So do I normally, using fetchmail to keep an imap server (dovecot) at my ISP empty. And I have that part workiing, but it will not install anything from R14 despite updating the keyring. Synaptic turns the doit button red and proclaims I have held, broken packages, but refuses to ID them. So just to get a gui, i've quite a bit of xfce4 installed but can't find anything that will assign multiple workspaces, so I'm stuck with only one shell at a time to tyry and see whats going on. My 7 gigs of old mail is because there are several lists I've never expired, so of it going back to 2002. Even getting xfce's default of 4 workspaces would be a huge help. And I'd be double blessed if I could install tde, the whole maryann. trying to run synaptic gets me this gets me a msgs that says use the broken filter to locate 3 broken packages, but theres no such "filter". clearing that and clicking on the fix-broken meno item gets me this: E: Problem executing scripts APT::Update::Post-Invoke-Success 'if /usr/bin/test -w /var/lib/command-not-found/ -a -e /usr/lib/cnf-update-db; then /usr/lib/cnf-update-db > /dev/null; fi' E: Sub-process returned an error code searching locate doesn't find cnf-update-db, but an "ls -l /usr/lib" shows: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 40 Jan 6 2021 cnf-update-db -> ../share/command-not-found/cnf-update-db drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Nov 29 06:07 colobot lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 44 Jan 6 2021 command-not-found -> ../share/command-not-found/command-not-found And that leaves me bum-fuzzled. I could do another, 4th install but that is around an 8 hour job just to clear the raid10's. I did find thebroken filter finally: fig2dev mono-runtime-sgen python-is-python2 I'll see if they can be renoved. took some doing, then desktop-base had to be removed and desktop-trinity added, but now its updateing 263 trinity pkgs, I'll send this, quite FF and reboot to see if I'm making progress. In the meantime, Thanks hunter On Mon, 29 Nov, 2021 at 3:04 PM, Hunter Ellett via tde-users &lt;users(a)trinitydesktop.org&gt; wrote: To: tde users Cc: hunter2k1(a)disroot.org On November 29, 2021 1:11:24 PM CST, Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net<mailto:gheskett@shentel.net>> wrote: Hi Gene, Are you talking about tde or kde? Im assuming tde by the title and the context of your message but then you say "kmail 5something". Are you using Plasma Kmail on TDE? Clearing this up will help us diagnose the problem. Either way, 7 GB of mail is a lot. Im guessing this is POP which I know nothing about, for I use IMAP.