One of those headaches, for myself, is installing from source packages. I hate doing it, mainly because there are different archives, different methods for extraction, etc. No two sets of instructions for untar and install, etc., look alike. You may disagree, if you like, but that's how it goes with me. Anyway ... I managed to get icecat installed from source packages, the latest stable version, 60-something. (I saw a version 90-something on their site, but wonder about the 30 versions in-between that are missing ...) Right away, I noticed that a lot of problems totally vanished. I could explain in more detail, but some will believe me, and some will not, according to their own needs and wants. Now that I have it fresh in my mind, what needs to be done to make a successful installation, and seeing how useful it is, and wondering how I lived with lesser browsers, I thought maybe others might benefit from knowing the steps, now that I have it still fresh in my mind. If there is some way of sharing this list of steps, I would be glad to retrace; but I don't want to go to this trouble if nobody cares. It may be that a) it's already obvious how-to for most readers of this list, or b) others are already satisfied with their browsers, or c) don't care, for a host of other reasons or non-reasons. On a side note, I wonder if we could get a proper, working, up-to-date version of icecat into the repositories somewhere (as it has disappeared from Trisquel and others). I suppose a browser is not really a candidate for becoming a TDE-Trinity package? but it is a thought, since we already have Konqueror, which is a web browser as well as a file manager. Just making the offer, if anybody would find it useful. I don't even know where I would post it, that it could be found by those who are searching for it. Bill jabber/xmpp dr_mojo_contendo(a)hot-chilli.net _______________________________________________

On a side note, I wonder if we could get a proper, working, up-to-date version of icecat into the repositories somewhere (as it has disappeared from Trisquel and others).

I suppose a browser is not really a candidate for becoming a TDE-Trinity package? but it is a thought, since we already have Konqueror, which is a web browser as well as a file manager.

Since this is not quite a new thread, but continues what was discussed in the old thread, I've just changed the header. Also, I cut out the comments, as this is already long enough, and those who are interested can refer to the older threads to see what they missed. Okay, so there are a few more who express a little interest, by contrast with those who are not interested, or don't see the need. The steps are still not quite as clear as they could be, but once I put it all in order, I'll post it on the TDE wiki, or get help from Michael. Comments are welcome; improvements can be made. This is not quite finished as I want it, but it'll do for most of us. I could use some help on how to write symlinks at the end; otherwise, just give me some time, so I can make sure that I got it right. If I've missed anything, or could make it simpler or clearer, I am open to suggestions. After I (we) get it in order, and simplify the steps, then I'll post a how-to on the wiki. My source page was here: https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gnuzilla/60.7.0/ Kate used another mirror, here: https://mirrors.ocf.berkeley.edu/gnu/gnuzilla/60.7.0/ There are other mirrors, too. wget http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gnuzilla/60.7.0/icecat-60.7.0.en-US.gnulinux-i686. ta r.bz2 tar xvf icecat-60.7.0.en-US.gnulinux-i686.tar.bz2 sudo ln -s $PWD/icecat/icecat-bin /usr/bin/icecat icecat Here is where the problem comes in. The user [myself, in this example] ends up with an icecat folder in the /home/<user> directory. If you look at the last step, it is supposed to make a shortcut, /usr/bin/icecat, which points to /usr/lib/icecat/icecat-bin -- but it seems a couple steps are missing here. Unless you want to run icecat from your home folder, then you need to find where to insert the icecat folder. The user must copy the newly-created icecat folder from /home/<user>/icecat to /usr/lib; also it would probably be a good idea to backup this icecat folder somewhere safe, so you don't have to repeat the first step, and also for reference, because the contents will help you identify the proper location. To make sure you are doing it right, compare with firefox or palemoon or another mozilla browser. If you follow me so far, then: backup! sudo cp -v -r -f /home/<user>/icecat -t /media/<my_safe_location>/ then sudo cp -v -r -f /home/<user>/icecat -t /usr/lib/ So far, so good, but now you need to create a symlink: /usr/lib/icecat/icecat-bin >>> /usr/bin/icecat-bin Or maybe it is the other way round. In any case, I was reading up on the syntax, how to create a symlink. Otherwise, I just do it manually: put the two folders side by side, drag the icon into the folder where I want it, but when Konqueror asks me if I want to move, copy, or link here, I choose the last. Last step, for the insane control freaks (like the present author) who want to stop all leaks and keep Big Brother and his evil minions from nibbling away at your soul ... If you have extensions or settings from Firefox or other browsers, they can be copied into your Icecat folder pretty much wholesale (but I wouldn't do it that way the first time). /home/<user>/.mozilla/<mozilla browser>; except for Pale Moon, which uses a non-mozilla folder, /home/<user>/.moonchild productions -- which is annoying, for anybody who uses command-line to move things around, because of that space in the name. Should you choose to go this route, try adding extensions from your other mozilla folders, one-at-a-time, to see what the browser will accept without complaint. The new web extensions are displacing the older xpi extensions, and some will not work, but newer ones are coming out, and new versions of old classics are being redone, too. As I said, this is still messy, as I am retracing my steps and thinking out loud, and repeating myself. The short version comes only with revision. Bill

Anyway, once I'm in /usr/local, creating symbolic links is straightforward: the command format > is ln -s <target> <link>; so in his case, | ln -s /usr/local/lib/icecat/icecat-bin /usr/local/bin |

On 2020-09-15 09:08:58 phiebie(a)drei.at wrote: Yeah. I don't know how I came to do that. (?) What I should have done was | cd /usr/local/bin | ln -s ../icecat/icecat icecat which works just fine. _______________________________________________ tde-users mailing list -- users(a)trinitydesktop.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave(a)trinitydesktop.org Web mail archive available at https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@trinitydes kt op.org ---------------------------------------------------------------------

Not so! True, it does look pretty much the same, and to the untrained eye, they are about equal. After having used a lot of Mozilla browsers, I can tell you for sure that Icecat offers some major differences.