27 Nov
2012
27 Nov
'12
2:05 p.m.
Hello
I am running Kubuntu 10.04 with trinity.
I have seen that Tim sent a patch to libreoffice to make it
work with trinity. What is the state of art of this patch.
What is more recommendable, in question of stability, to use
openoffice 3.4.1 or
libreoffice 3.6.3
Thanks
Uwe Brauer
27 Nov
27 Nov
4:15 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] openoffice 3.41 vs Libreoffice 3.6.3
In short - OpenOffice is dead thanks to Oracle. Use LibreOffice. I think that most of
major
distros replaced OpenOffice with LibreOffice quite a while ago.
Janek
Dnia wtorek, 27 listopada 2012, Uwe Brauer napisał:
Hello
I am running Kubuntu 10.04 with trinity.
I have seen that Tim sent a patch to libreoffice to make it
work with trinity. What is the state of art of this patch.
What is more recommendable, in question of stability, to use
openoffice 3.4.1 or
libreoffice 3.6.3
Thanks
Uwe Brauer
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5:23 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] openoffice 3.41 vs Libreoffice 3.6.3
I highly recommend LibreOffice because they have a more active development
team and are very organized. Also with LibreOffice you will get nice
integration with TDE
On 27 November 2012 11:15, Janek S. <fremenzone(a)poczta.onet.pl> wrote:
In short - OpenOffice is dead thanks to Oracle. Use
LibreOffice. I think
that most of major
distros replaced OpenOffice with LibreOffice quite a while ago.
Janek
Dnia wtorek, 27 listopada 2012, Uwe Brauer napisał:
Hello
I am running Kubuntu 10.04 with trinity.
I have seen that Tim sent a patch to libreoffice to make it
work with trinity. What is the state of art of this patch.
What is more recommendable, in question of stability, to use
openoffice 3.4.1 or
libreoffice 3.6.3
Thanks
Uwe Brauer
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5:46 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] openoffice 3.41 vs Libreoffice 3.6.3
Janek S. wrote:
In short - OpenOffice is dead thanks to Oracle. Use
LibreOffice. I think that most of major
distros replaced OpenOffice with LibreOffice quite a while ago.
Janek
It is my impression, that Libreoffice is more actively developed.
I was only unsure whether it would run smoothly under trinity
(I think I have 3.5.11).
Uwe
5:51 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] openoffice 3.41 vs Libreoffice 3.6.3
On Tuesday 27 November 2012 07:15:59 you wrote:
In short - OpenOffice is dead thanks to Oracle.
This is not true, Apache was given the code by Oracle. Apache is a great
place for a project, they have many. AOO just graduated to become a
full fledged project after a careful, and time consuming, code review,
incubator status.
snip
I think that most of major distros replaced OpenOffice
with LibreOffice
quite a while ago.
True
> Hello
>
> I am running Kubuntu 10.04 with trinity.
> I have seen that Tim sent a patch to libreoffice to make it
> work with trinity. What is the state of art of this patch.
>
> What is more recommendable, in question of stability, to use
> openoffice 3.4.1 or
> libreoffice 3.6.3
I prefer AOO, Libreoffice has broken a feature that I rely upon. Both
run fine on TDE, not sure what 'integration' offers me as a user.
I say try them both, try not to believe the FUD, fwiw, AOO has the
Apache2 license, LO is GPL, this may be the reason for the FUD.
--
Peace,
Greg
6:04 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] openoffice 3.41 vs Libreoffice 3.6.3
This is not true, Apache was given the code by Oracle.
True, but IIRC this only happened after main developers left the project, huge
companies (Google,
Novell) have pledged support for LibreOffice and the community itself gave support to
LibreOffice. Only then Oracle realised that it was left almost completely alone with OO
and
decied to pass the project to Apache.
And I don't want to FUD anyone - I only want to remind how things were *two years
ago*. Since then
I have not used OO, so perhaps should not make statemetnts about it. Anyway Uwe, advice to
try
out both and choose the one you like is reasonable.
Janek
Apache is a great
place for a project, they have many. AOO just graduated to become a
full fledged project after a careful, and time consuming, code review,
incubator status.
snip
I think that most of major distros replaced
OpenOffice with LibreOffice
quite a while ago.
True
> Hello
>
> I am running Kubuntu 10.04 with trinity.
> I have seen that Tim sent a patch to libreoffice to make it
> work with trinity. What is the state of art of this patch.
>
> What is more recommendable, in question of stability, to use
> openoffice 3.4.1 or
> libreoffice 3.6.3
I prefer AOO, Libreoffice has broken a feature that I rely upon. Both
run fine on TDE, not sure what 'integration' offers me as a user.
I say try them both, try not to believe the FUD, fwiw, AOO has the
Apache2 license, LO is GPL, this may be the reason for the FUD.
6:19 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] openoffice 3.41 vs Libreoffice 3.6.3
On 27 November 2012 12:51, Greg Madden <gomadtroll(a)gci.net> wrote:
On Tuesday 27 November 2012 07:15:59 you wrote:
The FUD is years of oracle preventing OO.org from being successful, making
it difficult for the team to succeed. SO 90% of the core developers left,
started their own organization, and with 500+ contributors and several
major point releases in less than two years. Oracle gave up, and threw
OO.org at apache to keep.
the integration is TDE file dialogs
In short - OpenOffice is dead thanks to Oracle.
This is not true, Apache was given the code by Oracle. Apache is a great
place for a project, they have many. AOO just graduated to become a
full fledged project after a careful, and time consuming, code review,
incubator status.
snip
I think that most of major distros replaced
OpenOffice with LibreOffice
quite a while ago.
True
> Hello
>
> I am running Kubuntu 10.04 with trinity.
> I have seen that Tim sent a patch to libreoffice to make it
> work with trinity. What is the state of art of this patch.
>
> What is more recommendable, in question of stability, to use
> openoffice 3.4.1 or
> libreoffice 3.6.3
I prefer AOO, Libreoffice has broken a feature that I rely upon. Both
run fine on TDE, not sure what 'integration' offers me as a user.
I say try them both, try not to believe the FUD, fwiw, AOO has the
Apache2 license, LO is GPL, this may be the reason for the FUD.
--
Peace,
Greg
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6:34 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] openoffice 3.41 vs Libreoffice 3.6.3
On Tuesday 27 November 2012 09:19:08 you wrote:
On 27 November 2012 12:51, Greg Madden
<gomadtroll(a)gci.net> wrote:
Well Oracle is no longer associated with AOO, so rehashing what Oracle
did or did not do is is not informative.
IBM is contributing to AOO, both developers and the Symphony code. Just
information not an endorsement. The next release of AOO may very well
have the Dockable Task Pane from Symphony. I tried Symphony, it is
visiually different from AOO & LO.
I filed bug reports on LO starting in 3.4.x, 3.3.x and before was okay.
LO has completelty fubared the 'table>border>line styles' tool in
Writer:-(
--
Peace,
Greg
On Tuesday 27 November 2012 07:15:59 you wrote:
The FUD is years of oracle preventing OO.org from being successful,
making it difficult for the team to succeed. SO 90% of the core
developers left, started their own organization, and with 500+
contributors and several major point releases in less than two years.
Oracle gave up, and threw OO.org at apache to keep.
the integration is TDE file dialogs In short - OpenOffice is dead thanks to Oracle.
This is not true, Apache was given the code by Oracle. Apache is a
great place for a project, they have many. AOO just graduated to
become a full fledged project after a careful, and time consuming,
code review, incubator status.
snip
I think that most of major distros replaced
OpenOffice with
LibreOffice
quite a while ago.
True
> Hello
>
> I am running Kubuntu 10.04 with trinity.
> I have seen that Tim sent a patch to libreoffice to make it
> work with trinity. What is the state of art of this patch.
>
> What is more recommendable, in question of stability, to use
> openoffice 3.4.1 or
> libreoffice 3.6.3
I prefer AOO, Libreoffice has broken a feature that I rely upon.
Both run fine on TDE, not sure what 'integration' offers me as a
user.
I say try them both, try not to believe the FUD, fwiw, AOO has the
Apache2 license, LO is GPL, this may be the reason for the FUD.
--
Peace,
Greg
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6:59 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] openoffice 3.41 vs Libreoffice 3.6.3
On 27 November 2012 13:34, Greg Madden <gomadtroll(a)gci.net> wrote:
Well Oracle is no longer associated with AOO, so rehashing what Oracle
did or did not do is is not informative.
That is simply not true. The whole reason LibreOffice exists is because of
how badly Oracle did. LibreOffice has an open and democratic process that
aligns with the open source philosophies, uses a good license and isn't
being run by the ghost of what used to be OpenOffice.org. Apache suffers
from a bad license, few contributors, few releases, many bugs and thousands
and thousands of lines of cruft.
I am so glad that LO exists. Prior to that there was little development
happening in regard to word processors for Linux. Now LO is making leaps
and bounds.
10:14 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] openoffice 3.41 vs Libreoffice 3.6.3
On 28/11/12 08:17, Janek S. wrote:
Dnia wtorek, 27 listopada 2012, Calvin Morrison
napisał:
One word: "nothing".
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#apache2
http://www.apache.org/licenses/GPL-compatibility.html
--
Steven
Apache suffers from a bad license
Forgive
my laziness, but could you tell in a word or two what is wrong with Apache license?
28 Nov
28 Nov
1:21 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] openoffice 3.41 vs Libreoffice 3.6.3
On Tuesday 27 November 2012 13:14:41 you wrote:
On 28/11/12 08:17, Janek S. wrote:
and,
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
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Greg
Dnia wtorek, 27 listopada 2012, Calvin Morrison
napisał:
One word: "nothing".
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#apache2
http://www.apache.org/licenses/GPL-compatibility.html Apache suffers from a bad license
Forgive my laziness, but could you tell in a word or two what is
wrong with Apache license?
1:35 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] openoffice 3.41 vs Libreoffice 3.6.3
There is a reason they used the Apache license and not GPL and there
is a reason those companies contribute to OpenOffice
On 27 November 2012 20:21, Greg Madden <gomadtroll(a)gci.net> wrote:
On Tuesday 27 November 2012 13:14:41 you wrote:
On 28/11/12 08:17, Janek S. wrote:
and,
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
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Greg
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Dnia wtorek, 27 listopada 2012, Calvin Morrison
napisał:
One word: "nothing".
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#apache2
http://www.apache.org/licenses/GPL-compatibility.html Apache suffers from a bad license
Forgive my laziness, but could you tell in a word or two what is
wrong with Apache license?
1:42 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] openoffice 3.41 vs Libreoffice 3.6.3
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 08:35:42PM -0500, Calvin Morrison wrote:
There is a reason they used the Apache license and not
GPL and there
is a reason those companies contribute to OpenOffice
I dare say there is a reason. If they had chosen GPL, they would have
had a reason. Whatever licence they chose, they would have had a
reason. Does the mere existence of "a reason" make it a "bad licence"?
If so, all licences are bad.
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1:47 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] openoffice 3.41 vs Libreoffice 3.6.3
I think more permissive licenses are bad for the Open Source community.
On 27 November 2012 20:42, Steven D'Aprano <steve(a)pearwood.info> wrote:
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 08:35:42PM -0500, Calvin
Morrison wrote:
There is a reason they used the Apache license
and not GPL and there
is a reason those companies contribute to OpenOffice
I dare say there is a reason. If they had chosen GPL, they would have
had a reason. Whatever licence they chose, they would have had a
reason. Does the mere existence of "a reason" make it a "bad
licence"?
If so, all licences are bad.
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Steven
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