29 Nov
2015
29 Nov
'15
10:48 a.m.
To the hardworking Devs and ISO-builders,
Please, that's pretty please with sugar on top, can we have
hybrid .ISOs for the expected new batch of live CDs/DVDs with TDE
R14.0.2?? My reasons for asking ....
1. Many modern PCs and most laptop/netbooks do not have an optical
drive.
2. I know there are utilities for writing an ISO to a USB-stick but
they are not particularly user-friendly. eg. unetbootin is a total
PITA. Besides a simple "sudo dd if=path-to-hybrid of=/dev/usb-stick"
is trivial and works as expected.
3. Boot and run from a USB-stick is much faster than any CD/DVD so
demonstrating to potential new adopters is a better experience.
Thanks in antic,
Glen
29 Nov
29 Nov
9:51 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Hybrid Live Images
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To the hardworking Devs and ISO-builders,
Please, that's pretty please with sugar on top, can we have
hybrid .ISOs for the expected new batch of live CDs/DVDs with TDE
R14.0.2?? My reasons for asking ....
1. Many modern PCs and most laptop/netbooks do not have an optical
drive.
2. I know there are utilities for writing an ISO to a USB-stick but
they are not particularly user-friendly. eg. unetbootin is a total
PITA. Besides a simple "sudo dd if=path-to-hybrid of=/dev/usb-stick"
is trivial and works as expected.
3. Boot and run from a USB-stick is much faster than any CD/DVD so
demonstrating to potential new adopters is a better experience.
Thanks in antic,
Glen
Do you have a link to how to build the hybrid images (from the command
line is preferred)? I haven't looked into that technology as I tend to
build live USB images with unetbootin.
Thanks!
Tim
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10:14 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Hybrid Live Images
Am Sonntag, 29. November 2015 schrieb Timothy Pearson:
Hi Tim!
This might be a pointer to the right direction (but I never used it):
http://www.syslinux.org/wiki/index.php/Isohybrid
Nik
To the
hardworking Devs and ISO-builders,
Please, that's pretty please with sugar on top, can we have
hybrid .ISOs for the expected new batch of live CDs/DVDs with TDE
R14.0.2?? My reasons for asking ....
1. Many modern PCs and most laptop/netbooks do not have an optical
drive.
2. I know there are utilities for writing an ISO to a USB-stick but
they are not particularly user-friendly. eg. unetbootin is a total
PITA. Besides a simple "sudo dd if=path-to-hybrid of=/dev/usb-stick"
is trivial and works as expected.
3. Boot and run from a USB-stick is much faster than any CD/DVD so
demonstrating to potential new adopters is a better experience.
Thanks in antic,
Glen
Do you have a link to how to build the hybrid images (from the command
line is preferred)? I haven't looked into that technology as I tend to
build live USB images with unetbootin.
Thanks!
Tim 
10:50 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Hybrid Live Images
For Debian you can use Debian Live (1) (which is currently undergoing
transformation) to build regular live images or iso-hybrid images. With
Debian Live I recommend actually installing it (live-build) onto your
machine and building the live images on your own machines. The build
service is going to be shut down (probably today or tomorrow). I,
personally, use Debian Live to build my iso-hybrid images the only issue is
it doesn't, yet, work with UEFI but that is being worked on as we speak.
You could also use Refracta (2). I've never used it so I can't comment on
its usefulness.
(1) http://live.debian.net/
(2) http://www.ibiblio.org/refracta/
On 30 November 2015 at 09:14, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp <office(a)klepp.biz> wrote:
Am Sonntag, 29. November 2015 schrieb Timothy
Pearson:
Hi Tim!
This might be a pointer to the right direction (but I never used it):
http://www.syslinux.org/wiki/index.php/Isohybrid
Nik
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To the
hardworking Devs and ISO-builders,
Please, that's pretty please with sugar on top, can we have
hybrid .ISOs for the expected new batch of live CDs/DVDs with TDE
R14.0.2?? My reasons for asking ....
1. Many modern PCs and most laptop/netbooks do not have an optical
drive.
2. I know there are utilities for writing an ISO to a USB-stick but
they are not particularly user-friendly. eg. unetbootin is a total
PITA. Besides a simple "sudo dd if=path-to-hybrid of=/dev/usb-stick"
is trivial and works as expected.
3. Boot and run from a USB-stick is much faster than any CD/DVD so
demonstrating to potential new adopters is a better experience.
Thanks in antic,
Glen
Do you have a link to how to build the hybrid images (from the command
line is preferred)? I haven't looked into that technology as I tend to
build live USB images with unetbootin.
Thanks!
Tim
10:35 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Hybrid Live Images
On Monday 30 November 2015 08:51:05 Timothy Pearson wrote:
Do you
have a link to how to build the hybrid images (from the
command line is preferred)?
<https://www.turnkeylinux.org/blog/iso2usb> works for me when using an
up-to-date distro. Required packages not available on my "production"
boxes. :-(
Cheers,
Glen
10:42 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Hybrid Live Images
On Sunday 29 of November 2015 22:51:05 Timothy Pearson wrote:
I'm in my script simply run on final iso file:
isohybrid $TREE/../tde-$TDE-ubuntu-$UBUNTU-desktop-$ARCH.iso
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Slávek
To the
hardworking Devs and ISO-builders,
Please, that's pretty please with sugar on top, can we have
hybrid .ISOs for the expected new batch of live CDs/DVDs with TDE
R14.0.2?? My reasons for asking ....
1. Many modern PCs and most laptop/netbooks do not have an optical
drive.
2. I know there are utilities for writing an ISO to a USB-stick but
they are not particularly user-friendly. eg. unetbootin is a total
PITA. Besides a simple "sudo dd if=path-to-hybrid of=/dev/usb-stick"
is trivial and works as expected.
3. Boot and run from a USB-stick is much faster than any CD/DVD so
demonstrating to potential new adopters is a better experience.
Thanks in antic,
Glen
Do you have a link to how to build the hybrid images (from the command
line is preferred)? I haven't looked into that technology as I tend to
build live USB images with unetbootin.
Thanks!
Tim
30 Nov
30 Nov
12:14 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Hybrid Live Images
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On Sunday 29 of November 2015 22:51:05 Timothy Pearson
wrote:
I'm in my script simply run on final iso file:
isohybrid $TREE/../tde-$TDE-ubuntu-$UBUNTU-desktop-$ARCH.iso
--
Slávek
This sounds like the easiest solution; I'll look into activating this on
the CD builder.
Thanks all!
Tim
To the
hardworking Devs and ISO-builders,
Please, that's pretty please with sugar on top, can we have
hybrid .ISOs for the expected new batch of live CDs/DVDs with TDE
R14.0.2?? My reasons for asking ....
1. Many modern PCs and most laptop/netbooks do not have an optical
drive.
2. I know there are utilities for writing an ISO to a USB-stick
but
they are not particularly user-friendly. eg.
unetbootin is a total
PITA. Besides a simple "sudo dd if=path-to-hybrid of=/dev/usb-stick"
is trivial and works as expected.
3. Boot and run from a USB-stick is much faster than any CD/DVD so
demonstrating to potential new adopters is a better experience.
Thanks in antic,
Glen
Do you have a link to how to build the hybrid images (from the command
line is preferred)? I haven't looked into that technology as I tend to
build live USB images with unetbootin.
Thanks!
Tim
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3:58 a.m.
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This has now been enabled on the nightly build LiveCDs, and will be part
of the next TDE release. As a reminder, nightly builds, embedded system
images, and nightly LiveCDs are available exclusively to developers and
financial supporters of the TDE project.
Thanks,
Tim
On Sunday 29 of November 2015 22:51:05 Timothy
Pearson wrote:
I'm in my script simply run on final iso file:
isohybrid $TREE/../tde-$TDE-ubuntu-$UBUNTU-desktop-$ARCH.iso
--
Slávek
This sounds like the easiest solution; I'll look into activating this on
the CD builder.
Thanks all!
Tim To the
hardworking Devs and ISO-builders,
Please, that's pretty please with sugar on top, can we have
hybrid .ISOs for the expected new batch of live CDs/DVDs with TDE
R14.0.2?? My reasons for asking ....
1. Many modern PCs and most laptop/netbooks do not have an
optical
drive.
2. I know there are utilities for writing an ISO to a USB-stick
but
they are not particularly user-friendly. eg.
unetbootin is a total
PITA. Besides a simple "sudo dd if=path-to-hybrid of=/dev/usb-stick"
is trivial and works as expected.
3. Boot and run from a USB-stick is much faster than any CD/DVD
so
demonstrating to potential new adopters is a
better experience.
Thanks in antic,
Glen
Do you have a link to how to build the hybrid images (from the command
line is preferred)? I haven't looked into that technology as I tend to
build live USB images with unetbootin.
Thanks!
Tim
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12:52 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Hybrid Live Images
> On Sunday 29 of November 2015 22:51:05 Timothy
Pearson wrote:
>> > To the hardworking Devs and ISO-builders,
>> > Please, that's pretty please with sugar on top, can we have
>> > hybrid .ISOs for the expected new batch of live CDs/DVDs with TDE
>> > R14.0.2?? My reasons for asking ....
>> > 1. Many modern PCs and most laptop/netbooks do not have an
>> optical
>> > drive.
>> > 2. I know there are utilities for writing an ISO to a USB-stick
>> but
>> > they are not particularly user-friendly. eg. unetbootin is a total
>> > PITA. Besides a simple "sudo dd if=path-to-hybrid
of=/dev/usb-stick"
>> > is trivial and works as expected.
>> > 3. Boot and run from a USB-stick is much faster than any CD/DVD
>> so
>> > demonstrating to potential new adopters is a better experience.
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks in antic,
>> > Glen
Hi all,
Just want to say that now you can buy on ebay an external USB DVD drive-burner for
15-20$.
As a long-time Asus EEE user, I found it to be really useful. But, it is true that LiveCD
are sometimes painfully slow to use on real CD drive.
While UnetBootIn does not work always on first try, I have yet to see it fail completely.
I see that if I don't use the computer at all while UnetBootIn works, I get better
results, but the same goes for dd too.
Have a great day!
-Alexandre
1:06 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Hybrid Live Images
On Monday 30 November 2015 13:00:26 Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Monday 30 November 2015 12:52:16 Alexandre wrote:
To be fair, the one I had trouble with most recently won't boot from a USB key
either. :-(
Lisi
Just want to say that now you can buy on ebay an
external USB DVD
drive-burner for 15-20$.
Great, when they work. not everything will boot from them.
Lisi
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1:08 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Hybrid Live Images
On Monday 30 November 2015 13:00:26 Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Monday 30 November 2015 12:52:16 Alexandre wrote:
The problem laptop would boot from an expensive powered USB optical drive, and
a USB hard drive.
Just want to say that now you can buy on ebay an
external USB DVD
drive-burner for 15-20$.
Great, when they work. not everything will boot from them.
2:27 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Hybrid Live Images
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De : Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz(a)gmail.com>
Envoyé : 30 novembre 2015 08:08
À : trinity-users(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net
Objet : Re: [trinity-users] Hybrid Live Images
On Monday 30 November 2015 13:00:26 Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Monday 30 November 2015 12:52:16 Alexandre wrote:
The problem laptop would boot from an expensive powered USB optical drive, and
a USB hard drive.
Hi Lisi,
Almost everything will boot from external USB dvd drive, except maybe if you're
talking about launching a Win 98 install, or old Debian.
The problem you're seeing is when the USB ports of the computer can't supply
enough power by itself to make the drive work properly. Nowadays, most drives can work
properly with either 1 USB port, or by adding (included with the drive) a second USB plug
to supply more power to the drive.
Have a great day!
-Alexandre
Just want to say that now you can buy on ebay an
external USB DVD
drive-burner for 15-20$.
Great, when they work. not everything will boot from them.
6:02 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Hybrid Live Images
On Monday 30 November 2015 14:27:31 Alexandre wrote:
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De : Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz(a)gmail.com>
Envoyé : 30 novembre 2015 08:08
À : trinity-users(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net
Objet : Re: [trinity-users] Hybrid Live Images
On Monday 30 November 2015 13:00:26 Lisi Reisz wrote:
Not in this case. The BIOS wouldn't wait for something to be read. It could
only read off something that was already available before the BIOS looked for
it. So the CD/DVD had to have been spun up in advance of the laptop's being
turned on, which meant that it had to be separately powered. A solid state
hard drive does not have to spin up and can be read immediately.
Lisi
On Monday 30 November 2015 12:52:16 Alexandre
wrote:
The problem laptop would boot from an expensive powered USB optical drive,
and a USB hard drive.
Hi Lisi,
Almost everything will boot from external USB dvd drive, except maybe if
you're talking about launching a Win 98 install, or old Debian. The problem
you're seeing is when the USB ports of the computer can't supply enough
power by itself to make the drive work properly. Nowadays, most drives can
work properly with either 1 USB port, or by adding (included with the
drive) a second USB plug to supply more power to the drive. Just want to say that now you can buy on ebay an
external USB DVD
drive-burner for 15-20$.
Great, when they work. not everything will boot from them.
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