Hello,
On a new Lenovo ThinkPad T440S I installed Trinity from exegnulinux_4.2.iso dated 24-Jul-2013. This is in addition to a preinstalled Windows 7 Professional. Running wicd does not detect any wireless networks, however, wicd in Trinity in my older laptop does detect them. And Windows in the ThinkPad also detects the networks, so wireless must be enabled. AND wicd doesn't even see a wired network when connected with a LAN cable.
Do I need to configure wicd? Or install from a newer image such as exegnu_wheezy_r14_26032014.iso? Or install (L|X)Ubuntu and set up Trinity on top of that?
Robert
You are missing the firmware for your wireless card. What type of card is it?
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On Sat, 5 Apr 2014, Robert Peters wrote:
Hello,
On a new Lenovo ThinkPad T440S I installed Trinity from exegnulinux_4.2.iso dated 24-Jul-2013. This is in addition to a preinstalled Windows 7 Professional. Running wicd does not detect any wireless networks, however, wicd in Trinity in my older laptop does detect them. And Windows in the ThinkPad also detects the networks, so wireless must be enabled. AND wicd doesn't even see a wired network when connected with a LAN cable.
Do I need to configure wicd? Or install from a newer image such as exegnu_wheezy_r14_26032014.iso? Or install (L|X)Ubuntu and set up Trinity on top of that?
Robert
a quick (and insufficient) reply:
you have to find out the kind of wifi card you've got installed, lspci is your friend here.
make sure to install the appropriate firmware, do a
apt-cache search firmware |grep wi
to see what you have available. you may have to go out and download something.
I had to go to broadcom to get my thinkpad x131e.
I also find the ceni networking tool is very helpful.
others can chime in but this may get you started. I'm in a hurry and hoped this would help since I figure you're in a hurry to get your wifi.
I wonder if you have a broadcom? you can look it up online too of course.
F.
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On 04/05/2014 03:59 PM, Robert Peters wrote:
Do I need to configure wicd?
In addition to firmware, you need to tell wicd where your wireless hardware is (usually wlan0). I'm sure there's some good reason why it can't find it without being told, but it's one of the reasons I'm not a fan of wicd. Bring up the main screen, go to Preferences, and you'll see where to put it.
It should see the wired interface, but that may be a firmware issue also.
I suggest you to start off a Ubuntu-based system (if you prefer Debian-like systems), because it come with more, and more up-to-date hardware drivers, firmwares and microcodes that are needed to get your hardware running. Maybe LUbuntu or XUbuntu could be a great choice for you? Then, installing TDE is pretty simple, just by following the instructions provided on trinitydesktop.org
Or you can fiddle around the web to find all the necessary blobs of firmwares and drivers to get Debian running as you want.
Good luck! -Alexandre
Thanks to everyone... lspci and apt-cache search show that a lot of firmware and drivers are missing. I'm going to install Lubuntu and take it from there. Robert
On 5 April 2014 16:52, Alexandre ac586133@hotmail.com wrote:
I suggest you to start off a Ubuntu-based system (if you prefer Debian-like systems), because it come with more, and more up-to-date hardware drivers, firmwares and microcodes that are needed to get your hardware running. Maybe LUbuntu or XUbuntu could be a great choice for you? Then, installing TDE is pretty simple, just by following the instructions provided on trinitydesktop.org
Or you can fiddle around the web to find all the necessary blobs of firmwares and drivers to get Debian running as you want.
Good luck! -Alexandre
Why not just install it from your current install? On Apr 5, 2014 8:18 PM, "Robert Peters" robertpeters9@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks to everyone... lspci and apt-cache search show that a lot of firmware and drivers are missing. I'm going to install Lubuntu and take it from there. Robert
On 5 April 2014 16:52, Alexandre ac586133@hotmail.com wrote:
I suggest you to start off a Ubuntu-based system (if you prefer
Debian-like
systems), because it come with more, and more up-to-date hardware
drivers,
firmwares and microcodes that are needed to get your hardware running.
Maybe
LUbuntu or XUbuntu could be a great choice for you? Then, installing TDE
is
pretty simple, just by following the instructions provided on trinitydesktop.org
Or you can fiddle around the web to find all the necessary blobs of firmwares and drivers to get Debian running as you want.
Good luck! -Alexandre
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On 5 April 2014 17:19, Calvin Morrison mutantturkey@gmail.com wrote:
Why not just install it from your current install?
On Apr 5, 2014 8:18 PM, "Robert Peters" robertpeters9@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks to everyone... lspci and apt-cache search show that a lot of firmware and drivers are missing. I'm going to install Lubuntu and take it from there. Robert
I'm hoping that Lubuntu will have enough drivers, etc to enable me to get online - either by wire or wireless.
On 04/05/2014 05:17 PM, Robert Peters wrote:
lspci and apt-cache search show that a lot of firmware and drivers are missing. I'm going to install Lubuntu and take it from there.
Another option would be Debian's live DVD with nonfree firmware:
http://live.debian.net/ http://live.debian.net/cdimage/release/stable+nonfree/
I usually start with the XFCE version, then install Trinity. It's nice to have XFCE available because it autodetects and installs printers. I wonder if Trinity could be made to do that?
On Saturday 05 April 2014 23:59:07 Robert Peters wrote:
AND wicd doesn't even see a wired network when connected with a LAN cable.
Did you reboot after plugging the cable in? Or restart the network by any other means?
Lisi
If you're getting something like a can't connect to d-bus error, try these commands, in order. This fixed me up three times, on two Mint 15 installs, and one of Ubuntu 13.04. It's been a recurring problem with new versions of wicd. (omit sudo and be su or root if not running Ubuntu).
sudo mv -v /etc/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.conf.backup
sudo ln -s /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.conf
sudo rm -v /var/lib/wicd/resolv.conf.orig
sudo service wicd start
To undo -
sudo mv -v /etc/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.conf.broken
then
sudo mv -v /etc/resolv.conf.backup /etc/resolv.conf
On 4/7/14, Lisi Reisz lisi.reisz@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday 05 April 2014 23:59:07 Robert Peters wrote:
AND wicd doesn't even see a wired network when connected with a LAN cable.
Did you reboot after plugging the cable in? Or restart the network by any other means?
Lisi
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On 7 April 2014 19:03, Chris Graham chrisdgraham22@gmail.com wrote:
If you're getting something like a can't connect to d-bus error, try these commands, in order. This fixed me up three times, on two Mint 15 installs, and one of Ubuntu 13.04. It's been a recurring problem with new versions of wicd. (omit sudo and be su or root if not running Ubuntu).
sudo mv -v /etc/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.conf.backup sudo ln -s /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.conf sudo rm -v /var/lib/wicd/resolv.conf.orig sudo service wicd start
To undo -
sudo mv -v /etc/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.conf.broken
then
sudo mv -v /etc/resolv.conf.backup /etc/resolv.conf
On 4/7/14, Lisi Reisz lisi.reisz@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday 05 April 2014 23:59:07 Robert Peters wrote:
AND wicd doesn't even see a wired network when connected with a LAN cable.
Did you reboot after plugging the cable in? Or restart the network by any other means?
Lisi
Thanks for all the help - I've been trying various things and will report later! - Robert
Another thought or two: In my experience some gtk versions of graphical frontends work better with Trinity than kde4 versions. Wicd has gtk and kde4 frontends.
Same thing is true of ubiquity installer frontends I use with Remastersys. In this case I had to modify the remastersys main script to prevent it from installing the kde4 frontend (which doesn't work with Trinity at all).
On 4/7/14, Robert Peters robertpeters9@gmail.com wrote:
On 7 April 2014 19:03, Chris Graham chrisdgraham22@gmail.com wrote:
If you're getting something like a can't connect to d-bus error, try these commands, in order. This fixed me up three times, on two Mint 15 installs, and one of Ubuntu 13.04. It's been a recurring problem with new versions of wicd. (omit sudo and be su or root if not running Ubuntu).
sudo mv -v /etc/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.conf.backup sudo ln -s /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.conf sudo rm -v /var/lib/wicd/resolv.conf.orig sudo service wicd start
To undo -
sudo mv -v /etc/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.conf.broken
then
sudo mv -v /etc/resolv.conf.backup /etc/resolv.conf
On 4/7/14, Lisi Reisz lisi.reisz@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday 05 April 2014 23:59:07 Robert Peters wrote:
AND wicd doesn't even see a wired network when connected with a LAN cable.
Did you reboot after plugging the cable in? Or restart the network by any other means?
Lisi
Thanks for all the help - I've been trying various things and will report later! - Robert
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On 8 April 2014 00:59, Chris Graham chrisdgraham22@gmail.com wrote:
Another thought or two: In my experience some gtk versions of graphical frontends work better with Trinity than kde4 versions. Wicd has gtk and kde4 frontends.
Same thing is true of ubiquity installer frontends I use with Remastersys. In this case I had to modify the remastersys main script to prevent it from installing the kde4 frontend (which doesn't work with Trinity at all).
Finally, to have Linux on the new laptop with working wifi, I installed Lubuntu. Added the Trinity repositories in order to bring in a few programs, but haven't been able to install the whole Trinity desktop. There are broken packages, maybe due to having to use the raring version in sources.list while the Lubuntu version is saucy. Oh well, I am travelling tomorrow but will have more questions in a few days... Robert
On 8 April 2014 09:26, Robert Peters robertpeters9@gmail.com wrote:
Finally, to have Linux on the new laptop with working wifi, I installed Lubuntu. Added the Trinity repositories in order to bring in a few programs, but haven't been able to install the whole Trinity desktop. There are broken packages, maybe due to having to use the raring version in sources.list while the Lubuntu version is saucy. Oh well, I am travelling tomorrow but will have more questions in a few days... Robert
Travelling done. Now for the jet lag...
In sources.list I updated all the repository (except for Trinity) versions to saucy. This fixed the broken packages problem, and I installed many key Trinity pkgs. But maybe not enough or not the right ones. I (foolishly) chose kdm-trinity as the desktop on next login - and haven't been able to boot into Linux since.
Now I want to reset the desktop default to Lubuntu LXDE and get back in to install things properly. Some questions: 1 - how to access the HDD from a live session running off a USB? 1a - changing the desktop default - I think it's in .xinitrc or a related file? 2 - in some detail, what needs installing to make sure the next startup will work and display the Trinity desktop?
Thanks again - Robert
On Mon, 7 Apr 2014, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Saturday 05 April 2014 23:59:07 Robert Peters wrote:
AND wicd doesn't even see a wired network when connected with a LAN cable.
Did you reboot after plugging the cable in? Or restart the network by any other means?
You do not need to. wicd should just find the new ethernet cable connection. I run wicd under Trinity on a netbook.
Jonesy