13 Feb
2022
13 Feb
'22
3:48 p.m.
I know we allready has this in some way.
I now have a new-old (mean second hand) Lenovo X1 Tablet (because I need the
touchscreen).
Installing MX-Linux " TDE was quite easy and, so far, everything runs fine (I
have not tried sleep/hibernate yet).
The machine has a (nice) display with a 3000x2000 resolution. Xfce takes care
of this with a gtk setting that lets "multiply" everything by two.
So far I have "adapted" TDE by choosing bigger icons. I seem to remeber there
was some other place where I could also make things bigger - I'll find it.
Just wanted to know if anyone with experience with such a display has
developped a "good" way to scale Trinity.
Thierry
13 Feb
13 Feb
5:32 p.m.
On Sunday 13 February 2022 07:48:43 Thierry de Coulon wrote:
I know we allready has this in some way.
I now have a new-old (mean second hand) Lenovo X1 Tablet (because I need
the touchscreen).
Installing MX-Linux " TDE was quite easy and, so far, everything runs fine
(I have not tried sleep/hibernate yet).
The machine has a (nice) display with a 3000x2000 resolution. Xfce takes
care of this with a gtk setting that lets "multiply" everything by two.
So far I have "adapted" TDE by choosing bigger icons. I seem to remeber
there was some other place where I could also make things bigger - I'll
find it.
Just wanted to know if anyone with experience with such a display has
developped a "good" way to scale Trinity.
Thierry
It sounds like you mean changing the size of the display itself?
If you run the command tderandrtray (Trinity resize and rotate), you will find
an icon added to your task bar. That will give you give quick access to your
settings.
Otherwise, you can find it in Trinity Control Center:
TCC / Peripherals / Display / Size & Orientation.
Bill
5:42 p.m.
Anno domini 2022 Sun, 13 Feb 09:32:10 -0800
William Morder via tde-users scripsit:
On Sunday 13 February 2022 07:48:43 Thierry de Coulon wrote:
Or maybe change the DPI settings in appearence/fonts ?
Nik
I know we allready has this in some way.
I now have a new-old (mean second hand) Lenovo X1 Tablet (because I need
the touchscreen).
Installing MX-Linux " TDE was quite easy and, so far, everything runs fine
(I have not tried sleep/hibernate yet).
The machine has a (nice) display with a 3000x2000 resolution. Xfce takes
care of this with a gtk setting that lets "multiply" everything by two.
So far I have "adapted" TDE by choosing bigger icons. I seem to remeber
there was some other place where I could also make things bigger - I'll
find it.
Just wanted to know if anyone with experience with such a display has
developped a "good" way to scale Trinity.
Thierry
It sounds like you mean changing the size of the display itself?
If you run the command tderandrtray (Trinity resize and rotate), you will find
an icon added to your task bar. That will give you give quick access to your
settings.
Otherwise, you can find it in Trinity Control Center:
TCC / Peripherals / Display / Size & Orientation.
Bill
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14 Feb
14 Feb
11:27 a.m.
On Sunday 13 February 2022 18.42:44 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> If you run the command tderandrtray (Trinity
resize and rotate), you will
> find an icon added to your task bar. That will give you give quick access
> to your settings.
I wonder, what's the difference between tderandrtray and xrandr.
I can modify the size of what is shown on my screen with xrandr ans --scale.
Works well, but if I understand right this will "multiply" the pixels for all
apps I run, which quite negates the advantages (if any) of a 3000x2000
screen.
I can set the resolution to 1680x1050 in tderanrtray. Result seems about the
same. So tderandrtray is "simply" a TDE front end to xrandr?
Thierry
5:27 p.m.
On Monday 14 February 2022 03:27:20 Thierry de Coulon wrote:
On Sunday 13 February 2022 18.42:44 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
wrote:
Instead of "simply", I would say "probably" or "maybe":
others will have to
answer that question. Many more options are available in xrandr than in
tderandrtray.
This is a way to enlarge everything in your display, yes, but at the sacrifice
of changing the aspect ratio.
I have the same problem with old eyes, but small icons, etc., don't bother me
so much; it's small letters or some programs that insist on falling back to
Gnome or KDE5 color schemes and can't be changed, so that some stuff isn't
easily visible to me.
Since I copy my home folder back and forth between my laptop and desktop
computers sometimes, I like to keep settings mostly unchanged. In an ideal
world, I would keep the laptop only for travel, or for when I do research in
a library, etc., and I would always work at a proper desk with my desktop
computer and its large screen.
When I move over to the laptop, I change visibility for each item
individually, on an ad hoc basis; e.g., for browser windows by using CTRL+
and CTRL-, and enlarging my media players to double size, etc., rather than
trying to enlarge everything with a single solution.
One could of course go through everything in the system that affects display,
and enlarge the taskbar and clock, and by changing font sizes in every
program. But if, like myself, you try to keep your settings the same, so that
you can use the same desktop on different machines, then you don't want to
make permanent changes.
It may be that there is a better way; if so, I would be glad to know of it
myself.
Bill
> If you run the command tderandrtray (Trinity
resize and rotate), you
> will find an icon added to your task bar. That will give you give quick
> access to your settings.
I wonder, what's the difference between tderandrtray and xrandr.
I can modify the size of what is shown on my screen with xrandr ans
--scale. Works well, but if I understand right this will "multiply" the
pixels for all apps I run, which quite negates the advantages (if any) of a
3000x2000 screen.
I can set the resolution to 1680x1050 in tderanrtray. Result seems about
the same. So tderandrtray is "simply" a TDE front end to xrandr?
Thierry 
8:08 a.m.
On Tuesday 15 February 2022 01.40:41 Michele Calgaro via tde-users wrote:
Hi Michele
tderandrtray provides an easy to use interface for
xrandr. It uses xrandr
behind the scenes. Cheers
Michele
Thanks. It has the advantage over xrandr that I can switch from one resolution
to another.
However I don't seem to be able to set tderandrtray to always start at
anything but maximum resolution (3000x2000). I've tried to do something with
profiles but I get weird colours when I try to activate a profile...
Thierry
8:28 a.m.
Thierry de Coulon wrote:
However I don't seem to be able to set
tderandrtray to always start at
anything but maximum resolution (3000x2000). I've tried to do something
with profiles but I get weird colours when I try to activate a profile...
same experience here (although I was not trying to set higher resolutions)
8:44 a.m.
Thierry de Coulon composed on 2022-02-15 09:08 (UTC+0100):
Michele Calgaro via tde-users wrote:
> tderandrtray provides an easy to use interface for
xrandr. It uses xrandr
> behind the scenes. Cheers
Thanks. It has the advantage over xrandr that I can
switch from one resolution
to another.
However I don't seem to be able to set
tderandrtray to always start at
anything but maximum resolution (3000x2000). I've tried to do something with
profiles but I get weird colours when I try to activate a profile...
xrandr always works for me for selecting alternate resolutions, though my single
display maximum is 2560x1440. My xrandr scripts go in /etc/X11/*, where exactly
depending on distro.
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13 Feb
13 Feb
5:44 p.m.
On Sunday 13 February 2022 18.32:10 William Morder via tde-users wrote:
It sounds like you mean changing the size of the
display itself?
I'll take a look. I mean making everything bigger on the desktop (as my old
eyes can't really read those tiny characters at 3000x2000).
gtk obviously has a way to "double" everything. On TDE I've changed
"Force
fonts DPI" from 96 to 192 and it globaly works well. Fonts in the TDE "start
menu" still are tiny, but as I put the icons to start most important things
in kicker I could live with it.
I'm still testing various settings in "Fonts" to see what it changes.
Thierry
5:50 p.m.
Anno domini 2022 Sun, 13 Feb 18:44:17 +0100
Thierry de Coulon scripsit:
On Sunday 13 February 2022 18.32:10 William Morder via
tde-users wrote:
I found that changing the DPI settings to anything different than 96 gives interesting
results. Especially GTK does funny things with fonts.
Nik
It sounds like you mean changing the size of the
display itself?
I'll take a look. I mean making everything bigger on the desktop (as my old
eyes can't really read those tiny characters at 3000x2000).
gtk obviously has a way to "double" everything. On TDE I've changed
"Force
fonts DPI" from 96 to 192 and it globaly works well. Fonts in the TDE "start
menu" still are tiny, but as I put the icons to start most important things
in kicker I could live with it.
I'm still testing various settings in "Fonts" to see what it changes.
Thierry
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6:10 p.m.
On Sunday 13 February 2022 18:32:10 William Morder via tde-users wrote:
......
It sounds like you mean changing the size of the
display itself ?
If you run the command tderandrtray (Trinity resize
and rotate), you will find
an icon added to your task bar. That will give you give quick access to your
settings.
Hello,
# tderandrtray (root or user)
the result :
"[FIXME] UNCLASSIFIED DEVICE name: 0000:00:16.0-05b79a6f-4628-4d7f-899d-a91514cb32ab
type: (null)
subsystem: mei driver: mei_wdt [Node Path: (null)] [Syspath: /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000
and many lines "[FIXME] UNCLASSIFIED DEVICE",
And no icon added to my task bar
Cheers
André
> Otherwise, you can find it in Trinity Control Center:
> TCC / Peripherals / Display / Size & Orientation.
6:34 p.m.
On Sunday 13 February 2022 10:10:36 ajh-valmer wrote:
On Sunday 13 February 2022 18:32:10 William Morder via
tde-users wrote:
......
You get the strangest results! However I seem to recall that you are
relatively new here.
Do not run it as root!
1. You ought to be able to open a "run command" window with ALT-F2, then just
enter tderandrtray.
2. Another way is to right-click on your menu editor, look for
Screen Resize & Rotate (TDERandRTray)
and click the button with option to place in system tray.
3. Still another way is to left-click on your menu editor, search for
Screen Resize & Rotate (TDERandRTray)
then drag it to your lower panel. Not as good, but it's a start.
4. Yet one more way is to right-click on your lower panel (that's where I put
mine), then look for
Add Application to Panel / System / Screen Resize & Rotate (TDERandRTray)
But you ought to be able to add it to your system tray. It has been a long
time since I did this, so pardon my possible faulty memory. If anybody else
knows better, please jump in here.
Once you get your panel set how you want, lock it and leave it alone. That's
why I don't want to try removing it in my own system, then trying to add it
again. Whenever I mess with my lower panel, my icons and clock, etc.
sometimes start to wander around.
Try these steps and see what if you get it added. It's a tiny blue & white
icon with diagonal arrows.
Bill
It sounds like you mean changing the size of the
display itself ?
If you run the command tderandrtray (Trinity resize and rotate), you will
find an icon added to your task bar. That will give you give quick access
to your settings.
Hello,
# tderandrtray (root or user)
the result :
"[FIXME] UNCLASSIFIED DEVICE name:
0000:00:16.0-05b79a6f-4628-4d7f-899d-a91514cb32ab type: (null) subsystem:
mei driver: mei_wdt [Node Path: (null)] [Syspath:
/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000 and many lines "[FIXME] UNCLASSIFIED DEVICE",
And no icon added to my task bar
Cheers
André
Otherwise, you can find it in Trinity Control
Center:
TCC / Peripherals / Display / Size & Orientation.
14 Feb
14 Feb
10:32 a.m.
New subject: Trinity on HD+ display : ok now
On Sunday 13 February 2022 19:34:32 William Morder via tde-users wrote:
On Sunday 13 February 2022 10:10:36 ajh-valmer wrote:
> On Sunday 13 February 2022 18:32:10 William Morder via tde-users wrote:
> > If you run the command tderandrtray (Trinity
resize and rotate), you will
> > find an icon added to your task bar. That will give you give quick access
> > to your settings.
> # tderandrtray (root or user)
> the result :
> "[FIXME] UNCLASSIFIED DEVICE name:
> 0000:00:16.0-05b79a6f-4628-4d7f-899d-a91514cb32ab type: (null) subsystem:
> mei driver: mei_wdt [Node Path: (null)] [Syspath:
> /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000 and many lines "[FIXME] UNCLASSIFIED
DEVICE",
> And no icon added to my task bar
Hello,
Sorry,
now tderandrtray works fine (I don't know why ?),
effectively, an icon tderandrtray appears down on the right.
Cheers,
André
13 Feb
13 Feb
6:45 p.m.
Am Sunday 13 February 2022 19:10:36 schrieb ajh-valmer:
"[FIXME] UNCLASSIFIED DEVICE name:
0000:00:16.0-05b79a6f-4628-4d7f-899d-a91514cb32ab type: (null) subsystem:
mei driver: mei_wdt [Node Path: (null)] [Syspath:
/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000 and many lines "[FIXME] UNCLASSIFIED DEVICE",
this is sort of normal message for devices that are not recognized. I also
do not like it, but for the moment this is the "normal" behavior.
regarding the icon in the systemtray it is really strange that you do not
see it ... or perhaps you missed it, because there is no way that you see
the message and do not see the icon.
It looks like a display with diagonal arrow from top-left to down-right.
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