2 Nov
2011
2 Nov
'11
1:46 p.m.
Update went OK with no errors seen. However, since rebooting, I have mouse control, the
desktop clock is running, but I can do nothing. I'\ can read mail on my Mac, but I
really need for this to be running.
Any ideas? I'm sshed in so can grab logs if needed (though I don't really see
anything glaring).
Help?
--
Peter Laws / N5UWY
2 Nov
2 Nov
1:48 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Nightly Builds, Ubuntu Natty, dead in water
On 2 November 2011 09:46, Laws, Peter C. <plaws(a)ou.edu> wrote:
Update went OK with no errors seen. However, since
rebooting, I have mouse control, the desktop clock is running, but I can do nothing.
I'\ can read mail on my Mac, but I really need for this to be running.
Any ideas? I'm sshed in so can grab logs if needed (though I don't really see
anything glaring).
Help?
--
Peter Laws / N5UWY
What can't you do exactly? is kicker not working? does the session
just fail to start completely?
Some more info would be great :)
Calvin Morrison
1:53 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Nightly Builds, Ubuntu Natty, dead in water
Apologies for the top posting - I'm stuck in OWA! :-(
Desktop starts, everything is where it's supposed to be, clock is running, mouse moves
cursor, NOTHING, and I mean nothing, is clickable. No menus, no icons, no focus, nada.
Thanks for the RAPID reply!
--
Peter Laws / N5UWY
National Weather Center / Network Operations Center
University of Oklahoma Information Technology
plaws(a)ou.edu (Remote)
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From: Calvin Morrison [mutantturkey(a)gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 08:48
To: trinity-users(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net
Subject: Re: [trinity-users] Nightly Builds, Ubuntu Natty, dead in water
On 2 November 2011 09:46, Laws, Peter C. <plaws(a)ou.edu> wrote:
Update went OK with no errors seen. However, since
rebooting, I have mouse control, the desktop clock is running, but I can do nothing.
I'\ can read mail on my Mac, but I really need for this to be running.
Any ideas? I'm sshed in so can grab logs if needed (though I don't really see
anything glaring).
Help?
--
Peter Laws / N5UWY
What can't you do exactly? is kicker not working? does the session
just fail to start completely?
Some more info would be great :)
Calvin Morrison
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3 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Nightly Builds, Ubuntu Natty, dead in water
Calvin and I have been going back and forth privately. He suggested I revert to the
stable stuff ... can I do that with Ubuntu Natty? I thought my only option was Nightlies?
If it is an option, can someone post the correct like for the APT sources file?
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Peter Laws / N5UWY
National Weather Center / Network Operations Center
University of Oklahoma Information Technology
plaws(a)ou.edu (Remote)
________________________________________
From: Laws, Peter C. [plaws(a)ou.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 08:53
To: trinity-users(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net
Subject: RE: [trinity-users] Nightly Builds, Ubuntu Natty, dead in water
Apologies for the top posting - I'm stuck in OWA! :-(
Desktop starts, everything is where it's supposed to be, clock is running, mouse moves
cursor, NOTHING, and I mean nothing, is clickable. No menus, no icons, no focus, nada.
Thanks for the RAPID reply!
--
Peter Laws / N5UWY
National Weather Center / Network Operations Center
University of Oklahoma Information Technology
plaws(a)ou.edu (Remote)
________________________________________
From: Calvin Morrison [mutantturkey(a)gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 08:48
To: trinity-users(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net
Subject: Re: [trinity-users] Nightly Builds, Ubuntu Natty, dead in water
On 2 November 2011 09:46, Laws, Peter C. <plaws(a)ou.edu> wrote:
Update went OK with no errors seen. However, since
rebooting, I have mouse control, the desktop clock is running, but I can do nothing.
I'\ can read mail on my Mac, but I really need for this to be running.
Any ideas? I'm sshed in so can grab logs if needed (though I don't really see
anything glaring).
Help?
--
Peter Laws / N5UWY
What can't you do exactly? is kicker not working? does the session
just fail to start completely?
Some more info would be great :)
Calvin Morrison
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5:02 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Nightly Builds, Ubuntu Natty, dead in water
On 11/02/11 08:46, Laws, Peter C. wrote:
Update went OK with no errors seen. However, since
rebooting, I have mouse control, the desktop clock is running, but I can do nothing.
I'\ can read mail on my Mac, but I really need for this to be running.
Any ideas? I'm sshed in so can grab logs if needed (though I don't really see
anything glaring).
Help?
Thanks, big-time, to both Calvin M and Tim P for their assistance!
Turns out that hald got amnesia at least, if not a more serious brain
disease, and kept dying/respawning/quitting.
Tim's suggestion was to purge hal and his friends and start over, which worked:
1. Use dpkg --purge --force-all to remove all hal related packages (i.e.
all packages with hal in their name; use dpkg -l | grep hal to find them)
That list on my system was:
hal
hal-info
hal-trinity
libhal-storage1
libhal1
2. apt-get update
3. apt-get -f install
4. Reboot
And voila, all is now functional!
I'm not sure all is well with hald, though, as I still don't see
thumbdrives getting mounted. But I can WORK, and that's a good thing.
--
Peter Laws / N5UWY
National Weather Center / Network Operations Center
University of Oklahoma Information Technology
plaws(a)ou.edu
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5:05 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Nightly Builds, Ubuntu Natty, dead in water
On 11/02/11 08:46, Laws, Peter C. wrote:
Glad to have been of assistance!
On a related note, this is one reason why we need to get rid of HAL as a
dependency. HAL is not the most stable of programs on newer hardware, and
the fact that it can take TDE down if it fails is a Very Bad Thing.
Tim
Update went OK with no errors seen. However,
since rebooting, I have
mouse control, the desktop clock is running, but I can do nothing. I'\
can read mail on my Mac, but I really need for this to be running.
Any ideas? I'm sshed in so can grab logs if needed (though I don't
really see anything glaring).
Help?
Thanks, big-time, to both Calvin M and Tim P for their assistance!
Turns out that hald got amnesia at least, if not a more serious brain
disease, and kept dying/respawning/quitting.
Tim's suggestion was to purge hal and his friends and start over, which
worked:
1. Use dpkg --purge --force-all to remove all hal related packages (i.e.
all packages with hal in their name; use dpkg -l | grep hal to find them)
That list on my system was:
hal
hal-info
hal-trinity
libhal-storage1
libhal1
2. apt-get update
3. apt-get -f install
4. Reboot
And voila, all is now functional!
I'm not sure all is well with hald, though, as I still don't see
thumbdrives getting mounted. But I can WORK, and that's a good thing.
6:56 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Nightly Builds, Ubuntu Natty, dead in water
On 11/02/11 12:05, Timothy Pearson wrote:
Glad to have been of assistance!
On a related note, this is one reason why we need to get rid of HAL as a
dependency. HAL is not the most stable of programs on newer hardware, and
the fact that it can take TDE down if it fails is a Very Bad Thing.
Definitely flaky. Previous versions have had no problem seeing the volume
control on my Dell USB keyboard. This one doesn't, either, until it does.
It then lost track of the keyboard entirely but not the mouse ... whose
USB plug plugs into said keyboard ...
Any work-arounds until you're able to "bake it out" of the code?
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Peter Laws / N5UWY
National Weather Center / Network Operations Center
University of Oklahoma Information Technology
plaws(a)ou.edu
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Feedback? Contact my director, Matt Younkins, younkinsm(a)ou.edu. Thank you!
7:29 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Nightly Builds, Ubuntu Natty, dead in water
On Wed, 2 Nov 2011, Peter Laws wrote:
Thanks, big-time, to both Calvin M and Tim P for their
assistance!
Turns out that hald got amnesia at least, if not a more serious brain disease,
and kept dying/respawning/quitting.
Tim's suggestion was to purge hal and his friends and start over, which worked:
1. Use dpkg --purge --force-all to remove all hal related packages (i.e.
all packages with hal in their name; use dpkg -l | grep hal to find them)
That list on my system was:
hal
hal-info
hal-trinity
libhal-storage1
libhal1
2. apt-get update
3. apt-get -f install
4. Reboot
And, thanks to you, too!
After a recent 'normal' 10.04 LS update/upgrade, my `hald` was
seg-faulting on this netbook (Trinity 3.5.11). I could not mount SD
cards, nor was kpowersave functioning.
I did the steps laid out above and VIOLA!, I'm good again.
(Here, hal-kde3 was involved, too.)
Again, Thank you.
Jonesy
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