16 Jan
2021
16 Jan
'21
7:57 p.m.
On Saturday 16 January 2021 11:19:51 BorgLabs - Kate
Draven wrote:
> > On Saturday 16 January 2021 09:46:12 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> > > Hi all!
> > >
> > > I just found that after my latest updates to 14.0.10 I lost the
> > > "Delete" funtionality in konqueror. When I do a right click on
at file
> > > on a FAT32 usb thumbdrive, then the context menu pops up with the
> > > "Delete" entry greyed out. Pressing "<DEL>"-key
consequently des not
> > > delete the file nor move it to the thrashcan. Pressing
"<shift>+<DEL>"
> > > deletes the file.
> > >
> > > Does somebody else see this, too?
> > >
> > > Nik
> >
> > I just upgraded a couple days ago, and I don't have that problem.
> > Everything works the same as before.
> >
> > The problem, however, may reside in the flash drive itself, and the
fat32
> > filesystem. I've had problems with both
flash drives and SD cards:
> > sometimes they mount and behave normally, sometimes not. Do you have the
> > delete function when you are using Konqueror with non-fat drives, such
as
your
other
hard drives?
You might dig up your konquerorrc file, where the delete function can be
set or unset. You might be able to override other changes by changing
that file.
Bill
____________________________________________________
I need to use fat32 because I still have some itsinks clients (thankfully
that's fading)
Stock formatted usb and SD cards do exhibit problems like that in general.
That's why I always format them with linux before use. I never have a
problem after that.
NTFS, when I have to use that crap, sometimes will. HFS doesn't give me
much of a problem, less than NTFS more than fat32.
Try clean formatting the drives before use and make use you chown to your
user just in case.
Kate read Linux filesystems? e.g., SD cards in smartphones,
or flash drives to be
used with other computers. Maybe, the unfortunate user is forced by job or
circumstances to take those flash drives or SD cards and use them on
[*SHUDDER of horror*] Windozes or Rotten Apples? In such cases, fat32 is
read
by all of them; ext3 or ext4, not.
'Twould be nice if Linux could handle fat32 sometimes without having to
format
it to a Linux filesystem.
:-/
Bill
You misunderstood. Format the drives, using linux, TO fat32. They will work on
windows and apple [*SHUDDER of horror*] etc. It's just that linux does
a "clean" format with no empty spaces or oddities.
Kate
16 Jan
16 Jan
8:46 p.m.
New subject: Konqueror & FAT32
Hi all!
Anno domini 2021 Sat, 16 Jan 14:57:00 -0500
BorgLabs - Kate Draven scripsit:
Except ... maybe users need to use those items with other devices that do not
Sorry to say, neither does work. I tried it as "superdisk" or with one partion,
the result is the same - "Move to trash" is greyed out and <DEL> does not
work (<shift>+<DEL> does work).
I tried ext4, too, with the very same behaviour, so it's not filesystem specific. File
creation works without problems.
What's also strange: the konqeror is not notified about changes on that filesystem,
e.g. if I create a new file it is not visible in konqueror till I press "F5".
Oh, I have "udisks2" as helper.
Nik
--
Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA,
CIA ...
On Saturday 16
January 2021 11:19:51 BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote:
> > On Saturday 16 January 2021 09:46:12 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> > > Hi all!
> > >
> > > I just found that after my latest updates to 14.0.10 I lost the
> > > "Delete" funtionality in konqueror. When I do a right click on
at file
> > > on a FAT32 usb thumbdrive, then the context menu pops up with the
> > > "Delete" entry greyed out. Pressing "<DEL>"-key
consequently des not
> > > delete the file nor move it to the thrashcan. Pressing
"<shift>+<DEL>"
> > > deletes the file.
> > >
> > > Does somebody else see this, too?
> > >
> > > Nik
> >
> > I just upgraded a couple days ago, and I don't have that problem.
> > Everything works the same as before.
> >
> > The problem, however, may reside in the flash drive itself, and the
fat32
> > filesystem. I've had problems with
both flash drives and SD cards:
> > sometimes they mount and behave normally, sometimes not. Do you have the
> > delete function when you are using Konqueror with non-fat drives, such
as
your
other
hard drives?
You might dig up your konquerorrc file, where the delete function can be
set or unset. You might be able to override other changes by changing
that file.
Bill
____________________________________________________
I need to use fat32 because I still have some itsinks clients (thankfully
that's fading)
Stock formatted usb and SD cards do exhibit problems like that in general.
That's why I always format them with linux before use. I never have a
problem after that.
NTFS, when I have to use that crap, sometimes will. HFS doesn't give me
much of a problem, less than NTFS more than fat32.
Try clean formatting the drives before use and make use you chown to your
user just in case.
Kate read Linux filesystems? e.g., SD cards in
smartphones, or flash drives to be
used with other computers. Maybe, the unfortunate user is forced by job or
circumstances to take those flash drives or SD cards and use them on
[*SHUDDER of horror*] Windozes or Rotten Apples? In such cases, fat32 is
read
by all of them; ext3 or ext4, not.
'Twould be nice if Linux could handle fat32 sometimes without having to
format
it to a Linux filesystem.
:-/
Bill
You misunderstood. Format the drives, using linux, TO fat32. They will work
on
windows and apple [*SHUDDER of horror*] etc. It's just that linux does
a "clean" format with no empty spaces or oddities.
Kate
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8:58 p.m.
New subject: Konqueror & FAT32
As usual, the moment you press "send" you find the solution :)
Anno domini 2021 Sat, 16 Jan 21:46:46 +0100
Dr. Nikolaus Klepp scripsit:
Hi all!
Anno domini 2021 Sat, 16 Jan 14:57:00 -0500
BorgLabs - Kate Draven scripsit:
not
Sorry to say, neither does work. I tried it as "superdisk" or with one partion,
the result is the same - "Move to trash" is greyed out and <DEL> does not
work (<shift>+<DEL> does work).
I tried ext4, too, with the very same behaviour, so it's not filesystem specific.
File creation works without problems.
What's also strange: the konqeror is not notified about changes on that filesystem,
e.g. if I create a new file it is not visible in konqueror till I press "F5".
Oh, I have "udisks2" as helper.
Ok, in konqueror settings, tab "behaviour" --> "show delete entry (no
trash)". if this is checked, I get a "Delete" entry in the context menu.
This still does not enable "<del>"-key, but for the "usual" user
it's ok.
Interestingly I cannot identify the corresponding setting in
.trinity/share/config/konquerorrc
Nik
On
Saturday 16 January 2021 11:19:51 BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote:
> > On Saturday 16 January 2021 09:46:12 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> > > Hi all!
> > >
> > > I just found that after my latest updates to 14.0.10 I lost the
> > > "Delete" funtionality in konqueror. When I do a right click on
at file
> > > on a FAT32 usb thumbdrive, then the context menu pops up with the
> > > "Delete" entry greyed out. Pressing "<DEL>"-key
consequently des not
> > > delete the file nor move it to the thrashcan. Pressing
"<shift>+<DEL>"
> > > deletes the file.
> > >
> > > Does somebody else see this, too?
> > >
> > > Nik
> >
> > I just upgraded a couple days ago, and I don't have that problem.
> > Everything works the same as before.
> >
> > The problem, however, may reside in the flash drive itself, and the
fat32
> > filesystem. I've had problems with
both flash drives and SD cards:
> > sometimes they mount and behave normally, sometimes not. Do you have the
> > delete function when you are using Konqueror with non-fat drives, such
as
>
your
other
> hard drives?
>
> You might dig up your konquerorrc file, where the delete function can be
> set or unset. You might be able to override other changes by changing
> that file.
>
> Bill
> ____________________________________________________
I need to use fat32 because I still have some itsinks clients (thankfully
that's fading)
Stock formatted usb and SD cards do exhibit problems like that in general.
That's why I always format them with linux before use. I never have a
problem after that.
NTFS, when I have to use that crap, sometimes will. HFS doesn't give me
much of a problem, less than NTFS more than fat32.
Try clean formatting the drives before use and make use you chown to your
user just in case.
Kate
Except ... maybe users need to use those items with other devices that do read Linux filesystems? e.g., SD cards in
smartphones, or flash drives to be
used with other computers. Maybe, the unfortunate user is forced by job or
circumstances to take those flash drives or SD cards and use them on
[*SHUDDER of horror*] Windozes or Rotten Apples? In such cases, fat32 is
read
by all of them; ext3 or ext4, not.
'Twould be nice if Linux could handle fat32 sometimes without having to
format
it to a Linux filesystem.
:-/
Bill
You misunderstood. Format the drives, using linux, TO fat32. They will work
on
windows and apple [*SHUDDER of horror*] etc. It's just that linux does
a "clean" format with no empty spaces or oddities.
Kate
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Nik
--
Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA,
CIA ...
17 Jan
17 Jan
3:14 a.m.
New subject: Konqueror & FAT32
On Saturday 16 January 2021 12:58:59 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
{SNIP}
Did you add these lines to your konquerorrc file?
[Trash]
ConfirmDelete=true
ConfirmTrash=true
In my file, these lines occur just before the lines for kuick-copy and
kuick-move. If necessary, add the lines to the root version of konqerorrc, as
well.
Bill
Sorry to say, neither does work. I tried it as "superdisk" or with one
partion, the result is the same - "Move to trash" is greyed out and
<DEL>
does not work (<shift>+<DEL> does work).
I tried ext4, too, with the very same behaviour, so it's not filesystem
specific. File creation works without problems.
What's also strange: the konqeror is not notified about changes on that
filesystem, e.g. if I create a new file it is not visible in konqueror
till I press "F5".
Oh, I have "udisks2" as helper.
Ok, in konqueror settings, tab "behaviour" --> "show delete entry (no
trash)". if this is checked, I get a "Delete" entry in the context menu.
This still does not enable "<del>"-key, but for the "usual"
user it's ok.
Interestingly I cannot identify the corresponding setting in
.trinity/share/config/konquerorrc
Nik
2:59 a.m.
New subject: Konqueror & FAT32
On Saturday 16 January 2021 11:57:00 BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote:
Except ... maybe users need to use those items with other devices that do
not
Yeah ... that occurred to me after I had already gone to bed for what I
thought was a wee kip. You mentioned using NTFS, and that sort of threw me
off. Then, half-asleep, it occurred to me that you meant to format it to
fat32, but using a Linux machine, BEFORE ever using that flash drive or SD
card.
That might work better, I dunno. When I get a new SD card or flash drive, I'll
give that a try myself.
Bill
On Saturday 16
January 2021 11:19:51 BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote:
> > On Saturday 16 January 2021 09:46:12 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> > > Hi all!
> > >
> > > I just found that after my latest updates to 14.0.10 I lost the
> > > "Delete" funtionality in konqueror. When I do a right click on
at
> > > file on a FAT32 usb thumbdrive, then the context menu pops up with
> > > the "Delete" entry greyed out. Pressing
"<DEL>"-key consequently
> > > des not delete the file nor move it to the thrashcan. Pressing
> > > "<shift>+<DEL>" deletes the file.
> > >
> > > Does somebody else see this, too?
> > >
> > > Nik
> >
> > I just upgraded a couple days ago, and I don't have that problem.
> > Everything works the same as before.
> >
> > The problem, however, may reside in the flash drive itself, and the
fat32
> > filesystem. I've had problems with
both flash drives and SD cards:
> > sometimes they mount and behave normally, sometimes not. Do you have
> > the delete function when you are using Konqueror with non-fat drives,
> > such
as
your
other
hard drives?
You might dig up your konquerorrc file, where the delete function can
be set or unset. You might be able to override other changes by
changing that file.
Bill
____________________________________________________
I need to use fat32 because I still have some itsinks clients
(thankfully that's fading)
Stock formatted usb and SD cards do exhibit problems like that in
general. That's why I always format them with linux before use. I never
have a problem after that.
NTFS, when I have to use that crap, sometimes will. HFS doesn't give me
much of a problem, less than NTFS more than fat32.
Try clean formatting the drives before use and make use you chown to
your user just in case.
Kate read Linux filesystems? e.g., SD cards in
smartphones, or flash drives to
be used with other computers. Maybe, the unfortunate user is forced by
job or circumstances to take those flash drives or SD cards and use them
on [*SHUDDER of horror*] Windozes or Rotten Apples? In such cases, fat32
is
read
by all of them; ext3 or ext4, not.
'Twould be nice if Linux could handle fat32 sometimes without having to
format
it to a Linux filesystem.
:-/
Bill
You misunderstood. Format the drives, using linux, TO fat32. They will work
on windows and apple [*SHUDDER of horror*] etc. It's just that linux does a
"clean" format with no empty spaces or oddities.
Kate
6:43 p.m.
New subject: Konqueror & FAT32
On Saturday 16 January 2021, William Morder via tde-users wrote:
On Saturday 16 January 2021 11:57:00 BorgLabs - Kate
Draven wrote:
not
Yeah ... that occurred to me after I had already gone to bed for what I
thought was a wee kip. You mentioned using NTFS, and that sort of threw me
off. Then, half-asleep, it occurred to me that you meant to format it to
fat32, but using a Linux machine, BEFORE ever using that flash drive or SD
card.
That might work better, I dunno. When I get a new SD card or flash drive,
I'll give that a try myself.
Bill
____________________________________________________
It doesn't matter if they
drive has been used. You can back it up and format
it clean.
Kate
On
Saturday 16 January 2021 11:19:51 BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote:
> > On Saturday 16 January 2021 09:46:12 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> > > Hi all!
> > >
> > > I just found that after my latest updates to 14.0.10 I lost the
> > > "Delete" funtionality in konqueror. When I do a right click on
at
> > > file on a FAT32 usb thumbdrive, then the context menu pops up
> > > with the "Delete" entry greyed out. Pressing
"<DEL>"-key
> > > consequently des not delete the file nor move it to the
> > > thrashcan. Pressing "<shift>+<DEL>" deletes the
file.
> > >
> > > Does somebody else see this, too?
> > >
> > > Nik
> >
> > I just upgraded a couple days ago, and I don't have that problem.
> > Everything works the same as before.
> >
> > The problem, however, may reside in the flash drive itself, and the
fat32
> > filesystem. I've had problems with
both flash drives and SD cards:
> > sometimes they mount and behave normally, sometimes not. Do you
> > have the delete function when you are using Konqueror with non-fat
> > drives, such
as
>
your
other
> hard drives?
>
> You might dig up your konquerorrc file, where the delete function
> can be set or unset. You might be able to override other changes by
> changing that file.
>
> Bill
> ____________________________________________________
I need to use fat32 because I still have some itsinks clients
(thankfully that's fading)
Stock formatted usb and SD cards do exhibit problems like that in
general. That's why I always format them with linux before use. I
never have a problem after that.
NTFS, when I have to use that crap, sometimes will. HFS doesn't give
me much of a problem, less than NTFS more than fat32.
Try clean formatting the drives before use and make use you chown to
your user just in case.
Kate
Except ... maybe users need to use those items with other devices that
do read Linux filesystems? e.g., SD cards in
smartphones, or flash drives
to be used with other computers. Maybe, the unfortunate user is forced
by job or circumstances to take those flash drives or SD cards and use
them on [*SHUDDER of horror*] Windozes or Rotten Apples? In such cases,
fat32 is
read
by all of them; ext3 or ext4, not.
'Twould be nice if Linux could handle fat32 sometimes without having to
format
it to a Linux filesystem.
:-/
Bill
You misunderstood. Format the drives, using linux, TO fat32. They will
work on windows and apple [*SHUDDER of horror*] etc. It's just that linux
does a "clean" format with no empty spaces or oddities.
Kate
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