Hi all, Having tried out Q4OS I am interested in trying the "pure" TDE on Debian stretch. I have read the Wiki instructions on how to do so. I don't want to duplicate programs from another DE when I add TDE. Is there a best option for a pre-existing DE on Debian when adding the TDE so as to avoid duplication etc ?
On Tuesday 24 October 2017 23:13:20 Decarraig wrote:
Hi all, Having tried out Q4OS I am interested in trying the "pure" TDE on Debian stretch. I have read the Wiki instructions on how to do so. I don't want to duplicate programs from another DE when I add TDE. Is there a best option for a pre-existing DE on Debian when adding the TDE so as to avoid duplication etc ?
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On Tuesday 24 October 2017 01:13:20 pm Decarraig wrote:
Hi all, Having tried out Q4OS I am interested in trying the "pure" TDE on Debian stretch. I have read the Wiki instructions on how to do so. I don't want to duplicate programs from another DE when I add TDE. Is there a best option for a pre-existing DE on Debian when adding the TDE so as to avoid duplication etc ?
The simple answer, there is no duplications, TDE adds only Trinity apps.
Installing Debian there is the option to not install a DE during the install. I install "base + standard" then follow the directions on the wiki.
I have standarized on TDE so having only one DE is my preference. I add non Trinity apps (+depends) as needed.
greg
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On 25 Oct 2017, at 00:21, Greg Madden gomadtroll@gci.net wrote:
The simple answer, there is no duplications, TDE adds only Trinity apps.
Installing Debian there is the option to not install a DE during the install. I install "base + standard" then follow the directions on the wiki.
I have standarized on TDE so having only one DE is my preference. I add non Trinity apps (+depends) as needed.
greg
Thanks Greg,
Your suggestion as to how to install Debian worked.
Because I installed Stretch I had to follow the wiki page https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Preliminary_Stable_Builds
Adding the repos to the sources list went fine but now I am stuck on trying to install the GPG key - I keep getting "connection refused" from keys.gnupg.net keyserver.
Padraig
On Wednesday 25 October 2017 03:25:29 pm Decarraig wrote:
Sent from my iPad
On 25 Oct 2017, at 00:21, Greg Madden gomadtroll@gci.net wrote:
The simple answer, there is no duplications, TDE adds only Trinity apps.
Installing Debian there is the option to not install a DE during the install. I install "base + standard" then follow the directions on the wiki.
I have standarized on TDE so having only one DE is my preference. I add non Trinity apps (+depends) as needed.
greg
Thanks Greg,
Your suggestion as to how to install Debian worked.
Because I installed Stretch I had to follow the wiki page https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Preliminary_Stable_Builds
Adding the repos to the sources list went fine but now I am stuck on trying to install the GPG key - I keep getting "connection refused" from keys.gnupg.net keyserver.
Padraig
I had to intall "dirmngr" to get "apt-key" to work. It is not part of base + standard utils tasks.
"apt install dirmngr"
greg
On 26 October 2017 at 04:17 Greg Madden gomadtroll@gci.net wrote:
On Wednesday 25 October 2017 03:25:29 pm Decarraig wrote:
Sent from my iPad
On 25 Oct 2017, at 00:21, Greg Madden gomadtroll@gci.net wrote:
The simple answer, there is no duplications, TDE adds only Trinity apps.
Installing Debian there is the option to not install a DE during the install. I install "base + standard" then follow the directions on the wiki.
I have standarized on TDE so having only one DE is my preference. I add non Trinity apps (+depends) as needed.
greg
Thanks Greg,
Your suggestion as to how to install Debian worked.
Because I installed Stretch I had to follow the wiki page https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Preliminary_Stable_Builds
Adding the repos to the sources list went fine but now I am stuck on trying to install the GPG key - I keep getting "connection refused" from keys.gnupg.net keyserver.
Padraig
I had to intall "dirmngr" to get "apt-key" to work. It is not part of base + standard utils tasks.
"apt install dirmngr"
greg
Thanks - I had already installed dirmngr . Still couldn't get the GPG key. After a bit of googling I found a similar issue where the solution offered was to ping keys.gnupg.net and then to replace keys.gnupg.net with the IP address identified in the ping output when using the apt-key adv command.
This worked for me - although I am not entirely sure why. I presume that some GPG related package was not included in the Debian base+standard utils install.
Trinity desktop now installed and running
Padraig
On Friday 27 October 2017 03:13:00 pm Padraig Rocks wrote:
On 26 October 2017 at 04:17 Greg Madden gomadtroll@gci.net wrote:
On Wednesday 25 October 2017 03:25:29 pm Decarraig wrote:
Sent from my iPad
On 25 Oct 2017, at 00:21, Greg Madden gomadtroll@gci.net wrote:
The simple answer, there is no duplications, TDE adds only Trinity apps.
Installing Debian there is the option to not install a DE during the install. I install "base + standard" then follow the directions on the wiki.
I have standarized on TDE so having only one DE is my preference. I add non Trinity apps (+depends) as needed.
greg
Thanks Greg,
Your suggestion as to how to install Debian worked.
Because I installed Stretch I had to follow the wiki page https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Preliminary_Stable_Builds
Adding the repos to the sources list went fine but now I am stuck on trying to install the GPG key - I keep getting "connection refused" from keys.gnupg.net keyserver.
Padraig
I had to intall "dirmngr" to get "apt-key" to work. It is not part of base + standard utils tasks.
"apt install dirmngr"
greg
Thanks - I had already installed dirmngr . Still couldn't get the GPG key. After a bit of googling I found a similar issue where the solution offered was to ping keys.gnupg.net and then to replace keys.gnupg.net with the IP address identified in the ping output when using the apt-key adv command.
This worked for me - although I am not entirely sure why. I presume that some GPG related package was not included in the Debian base+standard utils install.
Trinity desktop now installed and running
Padraig
Cool, for the archives,\
I noticed after my "dirmngr" repone that it is a part of the "intallation instructions", havee not read them in some time :-)
The instruction to install the key ( keys.gnupg.net keyserver) worked here on a new base + standard, thankfull for interent search.
Greg
On Saturday 28 of October 2017 02:36:30 Greg Madden wrote:
On Friday 27 October 2017 03:13:00 pm Padraig Rocks wrote:
On 26 October 2017 at 04:17 Greg Madden gomadtroll@gci.net wrote:
On Wednesday 25 October 2017 03:25:29 pm Decarraig wrote:
Sent from my iPad
On 25 Oct 2017, at 00:21, Greg Madden gomadtroll@gci.net wrote:
The simple answer, there is no duplications, TDE adds only Trinity apps.
Installing Debian there is the option to not install a DE during the install. I install "base + standard" then follow the directions on the wiki.
I have standarized on TDE so having only one DE is my preference. I add non Trinity apps (+depends) as needed.
greg
Thanks Greg,
Your suggestion as to how to install Debian worked.
Because I installed Stretch I had to follow the wiki page https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Preliminary_Stable_Builds
Adding the repos to the sources list went fine but now I am stuck on trying to install the GPG key - I keep getting "connection refused" from keys.gnupg.net keyserver.
Padraig
I had to intall "dirmngr" to get "apt-key" to work. It is not part of base + standard utils tasks.
"apt install dirmngr"
greg
Thanks - I had already installed dirmngr . Still couldn't get the GPG key. After a bit of googling I found a similar issue where the solution offered was to ping keys.gnupg.net and then to replace keys.gnupg.net with the IP address identified in the ping output when using the apt-key adv command.
This worked for me - although I am not entirely sure why. I presume that some GPG related package was not included in the Debian base+standard utils install.
Trinity desktop now installed and running
Padraig
Cool, for the archives,\
I noticed after my "dirmngr" repone that it is a part of the "intallation instructions", havee not read them in some time :-)
The instruction to install the key ( keys.gnupg.net keyserver) worked here on a new base + standard, thankfull for interent search.
Greg
Because problems with key servers availability are too common, I added the axis-archive-keyring package to the apt repository - see the description added on wiki.
Cheers
On 29 Oct 2017, at 01:19, Slávek Banko slavek.banko@axis.cz wrote:
On Saturday 28 of October 2017 02:36:30 Greg Madden wrote: On Friday 27 October 2017 03:13:00 pm Padraig Rocks wrote:
On 26 October 2017 at 04:17 Greg Madden gomadtroll@gci.net wrote:
On Wednesday 25 October 2017 03:25:29 pm Decarraig wrote: Sent from my iPad
On 25 Oct 2017, at 00:21, Greg Madden gomadtroll@gci.net wrote:
The simple answer, there is no duplications, TDE adds only Trinity apps.
Installing Debian there is the option to not install a DE during the install. I install "base + standard" then follow the directions on the wiki.
I have standarized on TDE so having only one DE is my preference. I add non Trinity apps (+depends) as needed.
greg
Thanks Greg,
Your suggestion as to how to install Debian worked.
Because I installed Stretch I had to follow the wiki page https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Preliminary_Stable_Builds
Adding the repos to the sources list went fine but now I am stuck on trying to install the GPG key - I keep getting "connection refused" from keys.gnupg.net keyserver.
Padraig
I had to intall "dirmngr" to get "apt-key" to work. It is not part of base + standard utils tasks.
"apt install dirmngr"
greg
Thanks - I had already installed dirmngr . Still couldn't get the GPG key. After a bit of googling I found a similar issue where the solution offered was to ping keys.gnupg.net and then to replace keys.gnupg.net with the IP address identified in the ping output when using the apt-key adv command.
This worked for me - although I am not entirely sure why. I presume that some GPG related package was not included in the Debian base+standard utils install.
Trinity desktop now installed and running
Padraig
Cool, for the archives,\
I noticed after my "dirmngr" repone that it is a part of the "intallation instructions", havee not read them in some time :-)
The instruction to install the key ( keys.gnupg.net keyserver) worked here on a new base + standard, thankfull for interent search.
Greg
Because problems with key servers availability are too common, I added the axis-archive-keyring package to the apt repository - see the description added on wiki.
Cheers
Slávek
Thanks Slávek. Thought I would give this a try . It did resolve mirror.xcer.cz but the connection then timed out over 5 tries. Perhaps someone else might try this in case for some reason my IP address is a factor ? Ping mirror.xcer.cz also failed. I do have a working internet connection as ping google.ie (my country Google domain) was absolutely fine with no packet loss Padraig
On Sunday 29 of October 2017 18:55:00 Decarraig wrote:
Thanks Slávek. Thought I would give this a try . It did resolve mirror.xcer.cz but the connection then timed out over 5 tries. Perhaps someone else might try this in case for some reason my IP address is a factor ? Ping mirror.xcer.cz also failed. I do have a working internet connection as ping google.ie (my country Google domain) was absolutely fine with no packet loss Padraig
Hi all,
please excuse the unavailability of mirror.xcer.cz. Wind storm in Europe and Czech Republic caused power outages and various other problems. As a result, mirror.xcer.cz is also unavailable. We hope the Internet provider will resolve the problem soon.
Cheers
On 29 Oct 2017, at 18:09, Slávek Banko slavek.banko@axis.cz wrote:
On Sunday 29 of October 2017 18:55:00 Decarraig wrote: Thanks Slávek. Thought I would give this a try . It did resolve mirror.xcer.cz but the connection then timed out over 5 tries. Perhaps someone else might try this in case for some reason my IP address is a factor ? Ping mirror.xcer.cz also failed. I do have a working internet connection as ping google.ie (my country Google domain) was absolutely fine with no packet loss Padraig
Hi all,
please excuse the unavailability of mirror.xcer.cz. Wind storm in Europe and Czech Republic caused power outages and various other problems. As a result, mirror.xcer.cz is also unavailable. We hope the Internet provider will resolve the problem soon.
Cheers
Slávek
I've just heard about the storms on news reports here. I hope you are all safe. I'll try again at a later time. Padraig
Thanks Slávek. Thought I would give this a try . It did resolve mirror.xcer.cz but the connection then timed out over 5 tries. Perhaps someone else might try this in case for some reason my IP address is a factor ? Ping mirror.xcer.cz also failed.
$ ping mirror.xcer.cz PING mirror.xcer.cz (91.241.23.210) 56(84) bytes of data. From 10.2.252.114 icmp_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable
Here from Berlin, Germany. However, "10.2.252.114" looks suspicious to me, because netrange 10.0.0.0 - 10.255.255.255 is a private address usually used by internal networks of big company IIUC, i.e. my provider. When I ping the Freie Universität Berlin, I get this:
$ ping 130.133.4.195 PING 130.133.4.195 (130.133.4.195) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 130.133.4.195: icmp_req=1 ttl=52 time=24.6 ms
I don't know if anything of this is relevant to your problem. At least I can confirm, that I'm not able to ping mirror.xcer.cz.
Hope this helps.
Regards, Stefan
Stefan Krusche wrote:
$ ping mirror.xcer.cz PING mirror.xcer.cz (91.241.23.210) 56(84) bytes of data. From 10.2.252.114 icmp_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable
Here from Berlin, Germany. However, "10.2.252.114" looks suspicious to me, because netrange 10.0.0.0 - 10.255.255.255 is a private address usually used by internal networks of big company IIUC, i.e. my provider. When I ping the Freie Universität Berlin, I get this:
10.2.252.114 must be your address from which the ping is executed
Am Sonntag 29 Oktober 2017 schrieb deloptes:
Stefan Krusche wrote:
$ ping mirror.xcer.cz PING mirror.xcer.cz (91.241.23.210) 56(84) bytes of data. From 10.2.252.114 icmp_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable
Here from Berlin, Germany. However, "10.2.252.114" looks suspicious to me, because netrange 10.0.0.0 - 10.255.255.255 is a private address usually used by internal networks of big company IIUC, i.e. my provider. When I ping the Freie Universität Berlin, I get this:
10.2.252.114 must be your address from which the ping is executed
Thank you. I would have exspected that to be the individual IP address of my computer, because I executed it on my system. I guess it has been changed through the networks of my internet provider.
Anyways, it is now clear that the problem addressed by the OP was that mirror.xcer.cz was actually down. Understanding the internals of ping is beyond the horizon of my expertise.
Regards, Stefan
On 29 Oct 2017, at 01:19, Slávek Banko slavek.banko@axis.cz wrote:
Because problems with key servers availability are too common, I added the axis-archive-keyring package to the apt repository - see the description added on wiki.
Cheers
Slávek
Success adding the axis-archive-keyring package . Thanks to all for the assistance Padraig
Decarraig composed on 2017-10-30 20:56 (UTC):
Slávek Banko wrote:
Because problems with key servers availability are too common, I added the axis-archive-keyring package to the apt repository - see the description added on wiki.
Success adding the axis-archive-keyring package . Thanks to all for the assistance
I get a 403 trying to follow the axis* instructions for Stretch on https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Preliminary_Stable_Builds
And, the instructions on https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/DebianInstall still indicate "no official version of TDE available" for Stretch. Is this still correct?
On Sunday 12 of November 2017 07:49:21 Felix Miata wrote:
Decarraig composed on 2017-10-30 20:56 (UTC):
Slávek Banko wrote:
Because problems with key servers availability are too common, I added the axis-archive-keyring package to the apt repository - see the description added on wiki.
Success adding the axis-archive-keyring package . Thanks to all for the assistance
I get a 403 trying to follow the axis* instructions for Stretch on https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Preliminary_Stable_Builds
And, the instructions on https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/DebianInstall still indicate "no official version of TDE available" for Stretch. Is this still correct?
Yes, the instructions are still valid. Repository for Preliminary Stable Builds was only temporarily unavailable. Now is again properly available.
Cheers
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