Calvin and I have been going back and forth privately. He suggested I revert to the stable stuff ... can I do that with Ubuntu Natty? I thought my only option was Nightlies?

If it is an option, can someone post the correct like for the APT sources file?

-- Peter Laws / N5UWY National Weather Center / Network Operations Center University of Oklahoma Information Technology plaws@ou.edu (Remote) ________________________________________ From: Laws, Peter C. [plaws@ou.edu] Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 08:53 To: trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Subject: RE: [trinity-users] Nightly Builds, Ubuntu Natty, dead in water

Apologies for the top posting - I'm stuck in OWA! :-(

Desktop starts, everything is where it's supposed to be, clock is running, mouse moves cursor, NOTHING, and I mean nothing, is clickable. No menus, no icons, no focus, nada.

Thanks for the RAPID reply!

-- Peter Laws / N5UWY National Weather Center / Network Operations Center University of Oklahoma Information Technology plaws@ou.edu (Remote) ________________________________________ From: Calvin Morrison [mutantturkey@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 08:48 To: trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Subject: Re: [trinity-users] Nightly Builds, Ubuntu Natty, dead in water

On 2 November 2011 09:46, Laws, Peter C. plaws@ou.edu wrote:

Update went OK with no errors seen. However, since rebooting, I have mouse control, the desktop clock is running, but I can do nothing. I'\ can read mail on my Mac, but I really need for this to be running.

Any ideas? I'm sshed in so can grab logs if needed (though I don't really see anything glaring).

Help?

-- Peter Laws / N5UWY

What can't you do exactly? is kicker not working? does the session just fail to start completely?

Some more info would be great :)

Calvin Morrison

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On 11/02/11 08:46, Laws, Peter C. wrote:

...

Update went OK with no errors seen. However, since rebooting, I have mouse control, the desktop clock is running, but I can do nothing. I'\ can read mail on my Mac, but I really need for this to be running.

Any ideas? I'm sshed in so can grab logs if needed (though I don't really see anything glaring).

Help?

Thanks, big-time, to both Calvin M and Tim P for their assistance!

Turns out that hald got amnesia at least, if not a more serious brain disease, and kept dying/respawning/quitting.

Tim's suggestion was to purge hal and his friends and start over, which worked:

1. Use dpkg --purge --force-all to remove all hal related packages (i.e.

all packages with hal in their name; use dpkg -l | grep hal to find them)

That list on my system was: hal hal-info hal-trinity libhal-storage1 libhal1

2. apt-get update
3. apt-get -f install
4. Reboot

And voila, all is now functional!

I'm not sure all is well with hald, though, as I still don't see thumbdrives getting mounted. But I can WORK, and that's a good thing.

Glad to have been of assistance!

On a related note, this is one reason why we need to get rid of HAL as a dependency. HAL is not the most stable of programs on newer hardware, and the fact that it can take TDE down if it fails is a Very Bad Thing.

Tim

On Wed, 2 Nov 2011, Peter Laws wrote:

Thanks, big-time, to both Calvin M and Tim P for their assistance!

Turns out that hald got amnesia at least, if not a more serious brain disease, and kept dying/respawning/quitting.

Tim's suggestion was to purge hal and his friends and start over, which worked:

1. Use dpkg --purge --force-all to remove all hal related packages (i.e.

all packages with hal in their name; use dpkg -l | grep hal to find them)

That list on my system was: hal hal-info hal-trinity libhal-storage1 libhal1

2. apt-get update
3. apt-get -f install
4. Reboot

And, thanks to you, too!

After a recent 'normal' 10.04 LS update/upgrade, my `hald` was seg-faulting on this netbook (Trinity 3.5.11). I could not mount SD cards, nor was kpowersave functioning.

I did the steps laid out above and VIOLA!, I'm good again. (Here, hal-kde3 was involved, too.)

Again, Thank you. Jonesy