
Resolver queries having fewer than ndots dots (default is 1) in them will
be attempted using each component of the search path in
turn until a match is found. For environments with multiple
subdomains please read options ndots:n below to avoid man-in-the-middle
attacks and unnecessary traffic for the root-dns-servers.
Note that this process may be slow and will generate a lot of
network traffic if the servers for the listed domains are not local, and
that queries will time out if no server is available for
one of the domains."
Now, a problem that you're going to have is that your Network Manager may
regenerate that file. The /etc/resolv.conf may likely be a symbolic link.
What I do on distros that generate that file is remove the symlink, make
/etc/resolv.conf a real file, and set it "chattr +i" (immutable attribute)
so nothing can modify it. That's off grid and may have consequences if you
set up a new connection with a network manager that needs different DNS
servers so you'd have to keep that in mind. I use OpenDNS servers anyway,
so regardless of any connection that's what I'd want:
nameserver 208.67.222.222
nameserver 208.67.220.220
nameserver 192.168.0.1
With my own router to fall back on, which has, you guessed it, OpenDNS
servers configured within it.
10 Sep
10 Sep
9:55 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Localhost problem !
For some reason when I do
"http://me@localhost:630/admin" it can take
up to 30 minutes before "CUPS 1.7.5 comes up.
The message "localhost contacted, waiting for reply" is shown and a
spinner icon.
I have never seen the @-sign in conjunction with CUPS. Also, CUPS is on
port 631.
For me, http://localhost:631 does it.
10:10 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Localhost problem !
Hi,
On Tuesday 10 September 2019 10:55:20 de.bug wrote:
Sorry typo it should be 631. :-(
For some
reason when I do "http://me@localhost:630/admin" it can
take up to 30 minutes before "CUPS 1.7.5 comes up.
The message "localhost contacted, waiting for reply" is shown
and a spinner icon.
I have never seen the @-sign in conjunction with CUPS. Also, CUPS
is on port 631. For me, http://localhost:631 does it.
The @ sign comes up when I use the Trinity control panel.
Otherwise http://localhost:631/admin is the same.
--
Best Regards:
Baron
11:42 a.m.
New subject: [BULK] [trinity-users] Localhost problem !
On Tuesday 10 September 2019 05:30:29 Baron wrote:
Hi Guys,
Running Q4OS, i7 10Gb ram, HP8300 machine.
For some reason when I do "http://me@localhost:630/admin" it can take
wrong address, its 631.
up to 30 minutes before "CUPS 1.7.5 comes up.
The message "localhost contacted, waiting for reply" is shown and a
spinner icon.
Even when it does it can take a similar time to open a page.
Than clicking on "Manage Printers" when it does come up says "Printer
Error" "Unable to get printer list" But my printer is shown on the
Administration page.
I can't print anything any more !
Help please. The Q4OS forum where I was pointed to have not helped at
all.
Thanks in advance everyone.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
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soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
- Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
3:05 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: [BULK] [trinity-users] Localhost problem !
Hi Gene, Its a typo ! Finger trouble, I hit two keys at once and the
zero won. :-(
On Tuesday 10 September 2019 12:42:19 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Tuesday 10 September 2019 05:30:29 Baron wrote:
--
Best Regards:
Baron
Hi Guys,
Running Q4OS, i7 10Gb ram, HP8300 machine.
For some reason when I do "http://me@localhost:630/admin" it can
take
wrong address, its 631.
up to 30 minutes before "CUPS 1.7.5 comes
up.
The message "localhost contacted, waiting for reply" is shown
and a spinner icon.
Even when it does it can take a similar time to open a page.
Than clicking on "Manage Printers" when it does come up says
"Printer Error" "Unable to get printer list" But my printer is
shown on the Administration page.
I can't print anything any more !
Help please. The Q4OS forum where I was pointed to have not
helped at all.
Thanks in advance everyone.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
7:25 p.m.
New subject: [BULK] Re: [trinity-users] Re: [BULK] [trinity-users] Localhost problem !
On Tuesday 10 September 2019 11:05:11 Baron wrote:
Hi Gene, Its a typo ! Finger trouble, I hit two keys
at once and the
zero won. :-(
I have that same problem. Big hands, short fat fingers.
On Tuesday 10 September 2019 12:42:19 Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Tuesday 10 September 2019 05:30:29 Baron wrote:
> > Hi Guys,
> >
> > Running Q4OS, i7 10Gb ram, HP8300 machine.
> >
> > For some reason when I do "http://me@localhost:630/admin" it can
> > take
>
> wrong address, its 631.
>
> > up to 30 minutes before "CUPS 1.7.5 comes up.
> > The message "localhost contacted, waiting for reply" is shown
> > and a spinner icon.
> >
> > Even when it does it can take a similar time to open a page.
> >
> > Than clicking on "Manage Printers" when it does come up says
> > "Printer Error" "Unable to get printer list" But my
printer is
> > shown on the Administration page.
> >
> > I can't print anything any more !
> >
> > Help please. The Q4OS forum where I was pointed to have not
> > helped at all.
> >
> > Thanks in advance everyone.
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
- Louis D. Brandeis
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