30 Mar
2020
30 Mar
'20
12:27 p.m.
Good Day everyone,
after the latest update and after I logged in into TDM some xmessage
boxes popped up before starting TDE and informed me of some errors.
The second time I start my PC and TDE it's only one xmessage box.
Clicking away these boxes result in starting a TDE session normally and
I haven't observed any problems yet.
What can I do to satisfy r14-xdg-update or at least silence it?
Any hint is appreciated.
Kind regards,
Stefan Krusche
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I've only found this information regarding the complaint of this
r14-xdg-update script in /var/tmp/tdecache-$USER:
$ cat r14-xdg-update-validation-test9.txt
<Filename>kde-KMail.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-kwrite.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-konsole.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-ksensors.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-ksystemlog.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-konsole.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-ksystemlog.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-KMail.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-knetworkmanager.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-Home.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-kwrite.desktop</Filename>
And there are a couple of lines in ~/.xsession-errors which don't tell
me more than "error code is 9" which seems to mean that test number 9
of that script failed (see above).
That R14_UPDATE_TEST9 basically greps the tdemenu-config-file:
grep "<Filename>kde-"
"$USER_DIR/.config/menus/applications-tdemenuedit.menu"
and accordingly finds some entries because there are some with that
string, old config files brought from good old kde3 which exist under
~/ and as they are properly registered with tdemenu always have worked.
AIUI it doesn't matter what the file name really is but I never got
familiar with the way the configuration of TDE's menus is implemented
in XML and so on.
If I'd rename the files so that r14-xdg-update is happy and change the
entries in applications-tdemenuedit.menu accordingly the "error"
probably would vanish I guess. But maybe r14-xdg-update shouldn't
complain in the first place or make it clear what actually the problem
is which I don't see.
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30 Mar
30 Mar
12:41 p.m.
On 3/30/20, Stefan Krusche <linux(a)stefan-krusche.de> wrote:
after the latest update and after I logged in into TDM
some xmessage
boxes popped up before starting TDE and informed me of some errors.
I'm getting the same alert, it doesn't seem to be effecting anything.
It says, "Likely a file permissions issue", which seems interesting.
Curt-
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1:15 p.m.
Am Montag, 30. März 2020 schrieb Curt Howland:
On 3/30/20, Stefan Krusche
<linux(a)stefan-krusche.de> wrote:
Thanks for the confirmation, Curt.
Yes, that's what I've been thinking. But why the "error"-message then.
The only thing I found is the "kde-" naming of some old files as I
pointed out in the OP.
after the latest update and after I logged in
into TDM some
xmessage boxes popped up before starting TDE and informed me of
some errors.
I'm getting the same alert, it doesn't seem to be effecting anything. It says, "Likely a file permissions issue",
which seems interesting.
I could not find anything related to file permissions and I don't know
what kind of file permission problem that would be. It's about
configuration files in ~/.config and ~/.local which always have had the
same permissions and still have. Anyway, I can't remember what the
complaints were when I first encountered this, there were three, maybe
three different tests of this r14-xdg-update thing.
Kind regards,
Stefan
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1:10 p.m.
Dear Stefan,
30.Mar.2020 at 14:27 you wrote:
I've only found this information regarding the complaint of this
r14-xdg-update script in /var/tmp/tdecache-$USER:
$ cat r14-xdg-update-validation-test9.txt
<Filename>kde-KMail.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-kwrite.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-konsole.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-ksensors.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-ksystemlog.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-konsole.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-ksystemlog.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-KMail.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-knetworkmanager.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-Home.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-kwrite.desktop</Filename>
grep "<Filename>kde-"
"$USER_DIR/.config/menus/applications-tdemenuedit.menu"
If I'd rename the files so that r14-xdg-update is happy and change the
entries in applications-tdemenuedit.menu accordingly the "error"
You can safely delete the 11 mentioned lines in the
......tdemenuedit.menu -file, you'll find the same entries there again,
though starting with tde-....., nothing is lost.
Then delete the ....test9.txt file in /var/tmp/tdecache-$USER, end the
current session and restart it again. Now only one error-warning pops
up and if you again restart the session, also this pop-up has
disappeared.
Yes, I uttered quite some strong words when I encountered that nuisance
and had to put the puzzle together:-)
Kind regards, Peter.
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1:43 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: r14-xdg-update script error when TDM is starting TDE
phiebie(a)drei.at wrote:
You can safely delete the 11 mentioned lines in the
......tdemenuedit.menu -file, you'll find the same entries there again,
though starting with tde-....., nothing is lost.
Then delete the ....test9.txt file in /var/tmp/tdecache-$USER, end the
current session and restart it again. Now only one error-warning pops
up and if you again restart the session, also this pop-up has
disappeared.
Yes, I uttered quite some strong words when I encountered that nuisance
and had to put the puzzle together:-)
Kind regards, Peter.
Good explanation, thank you.
Has someone also encountered that it takes much longer to start the TDE
session after recent updates?
I have the impression that the first start after an upgrade + reboot + login
takes much longer than what was before.
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3:29 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: r14-xdg-update script error when TDM is starting TDE
deloptes wrote on 3/30/20 7:43 AM:
Has someone also encountered that it takes much longer to start the TDE
session after recent updates?
Yes. With the emphasis on the word "much".
I'm waiting for an official fix to the script problem, basically because I
don't understand it: the error message(s) is/are too vague to be sure of what
to do to fix it without being certain that one's not breaking something else.
It seems pretty likely that everyone who installs the most recent batch of
updates will trigger it, so I expect a fix will come quickly.
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8:54 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: r14-xdg-update script error when TDM is starting TDE
On Monday 30 March 2020, deloptes wrote:
phiebie(a)drei.at wrote:
Yes I've
noticed it takes TDE longer to load.
As for the r14-xdg-update script error. I always get that after a major
update.
All I do is this.
I comment out everything from line 315 to line 340. Fixes the problems, sort
of.
Thanks to all, be safe. Wash your keyboard pokers.
Kate
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You can safely delete the 11 mentioned lines in
the
......tdemenuedit.menu -file, you'll find the same entries there again,
though starting with tde-....., nothing is lost.
Then delete the ....test9.txt file in /var/tmp/tdecache-$USER, end the
current session and restart it again. Now only one error-warning pops
up and if you again restart the session, also this pop-up has
disappeared.
Yes, I uttered quite some strong words when I encountered that nuisance
and had to put the puzzle together:-)
Kind regards, Peter.
Good explanation, thank you.
Has someone also encountered that it takes much longer to start the TDE
session after recent updates?
I have the impression that the first start after an upgrade + reboot +
login takes much longer than what was before.
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10:23 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: r14-xdg-update script error when TDM is starting TDE
BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote on 3/30/20 2:54 PM:
As for the r14-xdg-update script error. I always get
that after a major
update.
FWIW, I have never seen it before this morning when I installed the latest
updates.
Doc
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2:50 p.m.
Am Montag, 30. März 2020 schrieb phiebie(a)drei.at:
You can safely delete the 11 mentioned lines in the
......tdemenuedit.menu -file, you'll find the same entries there
again, though starting with tde-....., nothing is lost.
Well, I'm not so sure about that one. The actual files being referred to
are named kde-*. So, if the entries with "kde-*" are deleted, the
entries with "tde-*" would probably fail to find the files because
there are no files named as "tde-*"…
Thank you.
Kind regards,
Stefan
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31 Mar
31 Mar
1:32 p.m.
Dear Stefan,
Am 30.Mar.2020 um 16:50 schriebst Du:
Maybe also the prefix "tde-" is omitted.
Well, a simple exercise to verify.
Copy, to be safe, the file ....tdemenuedit.menu to somewhere else with
an irrelevant name.
Delete the 2 lines with "kde-KMail" in the original file, save the
file, end the session and now restart the whole PC to be sure, that the
memory is emptied.
Ignore, after the restart, the annoying messages and now try to
start KMail as you did in the past. If it starts, problem is solved and
you can delete the other 9 lines. If not, what I very much doubt, you
still have the backup.
Good luck, Peter.
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You can safely delete the 11 mentioned lines in
the
......tdemenuedit.menu -file, you'll find the same entries there
again, though starting with tde-....., nothing is lost.
Well, I'm not so sure about that one. The actual files being referred
to are named kde-*. So, if the entries with "kde-*" are deleted, the
entries with "tde-*" would probably fail to find the files because
there are no files named as "tde-*"…
1 Apr
1 Apr
8:04 a.m.
Dear Peter,
thanks for your comments and advice.
Am Dienstag, 31. März 2020 schrieb phiebie(a)drei.at:
Dear Stefan,
Am 30.Mar.2020 um 16:50 schriebst Du:
Maybe also the prefix "tde-" is omitted.
Well, a simple exercise to verify.
Copy, to be safe, the file ....tdemenuedit.menu to somewhere else
with an irrelevant name.
Delete the 2 lines with "kde-KMail" in the original file, save the
file,
As I originally posted I can figure a way to manually abolish the reason
for r14-xdg-update's complaint. That would have to be tested.
You can
safely delete the 11 mentioned lines in the
......tdemenuedit.menu -file, you'll find the same entries there
again, though starting with tde-....., nothing is lost.
Well, I'm not so sure about that one. The actual files being
referred to are named kde-*. So, if the entries with "kde-*" are
deleted, the entries with "tde-*" would probably fail to find the
files because there are no files named as "tde-*"… end the session and now restart the whole PC to be
sure, that
the memory is emptied.
AIUI it would not be necessary to reboot. Restart TDE or X should be
good enough.
Ignore, after the restart, the annoying messages and
now try to
start KMail as you did in the past. If it starts, problem is solved
and you can delete the other 9 lines. If not, what I very much doubt,
you still have the backup.
Does that mean you haven't tested that? Then it makes sense to wish me
good luck! ;-)
Good luck, Peter.
Same to you!
Kind regards,
Stefan
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30 Mar
30 Mar
9:27 p.m.
Hi,
I am seeing similar problems, reported them as a bug here:
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12 Apr
10:51 a.m.
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On 2020/03/30 09:27 PM, Stefan Krusche wrote:
Good Day everyone,
after the latest update and after I logged in into TDM some xmessage boxes popped up
before starting TDE and
informed me of some errors.
The second time I start my PC and TDE it's only one xmessage box.
Clicking away these boxes result in starting a TDE session normally and I haven't
observed any problems yet.
What can I do to satisfy r14-xdg-update or at least silence it?
Any hint is appreciated.
Kind regards, Stefan Krusche
For the records, this has been addressed. Problems were likely to happen with test6 and
test9.
The problem with test6 was caused by a reasonably recent commit that highlighted an hidden
issue.
The problem with test9 is linked to the same problem and an automatic fix has been put in
place. This fix will be
applied only if it is safe to do so.
There could be special cases when an autofix is not possible and in such case test9 will
keep failing and a manual fix
needs to be applied. This is likely related to special tde menu editing configuration.
Feel free to report it here if you need support.
The upcoming R14.0.8 release will contain the above fixes.
Cheers
Michele
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1:09 p.m.
On Sun, 12 Apr 2020, Michele Calgaro via trinity-users wrote:
On 2020/03/30 09:27 PM, Stefan Krusche wrote:
>
> after the latest update and after I logged in into TDM some xmessage
> boxes popped up before starting TDE and informed me of some errors.
<- snip ->
For the records, this has been addressed. Problems were
likely to
happen with test6 and test9.
The problem with test6 was caused by a reasonably recent commit that
highlighted an hidden issue.
The problem with test9 is linked to the same problem and an automatic
fix has been put in place. This fix will be applied only if it is safe
to do so.
There could be special cases when an autofix is not possible and in
such case test9 will keep failing and a manual fix needs to be applied.
This is likely related to special tde menu editing configuration.
Feel free to report it here if you need support.
The upcoming R14.0.8 release will contain the above fixes.
I assume this is in PSB (Prelim. Stable Build), or soon will be?
Thanks,
Jonesy
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6:55 p.m.
On Sunday 12 of April 2020 15:09:55 Marvin Jones via trinity-users wrote:
On Sun, 12 Apr 2020, Michele Calgaro via trinity-users
wrote:
Yes, your assumption is correct - this is are already in the PSB. However,
for PTB it is necessary to wait a bit, as builders are now busy building
the final R14.0.8 packages.
On 2020/03/30 09:27 PM, Stefan Krusche wrote:
> after the latest update and after I logged in into TDM some xmessage
> boxes popped up before starting TDE and informed me of some errors.
<- snip ->
For the records, this has been addressed. Problems
were likely to
happen with test6 and test9.
The problem with test6 was caused by a reasonably recent commit that
highlighted an hidden issue.
The problem with test9 is linked to the same problem and an automatic
fix has been put in place. This fix will be applied only if it is safe
to do so.
There could be special cases when an autofix is not possible and in
such case test9 will keep failing and a manual fix needs to be applied.
This is likely related to special tde menu editing configuration.
Feel free to report it here if you need support.
The upcoming R14.0.8 release will contain the above fixes.
I assume this is in PSB (Prelim. Stable Build), or soon will be?
Thanks,
Jonesy
Cheers
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15 Apr
15 Apr
6:44 a.m.
Am Sonntag, 12. April 2020 schrieb Michele Calgaro via trinity-users:
On 2020/03/30 09:27 PM, Stefan Krusche wrote:
>
> What can I do to satisfy r14-xdg-update or at least silence it?
For the records, this has been addressed. Problems
were likely to
happen with test6 and test9. The problem with test6 was caused by a
reasonably recent commit that highlighted an hidden issue. The
problem with test9 is linked to the same problem and an automatic fix
has been put in place. This fix will be applied only if it is safe to
do so.
There could be special cases when an autofix is not possible and in
such case test9 will keep failing and a manual fix needs to be
applied. This is likely related to special tde menu editing
configuration. Feel free to report it here if you need support.
The upcoming R14.0.8 release will contain the above fixes.
Cheers
Michele
Thank you for looking into this, much appreciated!
Kind regards,
Stefan
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