10 Jul
2024
10 Jul
'24
2:38 a.m.
It's probably ten years or more since I configured the Sysguard app
in one of my panels. Today I wanted to change the config.
I found I could remove a display but I could only add blank displays
which I could find no way to configure.
It took me three hours but eventually I succeeded by restoring my
~/.trinity/share/apps/ksysguard/KSysGuardApplet.xml from backup
and then manually editing it WHILE TRINITY WAS NOT RUNNING.
Is there a better way to configure the Sysguard app in a panel?
--Mike
2:04 a.m.
On Wed July 10 2024 18:34:46 deloptes via tde-users wrote:
Mike Bird via tde-users wrote:
I'll wait a few days in case someone knows how to do this but
if not I'll file a bug as you suggest.
--Mike
Is there a better way to configure the Sysguard
app in a panel?
It might be one of these apps that are not used too often and obviously
something is broken. Why don't you file a bug, so that someone has a look
into it? 
6:52 p.m.
On Tuesday 09 July 2024 19:38:33 Mike Bird via tde-users wrote:
It's probably ten years or more since I configured
the Sysguard app
in one of my panels. Today I wanted to change the config.
I found I could remove a display but I could only add blank displays
which I could find no way to configure.
It took me three hours but eventually I succeeded by restoring my
~/.trinity/share/apps/ksysguard/KSysGuardApplet.xml from backup
and then manually editing it WHILE TRINITY WAS NOT RUNNING.
Is there a better way to configure the Sysguard app in a panel?
--Mike
Nobody else seems to be responding to what I *believe* you are asking, so I am
going to take a stab at this, and at least clarify for myself what is the
problem.
Do you want to add ksysguard to the panel (lower, upper ...)? The lower panel
tends to give me problems, as well, now and again, so I avoid it with a kind
of primitive superstitious dread. But is done simply enough: just find the
icon (start menu under System heading), then drag it to the panel. Unlock the
panel before doing this, then unlock it; if not, my panel gets messed up, and
I can waste a whole day just trying to put things back right.
Or, what seems more likely: Do you want to configure your ksysguard *after* it
has already been added to the panel? I don't see the problem here, as it can
still be opened from the start menu, and configured there.
I am assuming that, by sysguard, you mean ksysguard, but I could be wrong. And
it could be that you are talking about some other problem entirely beyond
that, as this doesn't seem so big a problem.
And then ...
Okay, so I just tried it myself. I don't use ksysguard so much nowadays,
although I used to keep it running all the time. And everything seemed to
work just fine ... until, as you say, I added it to my lower panel, then
opened and tried to configure; all I get is a blank page, no way to change,
no way to add a running intance, etc.
Now my ksysguard also is not working, even though I have added it to the
panel, then removed it. Now when I open it from the start menu, or by using
alt-F2, ksysguard opens, but with a blank page, instead of showing running
processes.
Bill
7:20 p.m.
Anno domini 2024 Thu, 11 Jul 11:52:33 -0700
William Morder via tde-users scripsit:
[..]
Now my ksysguard also is not working, even though I have added it to the
panel, then removed it. Now when I open it from the start menu, or by using
alt-F2, ksysguard opens, but with a blank page, instead of showing running
processes.
Not so on my system (14.2):
- add ksysguard to panel
- 2 sensors show up, one blank
- open ksysguard application
- select any sensor from the tree view
- drag it over to the ksysguard panel
- select which type of graph you' like to see
- done
ksysguard application starts with a treeview left and an empty section on the rigt:
- file/new worksheet
- select how many raws and colums
- drag the sensors you'd like to see over from the treeview
- done
On a sidenote: once upon a time I had kysyguard running ll the the time, but nowadays I
use conky :)
Nik
Bill
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7:43 p.m.
On Thu July 11 2024 12:20:22 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp via tde-users wrote:
Anno domini 2024 Thu, 11 Jul 11:52:33 -0700
William Morder via tde-users scripsit:
Thank you Nik. That works. I was mistakenly trying to use right-click
to configure the blank display in the app in the panel rather than
dragging a sensor from the application.
--Mike
[..]
Now my ksysguard also is not working, even though I have added it to the
panel, then removed it. Now when I open it from the start menu, or by
using alt-F2, ksysguard opens, but with a blank page, instead of showing
running processes.
Not so on my system (14.2):
- add ksysguard to panel
- 2 sensors show up, one blank
- open ksysguard application
- select any sensor from the tree view
- drag it over to the ksysguard panel
- select which type of graph you' like to see
- done
ksysguard application starts with a treeview left and an empty section on
the rigt: - file/new worksheet
- select how many raws and colums
- drag the sensors you'd like to see over from the treeview
- done
On a sidenote: once upon a time I had kysyguard running ll the the time,
but nowadays I use conky :) 
10:21 p.m.
New subject: How to configure Sysguard app in panel? [ slightly off-topic]
On 2024-07-11 14:43:23 Mike Bird via tde-users wrote:
Thank you Nik. That works. I was mistakenly trying
to use right-click
to configure the blank display in the app in the panel rather than
dragging a sensor from the application.
--Mike
I don't know how old ksysguard is, but there are a number of older apps that
do things in non-"standard" (non-modern?) ways; e.g. in Konqueror, to change
the View Mode via the toolbar one left-clicks and holds the widget and after
a moment a context menu is displayed. I almost always forget to hold down
the button, and nothing happens.
There are others that I've come across, but I can't think of them at the
moment.
Leslie
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7:41 p.m.
Hi William,
I had a long reply to you ready to go but Nik just posted the
solution to my problem - drag a sensor from the ksysguard
application to a blank display in the double-d ksysguardd app
in the task bar. Thanks for your input!
--Mike
8:04 p.m.
On Thursday 11 July 2024 12:41:48 Mike Bird via tde-users wrote:
Hi William,
I had a long reply to you ready to go but Nik just posted the
solution to my problem - drag a sensor from the ksysguard
application to a blank display in the double-d ksysguardd app
in the task bar. Thanks for your input!
--Mike
I know that I sign everything William, so I get that a lot; but once we are
acquainted, I tell people to call me Bill, which is how I sign my emails.
Sorry to miss that long response, but I am glad to contribute however I can.
Nik, as usual, stole my fire.
;-)
Bill
8:29 p.m.
Anno domini 2024 Thu, 11 Jul 13:04:15 -0700
William Morder via tde-users scripsit:
On Thursday 11 July 2024 12:41:48 Mike Bird via tde-users wrote:
Oh, didn't intend to. When I read your mail I just remembered that ages ago I stumbled
over the very same behaviour of ksysguard and had a hard time figureing out what's
going on. At that time I had a T60 with libreboot running my mill - all powermangement
turned off. So I needed something that told me if the CPU was going to overheat or not -
which it never did as I made sure the fan ran at emergency speed all the time :)
Nik
Hi William,
I had a long reply to you ready to go but Nik just posted the
solution to my problem - drag a sensor from the ksysguard
application to a blank display in the double-d ksysguardd app
in the task bar. Thanks for your input!
--Mike
I know that I sign everything William, so I get that a lot; but once we are
acquainted, I tell people to call me Bill, which is how I sign my emails.
Sorry to miss that long response, but I am glad to contribute however I can.
Nik, as usual, stole my fire.
;-)
Bill
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9:04 p.m.
On Thursday 11 July 2024 13:29:14 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp via tde-users wrote:
Anno domini 2024 Thu, 11 Jul 13:04:15 -0700
William Morder via tde-users scripsit:
Not to worry. I was just joking. I ought to remember that jokes don't always
translate so well; some do better than others, but jokes, wordplay and poems
seldom survive translation yet convey the original sense.
Just so everybody knows, I am usually looking for somewhere to insert a joke.
If readers sometimes don't get me, just assume that it's another one of my
jokes that misfired or went off the mark.
If I have something really serious to say (e.g., if I am really annoyed with
another person), then I can be very direct.
Not so in this case, just joking. Always a pleasure to hear from you, Nik.
Most other people here, too.
Bill
On Thursday 11 July 2024 12:41:48 Mike Bird via
tde-users wrote:
Oh, didn't intend to. When I read your mail I just remembered that ages ago
I stumbled over the very same behaviour of ksysguard and had a hard time
figureing out what's going on. At that time I had a T60 with libreboot
running my mill - all powermangement turned off. So I needed something that
told me if the CPU was going to overheat or not - which it never did as I
made sure the fan ran at emergency speed all the time :)
Nik
Hi William,
I had a long reply to you ready to go but Nik just posted the
solution to my problem - drag a sensor from the ksysguard
application to a blank display in the double-d ksysguardd app
in the task bar. Thanks for your input!
--Mike
I know that I sign everything William, so I get that a lot; but once we
are acquainted, I tell people to call me Bill, which is how I sign my
emails.
Sorry to miss that long response, but I am glad to contribute however I
can. Nik, as usual, stole my fire.
;-)
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