Hello
I am running Kubuntu 10.04 with trinity. I have seen that Tim sent a patch to libreoffice to make it work with trinity. What is the state of art of this patch.
What is more recommendable, in question of stability, to use openoffice 3.4.1 or libreoffice 3.6.3
Thanks
Uwe Brauer
In short - OpenOffice is dead thanks to Oracle. Use LibreOffice. I think that most of major distros replaced OpenOffice with LibreOffice quite a while ago.
Janek
Dnia wtorek, 27 listopada 2012, Uwe Brauer napisał:
Hello
I am running Kubuntu 10.04 with trinity. I have seen that Tim sent a patch to libreoffice to make it work with trinity. What is the state of art of this patch.
What is more recommendable, in question of stability, to use openoffice 3.4.1 or libreoffice 3.6.3
Thanks
Uwe Brauer
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I highly recommend LibreOffice because they have a more active development team and are very organized. Also with LibreOffice you will get nice integration with TDE
On 27 November 2012 11:15, Janek S. fremenzone@poczta.onet.pl wrote:
In short - OpenOffice is dead thanks to Oracle. Use LibreOffice. I think that most of major distros replaced OpenOffice with LibreOffice quite a while ago.
Janek
Dnia wtorek, 27 listopada 2012, Uwe Brauer napisał:
Hello
I am running Kubuntu 10.04 with trinity. I have seen that Tim sent a patch to libreoffice to make it work with trinity. What is the state of art of this patch.
What is more recommendable, in question of stability, to use openoffice 3.4.1 or libreoffice 3.6.3
Thanks
Uwe Brauer
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Janek S. wrote:
In short - OpenOffice is dead thanks to Oracle. Use LibreOffice. I think that most of major distros replaced OpenOffice with LibreOffice quite a while ago.
Janek
It is my impression, that Libreoffice is more actively developed. I was only unsure whether it would run smoothly under trinity (I think I have 3.5.11).
Uwe
On Tuesday 27 November 2012 07:15:59 you wrote:
In short - OpenOffice is dead thanks to Oracle.
This is not true, Apache was given the code by Oracle. Apache is a great place for a project, they have many. AOO just graduated to become a full fledged project after a careful, and time consuming, code review, incubator status.
snip
I think that most of major distros replaced OpenOffice with LibreOffice
quite a while ago.
True
Hello
I am running Kubuntu 10.04 with trinity. I have seen that Tim sent a patch to libreoffice to make it work with trinity. What is the state of art of this patch.
What is more recommendable, in question of stability, to use openoffice 3.4.1 or libreoffice 3.6.3
I prefer AOO, Libreoffice has broken a feature that I rely upon. Both run fine on TDE, not sure what 'integration' offers me as a user.
I say try them both, try not to believe the FUD, fwiw, AOO has the Apache2 license, LO is GPL, this may be the reason for the FUD.
This is not true, Apache was given the code by Oracle.
True, but IIRC this only happened after main developers left the project, huge companies (Google, Novell) have pledged support for LibreOffice and the community itself gave support to LibreOffice. Only then Oracle realised that it was left almost completely alone with OO and decied to pass the project to Apache.
And I don't want to FUD anyone - I only want to remind how things were *two years ago*. Since then I have not used OO, so perhaps should not make statemetnts about it. Anyway Uwe, advice to try out both and choose the one you like is reasonable.
Janek
Apache is a great place for a project, they have many. AOO just graduated to become a full fledged project after a careful, and time consuming, code review, incubator status.
snip
I think that most of major distros replaced OpenOffice with LibreOffice
quite a while ago.
True
Hello
I am running Kubuntu 10.04 with trinity. I have seen that Tim sent a patch to libreoffice to make it work with trinity. What is the state of art of this patch.
What is more recommendable, in question of stability, to use openoffice 3.4.1 or libreoffice 3.6.3
I prefer AOO, Libreoffice has broken a feature that I rely upon. Both run fine on TDE, not sure what 'integration' offers me as a user.
I say try them both, try not to believe the FUD, fwiw, AOO has the Apache2 license, LO is GPL, this may be the reason for the FUD.
On 27 November 2012 12:51, Greg Madden gomadtroll@gci.net wrote:
On Tuesday 27 November 2012 07:15:59 you wrote:
In short - OpenOffice is dead thanks to Oracle.
This is not true, Apache was given the code by Oracle. Apache is a great place for a project, they have many. AOO just graduated to become a full fledged project after a careful, and time consuming, code review, incubator status.
snip
I think that most of major distros replaced OpenOffice with LibreOffice
quite a while ago.
True
Hello
I am running Kubuntu 10.04 with trinity. I have seen that Tim sent a patch to libreoffice to make it work with trinity. What is the state of art of this patch.
What is more recommendable, in question of stability, to use openoffice 3.4.1 or libreoffice 3.6.3
I prefer AOO, Libreoffice has broken a feature that I rely upon. Both run fine on TDE, not sure what 'integration' offers me as a user.
I say try them both, try not to believe the FUD, fwiw, AOO has the Apache2 license, LO is GPL, this may be the reason for the FUD. -- Peace,
Greg
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The FUD is years of oracle preventing OO.org from being successful, making it difficult for the team to succeed. SO 90% of the core developers left, started their own organization, and with 500+ contributors and several major point releases in less than two years. Oracle gave up, and threw OO.org at apache to keep.
the integration is TDE file dialogs
On Tuesday 27 November 2012 09:19:08 you wrote:
On 27 November 2012 12:51, Greg Madden gomadtroll@gci.net wrote:
On Tuesday 27 November 2012 07:15:59 you wrote:
In short - OpenOffice is dead thanks to Oracle.
This is not true, Apache was given the code by Oracle. Apache is a great place for a project, they have many. AOO just graduated to become a full fledged project after a careful, and time consuming, code review, incubator status.
snip
I think that most of major distros replaced OpenOffice with LibreOffice
quite a while ago.
True
Hello
I am running Kubuntu 10.04 with trinity. I have seen that Tim sent a patch to libreoffice to make it work with trinity. What is the state of art of this patch.
What is more recommendable, in question of stability, to use openoffice 3.4.1 or libreoffice 3.6.3
I prefer AOO, Libreoffice has broken a feature that I rely upon. Both run fine on TDE, not sure what 'integration' offers me as a user.
I say try them both, try not to believe the FUD, fwiw, AOO has the Apache2 license, LO is GPL, this may be the reason for the FUD. -- Peace,
Greg
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The FUD is years of oracle preventing OO.org from being successful, making it difficult for the team to succeed. SO 90% of the core developers left, started their own organization, and with 500+ contributors and several major point releases in less than two years. Oracle gave up, and threw OO.org at apache to keep.
the integration is TDE file dialogs
Well Oracle is no longer associated with AOO, so rehashing what Oracle did or did not do is is not informative.
IBM is contributing to AOO, both developers and the Symphony code. Just information not an endorsement. The next release of AOO may very well have the Dockable Task Pane from Symphony. I tried Symphony, it is visiually different from AOO & LO.
I filed bug reports on LO starting in 3.4.x, 3.3.x and before was okay. LO has completelty fubared the 'table>border>line styles' tool in Writer:-(
On 27 November 2012 13:34, Greg Madden gomadtroll@gci.net wrote:
Well Oracle is no longer associated with AOO, so rehashing what Oracle did or did not do is is not informative.
That is simply not true. The whole reason LibreOffice exists is because of how badly Oracle did. LibreOffice has an open and democratic process that aligns with the open source philosophies, uses a good license and isn't being run by the ghost of what used to be OpenOffice.org. Apache suffers from a bad license, few contributors, few releases, many bugs and thousands and thousands of lines of cruft.
I am so glad that LO exists. Prior to that there was little development happening in regard to word processors for Linux. Now LO is making leaps and bounds.
On 28/11/12 08:17, Janek S. wrote:
Dnia wtorek, 27 listopada 2012, Calvin Morrison napisał:
Apache suffers from a bad license
Forgive my laziness, but could you tell in a word or two what is wrong with Apache license?
One word: "nothing".
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#apache2 http://www.apache.org/licenses/GPL-compatibility.html
On Tuesday 27 November 2012 13:14:41 you wrote:
On 28/11/12 08:17, Janek S. wrote:
Dnia wtorek, 27 listopada 2012, Calvin Morrison napisał:
Apache suffers from a bad license
Forgive my laziness, but could you tell in a word or two what is wrong with Apache license?
One word: "nothing".
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#apache2 http://www.apache.org/licenses/GPL-compatibility.html
and,
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
There is a reason they used the Apache license and not GPL and there is a reason those companies contribute to OpenOffice
On 27 November 2012 20:21, Greg Madden gomadtroll@gci.net wrote:
On Tuesday 27 November 2012 13:14:41 you wrote:
On 28/11/12 08:17, Janek S. wrote:
Dnia wtorek, 27 listopada 2012, Calvin Morrison napisał:
Apache suffers from a bad license
Forgive my laziness, but could you tell in a word or two what is wrong with Apache license?
One word: "nothing".
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#apache2 http://www.apache.org/licenses/GPL-compatibility.html
and,
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
-- Peace,
Greg
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On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 08:35:42PM -0500, Calvin Morrison wrote:
There is a reason they used the Apache license and not GPL and there is a reason those companies contribute to OpenOffice
I dare say there is a reason. If they had chosen GPL, they would have had a reason. Whatever licence they chose, they would have had a reason. Does the mere existence of "a reason" make it a "bad licence"? If so, all licences are bad.
I think more permissive licenses are bad for the Open Source community.
On 27 November 2012 20:42, Steven D'Aprano steve@pearwood.info wrote:
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 08:35:42PM -0500, Calvin Morrison wrote:
There is a reason they used the Apache license and not GPL and there is a reason those companies contribute to OpenOffice
I dare say there is a reason. If they had chosen GPL, they would have had a reason. Whatever licence they chose, they would have had a reason. Does the mere existence of "a reason" make it a "bad licence"? If so, all licences are bad.
-- Steven
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