4 Nov
2023
4 Nov
'23
11:16 p.m.
https://www.theregister.com/2023/11/02/trinity_desktop_q4os/
Leslie
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Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.4 - x86_64
Desktop Environment: Trinity
Qt: 3.5.0
TDE: R14.1.0
tde-config: 1.0
5 Nov
5 Nov
12:05 a.m.
On Saturday 04 November 2023 16:16:59 J Leslie Turriff via tde-users wrote:
TDE always was famous to some of us.
;-)
Long live Trinity Desktop Environment!
Bill
1:46 a.m.
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On Saturday 04 November 2023, J Leslie Turriff via tde-users was heard
to say:
"decidedly unglamourous desktop"
It works. It doesn't get in the way.
Many years ago, Linus talked about the "hard candy shell" around the
kernel, the fact that a system call today, yesterday, tomorrow, were
all the same. The insides change constantly, but the interface is
consistent.
That's what TDE is for me. A consistent interface. My 20 year old mbox
email files work exactly the same way they did when I first created
them.
Now I don't _have_ to use mbox files, but if I do they work. They
remain consistent. And that consistency (with of course the
occasional slips) is the value of TDE to me. Kmail, Konqueror, kgpg,
Klipper, Konsole, TDE wallet. I use them every day, and they just
work.
Thank you.
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You may my glories and my state dispose,
But not my griefs; still am I king of those.
--- William Shakespeare, "Richard II"
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6:15 a.m.
On 2023-11-04 20:46:14 you wrote:
On Saturday 04 November 2023, J Leslie Turriff via
tde-users was heard
to say:
"decidedly unglamourous desktop"
It works. It doesn't get in the way.
Many years ago, Linus talked about the "hard candy shell" around the
kernel, the fact that a system call today, yesterday, tomorrow, were
all the same. The insides change constantly, but the interface is
consistent.
That's what TDE is for me. A consistent interface. My 20 year old mbox
email files work exactly the same way they did when I first created
them.
Now I don't _have_ to use mbox files, but if I do they work. They
remain consistent. And that consistency (with of course the
occasional slips) is the value of TDE to me. Kmail, Konqueror, kgpg,
Klipper, Konsole, TDE wallet. I use them every day, and they just
work.
Thank you.
I can't agree more. The enthusiasm for eye-candy and gratuitous user
interface changes is to me a real niusance. Thank goodness TDE eschews such
nonsense.
Leslie
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Platform: Linux
Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.4 - x86_64
Desktop Environment: Trinity
Qt: 3.5.0
TDE: R14.1.0
tde-config: 1.0
1:09 p.m.
On Sun, 5 Nov 2023, J Leslie Turriff via tde-users wrote:
The enthusiasm for eye-candy and gratuitous user
interface changes is to me a real niusance.
Thank goodness TDE eschews such nonsense.
I saw what you did there.
:-) Jonesy
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1:20 p.m.
On Sunday 05 November 2023 07.15:28 J Leslie Turriff via tde-users wrote:
The enthusiasm for eye-candy and gratuitous user
interface changes is to me a real niusance.
Yes, but we who love simplicity may be an endangered species :)
Just last week, I had a student watching when I booted my laptop (MX-Linux).
He had a look at the GRUB menu (I have to keep a cropped Windows 10 on that
harddisk because that's all my school knows to use) and meant:
"Oh, you're still using an very old OS from the start of the 21st Century" -
because there was text (!) to read, so that was not "nice looking"
as "modern" operating systems...
I tried to explain to him that this OS was very modern - I don't think he
believed me (but he was polite enough to pretend he did :)
Thierry
2:22 p.m.
On Sunday 05 November 2023 05:20:39 Thierry de Coulon via tde-users wrote:
On Sunday 05 November 2023 07.15:28 J Leslie Turriff
via tde-users wrote:
Yes, I have also got condescension from young, tech-savvy users who sometimes
despise me, an old geezer who no longer possesses the mental acuity to handle
the new, "more modern" systems.
They tend to look upon me as somebody that they either must help across the
street (because at that moment they are feeling gracious or charitable); or
as somebody that they must shove aside (because they are in a hurry, and I am
in their way).
And then, like Odysseus returned to Ithaka, I drop my dirty old beggar
disguise, and unleash my godlike powers, and they are astonished and fearful.
It is hard, just then, not to look down upon them with a mixture of pity and
contempt, but I try to avoid the low road.
There are little perks to running a GNU/Linux system, with a TDE desktop.
Also, one has fleeting glimpses of all that is possible, if only people would
open their eyes and not get entangled in proprietary operating systems and
applications.
Bill
The enthusiasm for eye-candy and gratuitous user
interface changes is to me a real niusance.
Yes, but we who love simplicity may be an endangered species :)
Just last week, I had a student watching when I booted my laptop
(MX-Linux). He had a look at the GRUB menu (I have to keep a cropped
Windows 10 on that harddisk because that's all my school knows to use) and
meant:
"Oh, you're still using an very old OS from the start of the 21st Century"
- because there was text (!) to read, so that was not "nice looking" as
"modern" operating systems...
I tried to explain to him that this OS was very modern - I don't think he
believed me (but he was polite enough to pretend he did :)
Thierry 
2:51 p.m.
On 11/5/23 08:22, Thierry de Coulon via tde-users wrote:
On Sunday 05 November 2023 07.15:28 J Leslie Turriff
via tde-users wrote:
I had a M-I-L in the mmiddle of the last century that had sayings, some
of which were pretty cutting when considering the context,
"Well, (pause for effect) you've got the same clothes to get glad in
that you got mad in"
Translated to todays language:
"Eye candy can be nice but if its hiding stuff that doesn't work, its an
eyesore."
Cheers, Gene Heskett.
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soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
- Louis D. Brandeis
The enthusiasm for eye-candy and gratuitous user
interface changes is to me a real niusance.
Yes, but we who love simplicity may be an endangered species :)
Just last week, I had a student watching when I booted my laptop (MX-Linux).
He had a look at the GRUB menu (I have to keep a cropped Windows 10 on that
harddisk because that's all my school knows to use) and meant:
"Oh, you're still using an very old OS from the start of the 21st Century"
-
because there was text (!) to read, so that was not "nice looking"
as "modern" operating systems...
I tried to explain to him that this OS was very modern - I don't think he
believed me (but he was polite enough to pretend he did :)
Thierry 
6 Nov
6 Nov
11:36 a.m.
Hello,
Before, we could see on cars : "My Toyota is fantastic".
(I don't know).
Now, we can say : "My Tde-Trinity is fantastic ! "
(and surely & certainly ).
Tde-Trinity helps and contributes to adopt GNU/Linux and to keep it.
Have a good day.
André
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