4 Aug
2020
4 Aug
'20
4:08 p.m.
I've recently set up a new machine with TDE. For reasons I can't figure out, when
I log into TDE
on the new machine the startup screen needs about 4-5 seconds to get past the
"Loading settings"
step. On the old machine this takes a split second, so on the new machine this is several
times
slower. The new machine has a faster SDD and comparable CPU (more cores than the old one,
but
that's probably not relevant here) so I don't see a good reason why this is so
slow. I know there
is a setting in TCC to disable configuration checking on login, which I did. It seems to
*sometimes* work, i.e. occasionally "Loading settings" will take a split second,
but for the most
time it still takes 4-5 seconds. Does anyone have a clue what's going on here?
Janek
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4 Aug
4 Aug
4:24 p.m.
On Tuesday 04 August 2020 11:08:34 am Janek Stolarek wrote:
I've recently set up a new machine with TDE. For
reasons I can't figure
out, when I log into TDE on the new machine the startup screen needs about
4-5 seconds to get past the "Loading settings" step. On the old machine
this takes a split second, so on the new machine this is several times
slower. The new machine has a faster SDD and comparable CPU (more cores
than the old one, but that's probably not relevant here) so I don't see a
good reason why this is so slow. I know there is a setting in TCC to
disable configuration checking on login, which I did. It seems to
*sometimes* work, i.e. occasionally "Loading settings" will take a split
second, but for the most time it still takes 4-5 seconds. Does anyone have
a clue what's going on here?
Hi Janek,
Not exactly a clue, but it's generally not a good idea to turn off the
configuration checking on login. Take sip of your drink, get another cup of
coffee, but let it do it's thing so your system works correctly...
Best,
Michael
PS: The new(ish) TDE has a 'fixer' program that runs at login to do ??? (ask
a dev). It'll run each login until it's satisfied (mine ran 4 or 5 times
doing an upgrade from stretch/R14.06 to buster/R14.08).
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4:35 p.m.
Anno domini 2020 Tue, 4 Aug 11:24:22 -0500
Michael scripsit:
On Tuesday 04 August 2020 11:08:34 am Janek Stolarek
wrote:
No clue, either, but I have a funny thing, too: on one machine X11 starts with a black
screen without cursor and then waits till a mouse or keyboard occurs. Then it starts TDE
:)
Oh, just a hint: log into the machine via ssh, start htop or something simillar, then fire
up TDE. You most likely see what's causing the delay.
Nik
I've recently set up a new machine with TDE.
For reasons I can't figure
out, when I log into TDE on the new machine the startup screen needs about
4-5 seconds to get past the "Loading settings" step. On the old machine
this takes a split second, so on the new machine this is several times
slower. The new machine has a faster SDD and comparable CPU (more cores
than the old one, but that's probably not relevant here) so I don't see a
good reason why this is so slow. I know there is a setting in TCC to
disable configuration checking on login, which I did. It seems to
*sometimes* work, i.e. occasionally "Loading settings" will take a split
second, but for the most time it still takes 4-5 seconds. Does anyone have
a clue what's going on here?
Hi Janek,
Not exactly a clue, but it's generally not a good idea to turn off the
configuration checking on login. Take sip of your drink, get another cup of
coffee, but let it do it's thing so your system works correctly...
Best,
Michael
PS: The new(ish) TDE has a 'fixer' program that runs at login to do ??? (ask
a dev). It'll run each login until it's satisfied (mine ran 4 or 5 times
doing an upgrade from stretch/R14.06 to buster/R14.08).
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5:02 p.m.
On Tuesday 04 of August 2020 18:24:22 Michael wrote:
On Tuesday 04 August 2020 11:08:34 am Janek Stolarek
wrote:
Hi,
the mentioned checking / fixing program is not completely new. It is a part
of TDE from R14.0.0~pre. The principle is that the program runs only once
and if no new check / fix rule is added, it is not run again.
When the user logs in for the very first time, with a new profile, the
program will run for the first time. However, in such a situation there
should not be many tasks to be solved, so it should not be a delay.
Cheers
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I've recently set up a new machine with TDE.
For reasons I can't
figure out, when I log into TDE on the new machine the startup screen
needs about 4-5 seconds to get past the "Loading settings" step. On
the old machine this takes a split second, so on the new machine this
is several times slower. The new machine has a faster SDD and
comparable CPU (more cores than the old one, but that's probably not
relevant here) so I don't see a good reason why this is so slow. I
know there is a setting in TCC to disable configuration checking on
login, which I did. It seems to *sometimes* work, i.e. occasionally
"Loading settings" will take a split second, but for the most time it
still takes 4-5 seconds. Does anyone have a clue what's going on here?
Hi Janek,
Not exactly a clue, but it's generally not a good idea to turn off the
configuration checking on login. Take sip of your drink, get another
cup of coffee, but let it do it's thing so your system works
correctly...
Best,
Michael
PS: The new(ish) TDE has a 'fixer' program that runs at login to do ???
(ask a dev). It'll run each login until it's satisfied (mine ran 4 or 5
times doing an upgrade from stretch/R14.06 to buster/R14.08).
8:20 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Loading setting on logon takes long time
Hi,
the mentioned checking / fixing program is not completely new. It is a
part of TDE from R14.0.0~pre. The principle is that the program runs only
once and if no new check / fix rule is added, it is not run again.
When the user logs in for the very first time, with a new profile, the
program will run for the first time. However, in such a situation there
should not be many tasks to be solved, so it should not be a delay.
Cheers
Sorry to jump in between, but what does exactly mean:
Some Trinity profile R14 XDG compliance updates failed.
Check applications-tdemenuedit.menu for '<Filename>kde-' in
/var/tmp/tdecache-emanoil/r14-xdg-update-validation-test9.txt.
# cat /var/tmp/tdecache-emanoil/r14-xdg-update-validation-test9.txt
<Filename>kde-realplayer.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-aviplay.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-xmms.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-alevt.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-xawtv.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-javaws.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-knmap.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-GnomeICU.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-mozilla-firefox.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-eclipse.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-designer.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-linguist.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-assistant.desktop</Filename>
I'm getting it after each login recently - well I login very seldom, but
still - what is it?
I remember someone asked here before, but I can not find the answer.
thanks
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10:24 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Loading setting on logon takes long time
On Tuesday 04 August 2020 13:20:34 deloptes wrote:
Search for the thread with the heading "r14-xdg-update script problem"; the
issue is discussed rather at length.
These files need to have their entries for KDE (and any other intruders)
purged:
/home/<USER>/.config/menus/applications-tdemenuedit
/var/tmp/tdecache-<USER>/r14-xdg-update-validation-test9.txt
Somewhere I have buried more detailed instructions, how to remove/edit the
unwanted items, but this might be enough for you to work it out yourself. I
believe Michelle said that a little "housecleaning" is needed afterwards; in
my own case, some of my startup settings were lost, which was annoying but
unavoidable, and easy enough to restore.
Bill
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Hi,
the mentioned checking / fixing program is not completely new. It is a
part of TDE from R14.0.0~pre. The principle is that the program runs only
once and if no new check / fix rule is added, it is not run again.
When the user logs in for the very first time, with a new profile, the
program will run for the first time. However, in such a situation there
should not be many tasks to be solved, so it should not be a delay.
Cheers
Sorry to jump in between, but what does exactly mean:
Some Trinity profile R14 XDG compliance updates failed.
Check applications-tdemenuedit.menu for '<Filename>kde-' in
/var/tmp/tdecache-emanoil/r14-xdg-update-validation-test9.txt.
# cat /var/tmp/tdecache-emanoil/r14-xdg-update-validation-test9.txt
<Filename>kde-realplayer.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-aviplay.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-xmms.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-alevt.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-xawtv.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-javaws.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-knmap.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-GnomeICU.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-mozilla-firefox.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-eclipse.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-designer.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-linguist.desktop</Filename>
<Filename>kde-assistant.desktop</Filename>
I'm getting it after each login recently - well I login very seldom, but
still - what is it?
I remember someone asked here before, but I can not find the answer.
thanks
11:18 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: Re: Loading setting on logon takes long time
William Morder via trinity-users wrote:
Search for the thread with the heading
"r14-xdg-update script problem";
the issue is discussed rather at length.
These files need to have their entries for KDE (and any other intruders)
purged:
/home/<USER>/.config/menus/applications-tdemenuedit
/var/tmp/tdecache-<USER>/r14-xdg-update-validation-test9.txt
Somewhere I have buried more detailed instructions, how to remove/edit the
unwanted items, but this might be enough for you to work it out yourself.
I believe Michelle said that a little "housecleaning" is needed
afterwards; in my own case, some of my startup settings were lost, which
was annoying but unavoidable, and easy enough to restore.
yes, this is it. I was looking into ~/.trinity and forgot that xdg keeps its
stuff in ~/.config
thanks and regards
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8:17 p.m.
generally not a good idea to turn off the
configuration checking on login.
After some more experiments on both the old and the
new machine it seems that the configuration
checking option has no impact on the "Loading settings" step. Turning
configuration checking on
on the old machine does not make the login time longer, turning it off on the new machine
does
not make it faster.
I like Nik's idea with the SSH login but that will require some effort on my side to
set up.
Janek
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