On Sunday 12 February 2012, Timothy Pearson wrote: A lot was stated already and for most of the comments I could agree fully! Nevertheles here are my 2 cents as well. I'm with KDE3 from the very beginning (and with KDE2 before). It was a big disappointment for me when I realized which way KDE4 was going to go starting with things like - dropping Konqueror in favor of Dolphin - demanding from the users to switch to a desktop (KDE4) with absolute reduced functionality - banning users from the discussion list because they were no Fanboys of KDE4 - ... I did not upgrade from Ubuntu Gutsy (was this the latest one with KDE3 officially included in repos?) because I simply did not know which DE to use instead until I found TDE. I'm so glad KDE3 still exists. I bought a netbook 3 years ago and I installed Ubuntu Lenny with Gnome2 as there was a netbook-edition available and there was nothing comparable available for KDE3. I got used to work with it but I'm not really happy with the lack of functionallity and the way it could be customized. I installed the next version (Maverick?) for a friend of mine again with the netbook edition and know what? even there you saw regression in Gnome2 (Nautilus no longer had the address text field available showing the path where you are (don't know the correct name for this)). With Gnome3, it's getting even worse. At work I had to upgrade the Linux system to KDE4 2 years ago. A few guys were working via VNC on this system. What worked well on KDE3 for years was totally strange on KDE4. VNC server / client have been totally broken with the new graphics rendering of KDE4. I found Tiger-VNC program that helped a bit but I could net really got accustomed to KDE4. I now have upgraded to Lenny LTS and downgraded KDE4 to TDE happily! For me, there is no alternative to KDE3 / TDE. If you really drop it I would try to use the existing version as long as possible. Yes, there is room for improvement, e.g. the following 3 items come to mind: - Konqueror more and more has problems to render actuall Web-pages, it would be very nice if we could switch from KHTML to Webkit as I don't think that the effort to renew KHTML libraries could be done. - For using TDE on netbooks the screen size of a lot of dialogs is simply too big for the available screen estate and they can't be reduced. Bear in mind that especially netbooks could greatly take advantage from KDE3. - What I find totally anoying is the way how self-mounted external devices are named. Instead of using simply the names you find by using the mount command (/media/something), you find some system:/media/other-thing! As I'm often still using the command line I can not simply copy the location out of Konquerors address bar but have instead to use mount to get it's correct location. ------------ As you easily see I'm no native speaker. I hope I was able to make myself at least understandable. I'd like to take the opportunity to say a big THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU to Tim and all the others who made Trinity a reality. Please go on with the good work! A happy TDE user Gerhard