Greets, everybody . . .
I have a need to scan in a bunch of pictures and documents using my Epson photo scanner. As is not unexpected, the reasonably good Epson-supplied scanning software core dumps. So I've looked at the other installed scanning software, which is xsane, which kinda-sorta works, Simple Scan, ditto, and Kooka, almost ditto.
Kooka shows some hope, but it seems really flaky. For a start, it wants to put scans in "Kooka Gallery," but there is none such on my machine, so I can't tell where the hell it's putting them, though it seems to be saving them somewhere. I decided to RTFM, and right from the start, the screen shown does not at all resemble the Kooka I am running. I thought it might help to nuke ~.config/kookarc, but there isn't one.
Has anybody used it? I would consider VueScan, which by all accounts is excellent but which is $150, and that sucks.
On Wed September 17 2025 00:06:17 dep via tde-users wrote:
I have a need to scan in a bunch of pictures and documents using my Epson photo scanner. As is not unexpected, the reasonably good Epson-supplied scanning software core dumps. So I've looked at the other installed scanning software, which is xsane, which kinda-sorta works, Simple Scan, ditto, and Kooka, almost ditto.
Kooka shows some hope, but it seems really flaky. For a start, it wants to put scans in "Kooka Gallery," but there is none such on my machine, so I can't tell where the hell it's putting them, though it seems to be saving them somewhere. I decided to RTFM, and right from the start, the screen shown does not at all resemble the Kooka I am running. I thought it might help to nuke ~.config/kookarc, but there isn't one.
Has anybody used it? I would consider VueScan, which by all accounts is excellent but which is $150, and that sucks.
FWIW I gave up scanning with software from my HP printer/scanner and now I just scan to a USB stick and then mount the USB stick in my laptop.
--Mike
On 9/17/25 04:04, Mike Bird via tde-users wrote:
On Wed September 17 2025 00:06:17 dep via tde-users wrote:
I have a need to scan in a bunch of pictures and documents using my Epson photo scanner. As is not unexpected, the reasonably good Epson-supplied scanning software core dumps. So I've looked at the other installed scanning software, which is xsane, which kinda-sorta works, Simple Scan, ditto, and Kooka, almost ditto.
Kooka shows some hope, but it seems really flaky. For a start, it wants to put scans in "Kooka Gallery," but there is none such on my machine, so I can't tell where the hell it's putting them, though it seems to be saving them somewhere. I decided to RTFM, and right from the start, the screen shown does not at all resemble the Kooka I am running. I thought it might help to nuke ~.config/kookarc, but there isn't one.
Has anybody used it? I would consider VueScan, which by all accounts is excellent but which is $150, and that sucks.
FWIW I gave up scanning with software from my HP printer/scanner and now I just scan to a USB stick and then mount the USB stick in my laptop.
While I scan using xscan and the brother driver for my elderly MFC-J6920DW, a fast inkjet printer that can handle tabloid sized materiel in both printer and scanner with an adf, getting copies on photo paper I can't tell from the original. Brother stuff, using brothers linux drivers, just works for every feature advertised on the box. But you must remove cups-browsed as it overrides the brother drivers.
--Mike
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On Wednesday 17 September 2025 09:06:17 dep via tde-users wrote:
Kooka shows some hope, but it seems really flaky. For a start, it wants to put scans in "Kooka Gallery," but there is none such on my machine, so I can't tell where the hell it's putting them
.trinity/share/apps/ScanImages
quite unusual place, but one I made a link from that to some more usual place it works.
Has anybody used it? I would consider VueScan, which by all accounts is excellent but which is $150, and that sucks.
It may depend on the scanner. Epson Perfection V39/GT-S650 here. Vuescan (I have an oooold license, would not pay again) requires some Epson driver that did not work on my machine.
Kooka works. I mostly use the Epson Scan 2 however. I don't use the flat scanner much, mostly a ScanSnap which does scan groups of pages.
Thierry
On 17/09/2025 10:54, Thierry de Coulon via tde-users wrote:
On Wednesday 17 September 2025 09:06:17 dep via tde-users wrote:
Kooka shows some hope, but it seems really flaky. For a start, it wants to put scans in "Kooka Gallery," but there is none such on my machine, so I can't tell where the hell it's putting them
.trinity/share/apps/ScanImages
quite unusual place, but one I made a link from that to some more usual place it works.
Has anybody used it? I would consider VueScan, which by all accounts is excellent but which is $150, and that sucks.
It may depend on the scanner. Epson Perfection V39/GT-S650 here. Vuescan (I have an oooold license, would not pay again) requires some Epson driver that did not work on my machine.
I have something similar. Epson have updated the driver packages for Linux. It is worth persevering. If the Epson utility does not work then I doubt if the Vuescan will either. ldd is your friend for finding missing library dependancies.
http://download.ebz.epson.net/dsc/search/01/search/searchModule
Kooka works. I mostly use the Epson Scan 2 however. I don't use the flat scanner much, mostly a ScanSnap which does scan groups of pages.
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Sorry for top post.
It's not a driver issue -- all the xsane stuff works fine with the scanner, a v600 photo. It's configuring Kooka to arrive at a sensible workflow, which is easy with the Epson software and which probably could be sorta easy with Kooka. Part of the problem is that Kooka puts things in places you'd never look. Understandable in that nobody seems to have gone over it in >20 years. And uses what look like editable text boxes that aren't, with the things you'd edit there off in the file menu. Wish I could turn off about half of it -- what good is a thumbnails box in a scanning program? Totally nutty UI design. And putting the scans in a hidden directory??? But it will let you throw the scans to GIMP, which is something. And I guess I can make the hidden scans directory a symlink to something sensible, though it ought to be editable in the settings. As should turning off whatever makes the scan the size of a basketball court when you scan at fairly high resolution. But as I said, it's been what it is for a very long time -- longer than xsane has supported Epson anything -- so I have no room to complain.
The argument for VueScan is that it lets you do really fine tuning. With Kooka, I'll need to mash it down as gray as possible and sort it out in GIMP, so I don't lose highlight or shadow detail. (The Epson software, when it runs, has defaults for the scanner that are very close, as it should.)
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-------- Original Message -------- On 9/17/25 05:09, Martin Hodges via tde-users users@trinitydesktop.org wrote:
On 17/09/2025 10:54, Thierry de Coulon via tde-users wrote:
On Wednesday 17 September 2025 09:06:17 dep via tde-users wrote:
Kooka shows some hope, but it seems really flaky. For a start, it wants to put scans in "Kooka Gallery," but there is none such on my machine, so I can't tell where the hell it's putting them
.trinity/share/apps/ScanImages
quite unusual place, but one I made a link from that to some more usual place it works.
Has anybody used it? I would consider VueScan, which by all accounts is excellent but which is $150, and that sucks.
It may depend on the scanner. Epson Perfection V39/GT-S650 here. Vuescan (I have an oooold license, would not pay again) requires some Epson driver that did not work on my machine.
I have something similar. Epson have updated the driver packages for Linux. It is worth persevering. If the Epson utility does not work then I doubt if the Vuescan will either. ldd is your friend for finding missing library dependancies.
http://download.ebz.epson.net/dsc/search/01/search/searchModule
Kooka works. I mostly use the Epson Scan 2 however. I don't use the flat scanner much, mostly a ScanSnap which does scan groups of pages.
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dep via tde-users wrote:
Greets, everybody . . .
I have a need to scan in a bunch of pictures and documents using my Epson photo scanner. As is not unexpected, the reasonably good Epson-supplied scanning software core dumps. So I've looked at the other installed scanning software, which is xsane, which kinda-sorta works, Simple Scan, ditto, and Kooka, almost ditto.
Hi, I have an Epson scanner (Epson_33_-_330) and I use iscan-2.30.4-2. I have patched the source code and it is working perfectly well (currently Debian 12). I am not sure if your scanner is compatible, but it could be worth to try.
If so, ping me on deloptes at gmail.com
BR
said deloptes via tde-users:
| Hi, | I have an Epson scanner (Epson_33_-_330) and I use iscan-2.30.4-2. I | have patched the source code and it is working perfectly well (currently | Debian 12). | I am not sure if your scanner is compatible, but it could be worth to | try. | | If so, ping me on deloptes at gmail.com
iscan doesn't work here anymore. I think it's been totally replaced by Epsonscan2. Which does this:
$ epsonscan2 terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::logic_error' what(): basic_string::_S_construct null not valid Aborted (core dumped)
said deloptes via tde-users:
| I have an Epson scanner (Epson_33_-_330) and I use iscan-2.30.4-2. I | have patched the source code and it is working perfectly well (currently | Debian 12). | I am not sure if your scanner is compatible, but it could be worth to | try. | | If so, ping me on deloptes at gmail.com
I take it back -- iscan's latest version seems to work just fine. Wonder why they maintain isan *and* Epsonscan2 for Linux. I mean beyond the apparent fact that only one of them works . . .
Thanks very much! I'll save my concerns with Kooka for another day.
On 9/18/25 01:47, deloptes via tde-users users@trinitydesktop.org wrote:
dep via tde-users wrote:
Wonder why they maintain isan *and* Epsonscan2 for Linux. I mean beyond the apparent fact that only one of them works . . .
because probably what is working for you, is not working for someone else and vice versa.
To make up for it, they provide support for neither.
Anyway, the current iscan is an improvement on the earlier versions where you needed to run lsusb to get the parameters to use in starting it from a command prompt, which was the only way to do it. (I think; never tried it from the alt-F1 prompt.)
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It's not clear to me whether I'm too late with this suggestion, but in case it is not, see below...
On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 07:06 (+0000), dep via tde-users wrote:
Greets, everybody . . .
I have a need to scan in a bunch of pictures and documents using my Epson photo scanner. As is not unexpected, the reasonably good Epson-supplied scanning software core dumps. So I've looked at the other installed scanning software, which is xsane, which kinda-sorta works, Simple Scan, ditto, and Kooka, almost ditto.
Kooka shows some hope, but it seems really flaky. For a start, it wants to put scans in "Kooka Gallery," but there is none such on my machine, so I can't tell where the hell it's putting them, though it seems to be saving them somewhere.
When faced with such a problem, try this (1) Open a terminal window (2) Run the command touch /tmp/whereami (3) Scan something and save the scan (4) In the terminal window type find ~ -newer /tmp/whereami
You may have some other program running which are gratuitously updating files all the time (web browsers, I'm thinking of you), but if you do these steps in short order, you should be able to pick your new scan out of the (small) crowd.
IIRC you mentioned in another message that the Epson scanner software is giving you grief. A long time ago I had an Epson scanner (two, actually, one at work and one at home) and they both performed admirably. It is too bad if the Epson scanner software is not cooperating for you. But if xsane is not working well for you, maybe if you say what specifically is going wrong someone here can help you.
Jim
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