Somewhat just playing at this point, but I also saw KWeather and wanted to see what it did. But, while tdetoys-trinity is installed, most of its apps aren't? I can't see that I'd have ever manually remove any of the ones not showing up. (Besides that'd uninstall tdetoys, yes?) Do these just no longer exist? If it's relevant: - This system was built with a clean install last July, MX19/TDE 14.0.8 - I just upgraded TDE to 14.0.9 this morning Best, Michael The ones that resolve by 'which' below are the only ones in my Toys menu as well. {snipping stuff} michael@local [~/common]# aptitude show tdetoys-trinity Package: tdetoys-trinity Version: 4:14.0.9-0debian10.0.0+0 State: installed Automatically installed: yes Depends: amor-trinity (>= 4:14.0.9-0debian10.0.0+0), eyesapplet-trinity (>= 4:14.0.9-0debian10.0.0+0), fifteenapplet-trinity (>= 4:14.0.9-0debian10.0.0+0), kmoon-trinity (>= 4:14.0.9-0debian10.0.0+0), kodo-trinity (>= 4:14.0.9-0debian10.0.0+0), kteatime-trinity (>= 4:14.0.9-0debian10.0.0+0), ktux-trinity (>= 4:14.0.9-0debian10.0.0+0), kweather-trinity (>= 4:14.0.9-0debian10.0.0+0), kworldclock-trinity (>= 4:14.0.9-0debian10.0.0+0) michael@local [~/common]# which kworldclock /opt/trinity/bin/kworldclock michael@local [~/common]# which kweather michael@local [~/common]# which fifteenapplet michael@local [~/common]# which kmoon michael@local [~/common]# which amor /opt/trinity/bin/amor michael@local [~/common]# which eyesapplet michael@local [~/common]# which kodo /opt/trinity/bin/kodo michael@local [~/common]# which kteatime /opt/trinity/bin/kteatime ____________________________________________________