On Saturday 16 January 2021 11:19:51 BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote:
On Saturday 16 January 2021 09:46:12 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Hi all!
I just found that after my latest updates to 14.0.10 I lost the "Delete" funtionality in konqueror. When I do a right click on at file on a FAT32 usb thumbdrive, then the context menu pops up with the "Delete" entry greyed out. Pressing "<DEL>"-key consequently des not delete the file nor move it to the thrashcan. Pressing "<shift>+<DEL>" deletes the file.
Does somebody else see this, too?
Nik
I just upgraded a couple days ago, and I don't have that problem. Everything works the same as before.
The problem, however, may reside in the flash drive itself, and the
fat32
filesystem. I've had problems with both flash drives and SD cards: sometimes they mount and behave normally, sometimes not. Do you have the delete function when you are using Konqueror with non-fat drives, such
as
your
other
hard drives?
You might dig up your konquerorrc file, where the delete function can be set or unset. You might be able to override other changes by changing that file.
Bill ____________________________________________________
I need to use fat32 because I still have some itsinks clients (thankfully that's fading)
Stock formatted usb and SD cards do exhibit problems like that in general. That's why I always format them with linux before use. I never have a problem after that.
NTFS, when I have to use that crap, sometimes will. HFS doesn't give me much of a problem, less than NTFS more than fat32.
Try clean formatting the drives before use and make use you chown to your user just in case.
Kate
Except ... maybe users need to use those items with other devices that do
not
read Linux filesystems? e.g., SD cards in smartphones, or flash drives to be used with other computers. Maybe, the unfortunate user is forced by job or circumstances to take those flash drives or SD cards and use them on [*SHUDDER of horror*] Windozes or Rotten Apples? In such cases, fat32 is
read
by all of them; ext3 or ext4, not.
'Twould be nice if Linux could handle fat32 sometimes without having to
format
it to a Linux filesystem.
:-/
Bill
You misunderstood. Format the drives, using linux, TO fat32. They will work on windows and apple [*SHUDDER of horror*] etc. It's just that linux does a "clean" format with no empty spaces or oddities.
Kate
Hi all!
Anno domini 2021 Sat, 16 Jan 14:57:00 -0500 BorgLabs - Kate Draven scripsit:
On Saturday 16 January 2021 11:19:51 BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote:
On Saturday 16 January 2021 09:46:12 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Hi all!
I just found that after my latest updates to 14.0.10 I lost the "Delete" funtionality in konqueror. When I do a right click on at file on a FAT32 usb thumbdrive, then the context menu pops up with the "Delete" entry greyed out. Pressing "<DEL>"-key consequently des not delete the file nor move it to the thrashcan. Pressing "<shift>+<DEL>" deletes the file.
Does somebody else see this, too?
Nik
I just upgraded a couple days ago, and I don't have that problem. Everything works the same as before.
The problem, however, may reside in the flash drive itself, and the
fat32
filesystem. I've had problems with both flash drives and SD cards: sometimes they mount and behave normally, sometimes not. Do you have the delete function when you are using Konqueror with non-fat drives, such
as
your
other
hard drives?
You might dig up your konquerorrc file, where the delete function can be set or unset. You might be able to override other changes by changing that file.
Bill ____________________________________________________
I need to use fat32 because I still have some itsinks clients (thankfully that's fading)
Stock formatted usb and SD cards do exhibit problems like that in general. That's why I always format them with linux before use. I never have a problem after that.
NTFS, when I have to use that crap, sometimes will. HFS doesn't give me much of a problem, less than NTFS more than fat32.
Try clean formatting the drives before use and make use you chown to your user just in case.
Kate
Except ... maybe users need to use those items with other devices that do
not
read Linux filesystems? e.g., SD cards in smartphones, or flash drives to be used with other computers. Maybe, the unfortunate user is forced by job or circumstances to take those flash drives or SD cards and use them on [*SHUDDER of horror*] Windozes or Rotten Apples? In such cases, fat32 is
read
by all of them; ext3 or ext4, not.
'Twould be nice if Linux could handle fat32 sometimes without having to
format
it to a Linux filesystem.
:-/
Bill
You misunderstood. Format the drives, using linux, TO fat32. They will work on windows and apple [*SHUDDER of horror*] etc. It's just that linux does a "clean" format with no empty spaces or oddities.
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Sorry to say, neither does work. I tried it as "superdisk" or with one partion, the result is the same - "Move to trash" is greyed out and <DEL> does not work (<shift>+<DEL> does work).
I tried ext4, too, with the very same behaviour, so it's not filesystem specific. File creation works without problems.
What's also strange: the konqeror is not notified about changes on that filesystem, e.g. if I create a new file it is not visible in konqueror till I press "F5".
Oh, I have "udisks2" as helper.
Nik
As usual, the moment you press "send" you find the solution :)
Anno domini 2021 Sat, 16 Jan 21:46:46 +0100 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp scripsit:
Hi all!
Anno domini 2021 Sat, 16 Jan 14:57:00 -0500 BorgLabs - Kate Draven scripsit:
On Saturday 16 January 2021 11:19:51 BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote:
On Saturday 16 January 2021 09:46:12 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Hi all!
I just found that after my latest updates to 14.0.10 I lost the "Delete" funtionality in konqueror. When I do a right click on at file on a FAT32 usb thumbdrive, then the context menu pops up with the "Delete" entry greyed out. Pressing "<DEL>"-key consequently des not delete the file nor move it to the thrashcan. Pressing "<shift>+<DEL>" deletes the file.
Does somebody else see this, too?
Nik
I just upgraded a couple days ago, and I don't have that problem. Everything works the same as before.
The problem, however, may reside in the flash drive itself, and the
fat32
filesystem. I've had problems with both flash drives and SD cards: sometimes they mount and behave normally, sometimes not. Do you have the delete function when you are using Konqueror with non-fat drives, such
as
your
other
hard drives?
You might dig up your konquerorrc file, where the delete function can be set or unset. You might be able to override other changes by changing that file.
Bill ____________________________________________________
I need to use fat32 because I still have some itsinks clients (thankfully that's fading)
Stock formatted usb and SD cards do exhibit problems like that in general. That's why I always format them with linux before use. I never have a problem after that.
NTFS, when I have to use that crap, sometimes will. HFS doesn't give me much of a problem, less than NTFS more than fat32.
Try clean formatting the drives before use and make use you chown to your user just in case.
Kate
Except ... maybe users need to use those items with other devices that do
not
read Linux filesystems? e.g., SD cards in smartphones, or flash drives to be used with other computers. Maybe, the unfortunate user is forced by job or circumstances to take those flash drives or SD cards and use them on [*SHUDDER of horror*] Windozes or Rotten Apples? In such cases, fat32 is
read
by all of them; ext3 or ext4, not.
'Twould be nice if Linux could handle fat32 sometimes without having to
format
it to a Linux filesystem.
:-/
Bill
You misunderstood. Format the drives, using linux, TO fat32. They will work on windows and apple [*SHUDDER of horror*] etc. It's just that linux does a "clean" format with no empty spaces or oddities.
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Sorry to say, neither does work. I tried it as "superdisk" or with one partion, the result is the same - "Move to trash" is greyed out and <DEL> does not work (<shift>+<DEL> does work).
I tried ext4, too, with the very same behaviour, so it's not filesystem specific. File creation works without problems.
What's also strange: the konqeror is not notified about changes on that filesystem, e.g. if I create a new file it is not visible in konqueror till I press "F5".
Oh, I have "udisks2" as helper.
Ok, in konqueror settings, tab "behaviour" --> "show delete entry (no trash)". if this is checked, I get a "Delete" entry in the context menu. This still does not enable "<del>"-key, but for the "usual" user it's ok.
Interestingly I cannot identify the corresponding setting in .trinity/share/config/konquerorrc
Nik
Nik
On Saturday 16 January 2021 12:58:59 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: {SNIP}
Sorry to say, neither does work. I tried it as "superdisk" or with one partion, the result is the same - "Move to trash" is greyed out and <DEL> does not work (<shift>+<DEL> does work).
I tried ext4, too, with the very same behaviour, so it's not filesystem specific. File creation works without problems.
What's also strange: the konqeror is not notified about changes on that filesystem, e.g. if I create a new file it is not visible in konqueror till I press "F5".
Oh, I have "udisks2" as helper.
Ok, in konqueror settings, tab "behaviour" --> "show delete entry (no trash)". if this is checked, I get a "Delete" entry in the context menu. This still does not enable "<del>"-key, but for the "usual" user it's ok.
Interestingly I cannot identify the corresponding setting in .trinity/share/config/konquerorrc
Nik
Did you add these lines to your konquerorrc file?
[Trash] ConfirmDelete=true ConfirmTrash=true
In my file, these lines occur just before the lines for kuick-copy and kuick-move. If necessary, add the lines to the root version of konqerorrc, as well.
Bill
On Saturday 16 January 2021 11:57:00 BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote:
On Saturday 16 January 2021 11:19:51 BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote:
On Saturday 16 January 2021 09:46:12 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Hi all!
I just found that after my latest updates to 14.0.10 I lost the "Delete" funtionality in konqueror. When I do a right click on at file on a FAT32 usb thumbdrive, then the context menu pops up with the "Delete" entry greyed out. Pressing "<DEL>"-key consequently des not delete the file nor move it to the thrashcan. Pressing "<shift>+<DEL>" deletes the file.
Does somebody else see this, too?
Nik
I just upgraded a couple days ago, and I don't have that problem. Everything works the same as before.
The problem, however, may reside in the flash drive itself, and the
fat32
filesystem. I've had problems with both flash drives and SD cards: sometimes they mount and behave normally, sometimes not. Do you have the delete function when you are using Konqueror with non-fat drives, such
as
your
other
hard drives?
You might dig up your konquerorrc file, where the delete function can be set or unset. You might be able to override other changes by changing that file.
Bill ____________________________________________________
I need to use fat32 because I still have some itsinks clients (thankfully that's fading)
Stock formatted usb and SD cards do exhibit problems like that in general. That's why I always format them with linux before use. I never have a problem after that.
NTFS, when I have to use that crap, sometimes will. HFS doesn't give me much of a problem, less than NTFS more than fat32.
Try clean formatting the drives before use and make use you chown to your user just in case.
Kate
Except ... maybe users need to use those items with other devices that do
not
read Linux filesystems? e.g., SD cards in smartphones, or flash drives to be used with other computers. Maybe, the unfortunate user is forced by job or circumstances to take those flash drives or SD cards and use them on [*SHUDDER of horror*] Windozes or Rotten Apples? In such cases, fat32 is
read
by all of them; ext3 or ext4, not.
'Twould be nice if Linux could handle fat32 sometimes without having to
format
it to a Linux filesystem.
:-/
Bill
You misunderstood. Format the drives, using linux, TO fat32. They will work on windows and apple [*SHUDDER of horror*] etc. It's just that linux does a "clean" format with no empty spaces or oddities.
Kate
Yeah ... that occurred to me after I had already gone to bed for what I thought was a wee kip. You mentioned using NTFS, and that sort of threw me off. Then, half-asleep, it occurred to me that you meant to format it to fat32, but using a Linux machine, BEFORE ever using that flash drive or SD card.
That might work better, I dunno. When I get a new SD card or flash drive, I'll give that a try myself.
Bill
On Saturday 16 January 2021, William Morder via tde-users wrote:
On Saturday 16 January 2021 11:57:00 BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote:
On Saturday 16 January 2021 11:19:51 BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote:
On Saturday 16 January 2021 09:46:12 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Hi all!
I just found that after my latest updates to 14.0.10 I lost the "Delete" funtionality in konqueror. When I do a right click on at file on a FAT32 usb thumbdrive, then the context menu pops up with the "Delete" entry greyed out. Pressing "<DEL>"-key consequently des not delete the file nor move it to the thrashcan. Pressing "<shift>+<DEL>" deletes the file.
Does somebody else see this, too?
Nik
I just upgraded a couple days ago, and I don't have that problem. Everything works the same as before.
The problem, however, may reside in the flash drive itself, and the
fat32
filesystem. I've had problems with both flash drives and SD cards: sometimes they mount and behave normally, sometimes not. Do you have the delete function when you are using Konqueror with non-fat drives, such
as
your
other
hard drives?
You might dig up your konquerorrc file, where the delete function can be set or unset. You might be able to override other changes by changing that file.
Bill ____________________________________________________
I need to use fat32 because I still have some itsinks clients (thankfully that's fading)
Stock formatted usb and SD cards do exhibit problems like that in general. That's why I always format them with linux before use. I never have a problem after that.
NTFS, when I have to use that crap, sometimes will. HFS doesn't give me much of a problem, less than NTFS more than fat32.
Try clean formatting the drives before use and make use you chown to your user just in case.
Kate
Except ... maybe users need to use those items with other devices that do
not
read Linux filesystems? e.g., SD cards in smartphones, or flash drives to be used with other computers. Maybe, the unfortunate user is forced by job or circumstances to take those flash drives or SD cards and use them on [*SHUDDER of horror*] Windozes or Rotten Apples? In such cases, fat32 is
read
by all of them; ext3 or ext4, not.
'Twould be nice if Linux could handle fat32 sometimes without having to
format
it to a Linux filesystem.
:-/
Bill
You misunderstood. Format the drives, using linux, TO fat32. They will work on windows and apple [*SHUDDER of horror*] etc. It's just that linux does a "clean" format with no empty spaces or oddities.
Kate
Yeah ... that occurred to me after I had already gone to bed for what I thought was a wee kip. You mentioned using NTFS, and that sort of threw me off. Then, half-asleep, it occurred to me that you meant to format it to fat32, but using a Linux machine, BEFORE ever using that flash drive or SD card.
That might work better, I dunno. When I get a new SD card or flash drive, I'll give that a try myself.
Bill ____________________________________________________
It doesn't matter if they drive has been used. You can back it up and format it clean.
Kate
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