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Leslie -- Platform: Linux Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.4 - x86_64 Desktop Environment: Trinity Qt: 3.5.0 TDE: R14.1.0 tde-config: 1.0
On Saturday 04 November 2023 16:16:59 J Leslie Turriff via tde-users wrote:
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Leslie
TDE always was famous to some of us.
;-)
Long live Trinity Desktop Environment!
Bill
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On Saturday 04 November 2023, J Leslie Turriff via tde-users was heard to say:
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Leslie
"decidedly unglamourous desktop"
It works. It doesn't get in the way.
Many years ago, Linus talked about the "hard candy shell" around the kernel, the fact that a system call today, yesterday, tomorrow, were all the same. The insides change constantly, but the interface is consistent.
That's what TDE is for me. A consistent interface. My 20 year old mbox email files work exactly the same way they did when I first created them.
Now I don't _have_ to use mbox files, but if I do they work. They remain consistent. And that consistency (with of course the occasional slips) is the value of TDE to me. Kmail, Konqueror, kgpg, Klipper, Konsole, TDE wallet. I use them every day, and they just work.
Thank you.
- -- You may my glories and my state dispose, But not my griefs; still am I king of those. --- William Shakespeare, "Richard II"
On 2023-11-04 20:46:14 you wrote:
On Saturday 04 November 2023, J Leslie Turriff via tde-users was heard
to say:
https://www.theregister.com/2023/11/02/trinity_desktop_q4os/
Leslie
"decidedly unglamourous desktop"
It works. It doesn't get in the way.
Many years ago, Linus talked about the "hard candy shell" around the kernel, the fact that a system call today, yesterday, tomorrow, were all the same. The insides change constantly, but the interface is consistent.
That's what TDE is for me. A consistent interface. My 20 year old mbox email files work exactly the same way they did when I first created them.
Now I don't _have_ to use mbox files, but if I do they work. They remain consistent. And that consistency (with of course the occasional slips) is the value of TDE to me. Kmail, Konqueror, kgpg, Klipper, Konsole, TDE wallet. I use them every day, and they just work.
Thank you.
I can't agree more. The enthusiasm for eye-candy and gratuitous user interface changes is to me a real niusance. Thank goodness TDE eschews such nonsense.
Leslie
On Sun, 5 Nov 2023, J Leslie Turriff via tde-users wrote:
The enthusiasm for eye-candy and gratuitous user interface changes is to me a real niusance. Thank goodness TDE eschews such nonsense.
I saw what you did there.
:-) Jonesy
On Sunday 05 November 2023 07.15:28 J Leslie Turriff via tde-users wrote:
The enthusiasm for eye-candy and gratuitous user interface changes is to me a real niusance.
Yes, but we who love simplicity may be an endangered species :)
Just last week, I had a student watching when I booted my laptop (MX-Linux). He had a look at the GRUB menu (I have to keep a cropped Windows 10 on that harddisk because that's all my school knows to use) and meant:
"Oh, you're still using an very old OS from the start of the 21st Century" - because there was text (!) to read, so that was not "nice looking" as "modern" operating systems...
I tried to explain to him that this OS was very modern - I don't think he believed me (but he was polite enough to pretend he did :)
Thierry
On Sunday 05 November 2023 05:20:39 Thierry de Coulon via tde-users wrote:
On Sunday 05 November 2023 07.15:28 J Leslie Turriff via tde-users wrote:
The enthusiasm for eye-candy and gratuitous user interface changes is to me a real niusance.
Yes, but we who love simplicity may be an endangered species :)
Just last week, I had a student watching when I booted my laptop (MX-Linux). He had a look at the GRUB menu (I have to keep a cropped Windows 10 on that harddisk because that's all my school knows to use) and meant:
"Oh, you're still using an very old OS from the start of the 21st Century"
- because there was text (!) to read, so that was not "nice looking" as
"modern" operating systems...
I tried to explain to him that this OS was very modern - I don't think he believed me (but he was polite enough to pretend he did :)
Thierry
Yes, I have also got condescension from young, tech-savvy users who sometimes despise me, an old geezer who no longer possesses the mental acuity to handle the new, "more modern" systems.
They tend to look upon me as somebody that they either must help across the street (because at that moment they are feeling gracious or charitable); or as somebody that they must shove aside (because they are in a hurry, and I am in their way).
And then, like Odysseus returned to Ithaka, I drop my dirty old beggar disguise, and unleash my godlike powers, and they are astonished and fearful. It is hard, just then, not to look down upon them with a mixture of pity and contempt, but I try to avoid the low road.
There are little perks to running a GNU/Linux system, with a TDE desktop. Also, one has fleeting glimpses of all that is possible, if only people would open their eyes and not get entangled in proprietary operating systems and applications.
Bill
On 11/5/23 08:22, Thierry de Coulon via tde-users wrote:
On Sunday 05 November 2023 07.15:28 J Leslie Turriff via tde-users wrote:
The enthusiasm for eye-candy and gratuitous user interface changes is to me a real niusance.
Yes, but we who love simplicity may be an endangered species :)
Just last week, I had a student watching when I booted my laptop (MX-Linux). He had a look at the GRUB menu (I have to keep a cropped Windows 10 on that harddisk because that's all my school knows to use) and meant:
"Oh, you're still using an very old OS from the start of the 21st Century" - because there was text (!) to read, so that was not "nice looking" as "modern" operating systems...
I tried to explain to him that this OS was very modern - I don't think he believed me (but he was polite enough to pretend he did :)
Thierry
I had a M-I-L in the mmiddle of the last century that had sayings, some of which were pretty cutting when considering the context, "Well, (pause for effect) you've got the same clothes to get glad in that you got mad in"
Translated to todays language: "Eye candy can be nice but if its hiding stuff that doesn't work, its an eyesore."
Cheers, Gene Heskett.
Hello,
Before, we could see on cars : "My Toyota is fantastic". (I don't know). Now, we can say : "My Tde-Trinity is fantastic ! " (and surely & certainly ). Tde-Trinity helps and contributes to adopt GNU/Linux and to keep it.
Have a good day.
André
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