6 Nov
2020
6 Nov
'20
8:35 a.m.
Hi all!
Is it just me or can sombody else replicate this behaviour:
1) pmount installed, udisks2 not installed: I get the "device
inserted
.."-dialog, but the device icons do not show up. Mounting and
unmounting works. After removing all external devicis I still have /media/
populated with "interesting" folders, each containing one
file ".creaded_by_pmount". Zhese survive a reboot, so I have to remove them
by hand.
2) udisks2 is installed, pmount not instaled: I get the "device
inserted
.."-dialog, and all device icons as expected. Mounting and
unmounting works. /media/ is working as expected, i.e. folders disappear when
the device is removed.
So ... save to say "install udisks2 and forget aboult pmount" ? pmount i
used in exegnulinux, that's why I ran into it.
Nik
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Hi Nik
I don't use pmount, so I can't speak to its behavior. udisk2, as you
described, is how it works for me. udisk2, at least for me, works perfectly.
However, I would wait for the remaining collective to speak. We might just
learn something.
Cheers,
Kate
6 Nov
6 Nov
1:14 p.m.
New subject: pmount vs. udisks2
On Friday 06 November 2020 00:35:03 BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote:
There was a much earlier thread, originally started by deloptes (I believe),
under this heading: "Auto-mount no longer auto-mounts (TDE mediamanager)"
In response to this thread, I mentioned that suddenly some of my external
drives were creating their own weird mount points, for example:
/media/Elements_25A1
/media/External_HDD____
/media/Mass_Storage_Device
/media/My_Book_________
/media/<some_new_name>
/media/<user_name>
/media/USB_Storage
(Note that I always create custom mount points for all my hard drives, so that
they don't keep changing on me if they somehow get unmounted. These points
did not obey my rules in fstab, but suddenly everything is more or less back
to normal.)
Does this sound like what you describe?
Bill
Hi all!
Is it just me or can sombody else replicate this behaviour:
1) pmount installed, udisks2 not installed: I get the "device
inserted .."-dialog, but the device icons do not show up. Mounting and
unmounting works. After removing all external devicis I still have /media/
populated with "interesting" folders, each containing one
file ".creaded_by_pmount". Zhese survive a reboot, so I have to remove them
by hand.
2) udisks2 is installed, pmount not instaled: I
get the "device
inserted .."-dialog, and all device icons as expected. Mounting and
unmounting works. /media/ is working as expected, i.e. folders disappear
when the device is removed.
So ... save to say "install udisks2 and
forget aboult pmount" ? pmount i
used in exegnulinux, that's why I ran into it.
Nik
--
Hi Nik
I don't use pmount, so I can't speak to its behavior. udisk2, as you
described, is how it works for me. udisk2, at least for me, works
perfectly. However, I would wait for the remaining collective to speak. We
might just learn something.
Cheers,
Kate 
1:22 p.m.
New subject: pmount vs. udisks2
Anno domini 2020 Fri, 6 Nov 05:14:10 -0800
William Morder via tde-users scripsit:
On Friday 06 November 2020 00:35:03 BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote:
There was a much earlier thread, originally started by deloptes (I believe),
under this heading: "Auto-mount no longer auto-mounts (TDE mediamanager)"
In response to this thread, I mentioned that suddenly some of my external
drives were creating their own weird mount points, for example:
/media/Elements_25A1
/media/External_HDD____
/media/Mass_Storage_Device
/media/My_Book_________
/media/<some_new_name>
/media/<user_name>
/media/USB_Storage
(Note that I always create custom mount points for all my hard drives, so that
they don't keep changing on me if they somehow get unmounted. These points
did not obey my rules in fstab, but suddenly everything is more or less back
to normal.)
Does this sound like what you describe?
That is exactly what happens with pmount. e.g.:
/media/12.7MB ( sdb1 )
Nik
Hi all!
Is it just me or can sombody else replicate this behaviour:
1) pmount installed, udisks2 not installed: I get the "device
inserted .."-dialog, but the device icons do not show up. Mounting and
unmounting works. After removing all external devicis I still have /media/
populated with "interesting" folders, each containing one
file ".creaded_by_pmount". Zhese survive a reboot, so I have to remove them
by hand.
2) udisks2 is installed, pmount not instaled: I
get the "device
inserted .."-dialog, and all device icons as expected. Mounting and
unmounting works. /media/ is working as expected, i.e. folders disappear
when the device is removed.
So ... save to say "install udisks2 and
forget aboult pmount" ? pmount i
used in exegnulinux, that's why I ran into it.
Nik
--
Hi Nik
I don't use pmount, so I can't speak to its behavior. udisk2, as you
described, is how it works for me. udisk2, at least for me, works
perfectly. However, I would wait for the remaining collective to speak. We
might just learn something.
Cheers,
Kate
Bill
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1:48 p.m.
New subject: pmount vs. udisks2
On Friday 06 November 2020 05:22:44 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Somewhere online I had found some methods for forcing automount using my own
custom mount points; but now with most of my secrets and tricks buried in a
failed hard drive, I cannot tell you how exactly how I did it. It will take
some searching to find it again.
In any case, now it works again, with one detail changed: instead of mounting
external drives as
/media/<user_name>/<custom_mount_point>/
-- now it has reverted to an earlier usage, namely just
/media/<custom_mount_point>/
-- which is how I organized mount points in Kubuntu. When I changed from
Kubuntu to Debian to Devuan, somewhere the <user_name> part got inserted, but
only for external (USB) hard drives; for my 3 internal hard drives (besides
sda1), everything remained the same throughout.
While I did not intend to change anything in my setup, somehow this caused all
kinds of confusion; so I suspect it has to do with the installation of pmount
or udisks2, or maybe failure to install those packages.
I will leave this to brighter minds to enlighten us, as it is a mystery to me,
but I will be following this thread.
Bill
Anno domini 2020 Fri, 6 Nov 05:14:10 -0800
Does this
sound like what you describe?
That is exactly what happens with pmount. e.g.:
/media/12.7MB ( sdb1 )
Nik
2:09 p.m.
New subject: pmount vs. udisks2
Anno domini 2020 Fri, 6 Nov 05:48:31 -0800
William Morder via tde-users scripsit:
On Friday 06 November 2020 05:22:44 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Somewhere online I had found some methods for forcing automount using my own
custom mount points; but now with most of my secrets and tricks buried in a
failed hard drive, I cannot tell you how exactly how I did it. It will take
some searching to find it again.
In any case, now it works again, with one detail changed: instead of mounting
external drives as
/media/<user_name>/<custom_mount_point>/
-- now it has reverted to an earlier usage, namely just
/media/<custom_mount_point>/
-- which is how I organized mount points in Kubuntu. When I changed from
Kubuntu to Debian to Devuan, somewhere the <user_name> part got inserted, but
only for external (USB) hard drives; for my 3 internal hard drives (besides
sda1), everything remained the same throughout.
While I did not intend to change anything in my setup, somehow this caused all
kinds of confusion; so I suspect it has to do with the installation of pmount
or udisks2, or maybe failure to install those packages.
Now that solved one other mistery, that naged me for years. The answer is in "man
udisks", and the correct udevd-rule is to be found in the arch wiki:
On devuan/debian, removeable devices are mounted under /media/$USER/<SOMENAME>
With this file in /etc/udev/rules.d/99-udisks2.rules, it's mounted under
/media/<SOMENAME> - you don't even need to restart udevd to make it work :)
# UDISKS_FILESYSTEM_SHARED
# ==1: mount filesystem to a shared directory (/media/VolumeName)
# ==0: mount filesystem to a private directory (/media/$USER/VolumeName)
# See udisks(8)
# Source: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Udisks
ENV{ID_FS_USAGE}=="filesystem|other|crypto",
ENV{UDISKS_FILESYSTEM_SHARED}="1"
Nik
Anno domini 2020 Fri, 6 Nov 05:14:10 -0800
Does this
sound like what you describe?
That is exactly what happens with pmount. e.g.:
/media/12.7MB ( sdb1 )
Nik
I will leave this to brighter minds to enlighten us, as it is a mystery to me,
but I will be following this thread.
Bill
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3:12 p.m.
New subject: pmount vs. udisks2
{snip it all!}
You should be able to force a specific mount point just by adding a UUID line
to fstab or cryptab. I believe (okay, can’t remember) that will also stop
the "device inserted .."-dialog.
Note: These have been modified from my actual entries, so use only as a guide,
do not copy/paste. Copy/paste will most likely fubar your system.
(Especially if your external drive is formatted something other than ext4.)
Examples:
UnEncrypted:
- ADD to /etc/fstab
UUID={huge UUID number} /media/michael/hdsda ext4 defaults,noatime,nofail 1 2
Encrypted:
- ADD to /etc/crypttab
lesda /dev/disk/by-uuid/{huge UUID number} /root/.luks/keyfile.sda luks,nofail
- ADD to /etc/fstab
/dev/mapper/lesda /media/michael/hdsda ext4 defaults,noatime,nofail 1 2
See the last LUKS post I made for more details on encrypted.
Best,
Michael
11 Nov
11 Nov
10:20 a.m.
New subject: pmount vs. udisks2
Am Freitag, 6. November 2020 schrieb Dr. Nikolaus Klepp:
Now that solved one other mistery, that naged me for
years. The
answer is in "man udisks", and the correct udevd-rule is to be found
in the arch wiki: On devuan/debian, removeable devices are mounted
under /media/$USER/<SOMENAME> With this file in
/etc/udev/rules.d/99-udisks2.rules, it's mounted under
/media/<SOMENAME> - you don't even need to restart udevd to make it
work :)
# UDISKS_FILESYSTEM_SHARED
# ==1: mount filesystem to a shared directory (/media/VolumeName)
# ==0: mount filesystem to a private directory
(/media/$USER/VolumeName) # See udisks(8)
# Source: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Udisks
ENV{ID_FS_USAGE}=="filesystem|other|crypto",
ENV{UDISKS_FILESYSTEM_SHARED}="1"
That. Nagged me, too, but not enough to come to investigate it yet.
Thanks, Nik
Cheers, Stefan
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