On Wednesday 03 October 2018 06:46:05 Baron wrote:

Hi John,

On Wednesday 03 October 2018 14:38:14 Pisini, John wrote:

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I'm on gmail as well. I have tried telling it they aren't spam and that works for a few messages and then drops them back to spam again.

On Wed, Oct 3, 2018, 9:35 AM Baron baron@linuxmaniac.net wrote:

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Hi Guys,

Is there something going on with Google (Gmail) and the list mail ?

There isn't any list mail shown when I go into my mail account. But I can see my post and John Pisini's reply on line.

Thanks John, but I've not had anything to go into the spam or waste bin folders.

-- Best Regards: Baron

This is crazy ! I've not had a post from the list since the 16/09/18, until I posted that I wasn't getting any. I went and checked my acc and there were no posts from the lists at all, not even in the spam folder. Then I make a post and hey presto, I'm getting my own mail and reply's back.

Weird !

Thanks John. At least it now seems to be working.

Google's algorithms know better than you what email you ought to be reading.

For what it's worth, I've been getting warnings from the Trinity mailing list that messages sent to my accounts are bouncing. I used to have Gmail, but then I got wise and switched to Zoho mail, and things got better ... for a while. Then I started getting the same messages.

I still get *most* of my messages. However, since I use Kmail on my local machine, I sometimes don't know about missed messages unless they get quoted by somebody else, or once in a blue moon when I actually log in to my webmail accounts. Messages from Michele Calgaro always get marked as spam; also, anything from the mysterious Liddell. Also I think one or two others sometimes.

Since I seem to get most messages at least in quotation, and can find the rest in my webmail accounts, I don't care enough to investigate; but it would be nice to know the causes of these issues.

Bill

You might also consider webmail as the problem. Among other things, webmail will not let you access it outside the US thru kmail and it often prevents sending mail outside the US! I also have the webmail kmail combo in my desktop and about once a month a perfectly good message will not appear in my desktop kmail, but it will show up in gmail!!!! so i really don't like gmail, thus i have started experimenting with thunderbird, i *would* like to have *one* working email setup.

On Wednesday 03 October 2018 06:51:14 Baron wrote:

Hi William,

On Wednesday 03 October 2018 15:48:21 William Morder wrote:

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On Wednesday 03 October 2018 06:46:05 Baron wrote:

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Hi John,

On Wednesday 03 October 2018 14:38:14 Pisini, John wrote:

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I'm on gmail as well. I have tried telling it they aren't spam and that works for a few messages and then drops them back to spam again.

On Wed, Oct 3, 2018, 9:35 AM Baron baron@linuxmaniac.net

wrote:

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Hi Guys,

Is there something going on with Google (Gmail) and the list mail ?

There isn't any list mail shown when I go into my mail account. But I can see my post and John Pisini's reply on line.

Thanks John, but I've not had anything to go into the spam or waste bin folders.

-- Best Regards: Baron

This is crazy ! I've not had a post from the list since the 16/09/18, until I posted that I wasn't getting any. I went and checked my acc and there were no posts from the lists at all, not even in the spam folder. Then I make a post and hey presto, I'm getting my own mail and reply's back.

Weird !

Thanks John. At least it now seems to be working.

Google's algorithms know better than you what email you ought to be reading.

For what it's worth, I've been getting warnings from the Trinity mailing list that messages sent to my accounts are bouncing. I used to have Gmail, but then I got wise and switched to Zoho mail, and things got better ... for a while. Then I started getting the same messages.

I still get *most* of my messages. However, since I use Kmail on my local machine, I sometimes don't know about missed messages unless they get quoted by somebody else, or once in a blue moon when I actually log in to my webmail accounts. Messages from Michele Calgaro always get marked as spam; also, anything from the mysterious Liddell. Also I think one or two others sometimes.

Since I seem to get most messages at least in quotation, and can find the rest in my webmail accounts, I don't care enough to investigate; but it would be nice to know the causes of these issues.

Bill

What I find curious is as soon as I started posting to the list, I start seeing new posts, but there is absolutely nothing to see if I go look at my Goggle acc.

On Thursday 04 October 2018 21:35:58 J Leslie Turriff wrote:

On 2018-10-03 09:48:21 William Morder wrote:

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On Wednesday 03 October 2018 06:46:05 Baron wrote:

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Hi John,

On Wednesday 03 October 2018 14:38:14 Pisini, John wrote:

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I'm on gmail as well. I have tried telling it they aren't spam and that works for a few messages and then drops them back to spam again.

On Wed, Oct 3, 2018, 9:35 AM Baron baron@linuxmaniac.net wrote:

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Hi Guys,

Is there something going on with Google (Gmail) and the list mail ?

There isn't any list mail shown when I go into my mail account. But I can see my post and John Pisini's reply on line.

Thanks John, but I've not had anything to go into the spam or waste bin folders.

-- Best Regards: Baron

This is crazy ! I've not had a post from the list since the 16/09/18, until I posted that I wasn't getting any. I went and checked my acc and there were no posts from the lists at all, not even in the spam folder. Then I make a post and hey presto, I'm getting my own mail and reply's back.

Weird !

Thanks John. At least it now seems to be working.

Google's algorithms know better than you what email you ought to be reading.

For what it's worth, I've been getting warnings from the Trinity mailing list that messages sent to my accounts are bouncing. I used to have Gmail, but then I got wise and switched to Zoho mail, and things got better ... for a while. Then I started getting the same messages.

I still get *most* of my messages. However, since I use Kmail on my local machine, I sometimes don't know about missed messages unless they get quoted by somebody else, or once in a blue moon when I actually log in to my webmail accounts. Messages from Michele Calgaro always get marked as spam; also, anything from the mysterious Liddell. Also I think one or two others sometimes.

Since I seem to get most messages at least in quotation, and can find the rest in my webmail accounts, I don't care enough to investigate; but it would be nice to know the causes of these issues.

Bill

Because I use kMail, I always turn off the spam filtering in my mail provider's configuration and write my own local filters.

Leslie

Same here, except that it doesn't work. I turn off all spam filtering in my webmail accounts; and since I set Kmail to receive text-only (with the option to click and view html), it doesn't much matter if I get spam, because I can just delete it. (And when I enough spam to be bothered, I have the option of using kshowmail, which allows me to preview emails and delete them from the server without ever downloading them. It works nicely in tandem with Kmail, but since dropping my old Earthlink account, I haven't needed to use it.)

The thing is, I switched from Earthlink about 18 months ago, I changed first to Gmail, and now use Zoho as my primary account; but now I don't really get any spam to be filtered (except of course from Felix's Earthlink account!). There is no reason for either Gmail or Zoho to block anything, because I get virtually no spam, so I don't understand why, despite all my best efforts, certain emails keep getting blocked by default. I can only guess that their email addresses have turned up on some "master spam list" out there that is used by various providers. I trust that they have been blocked by mistake, and are not really spammers, but it's annoying.

Anyway, one keeps moving forward. I check my webmail occasionally, and check the online record of the mailing list on Trinity's pages, and (unless I have some sudden flash of insight) will leave such issues for others to sort out.

Bill

On Friday 05 October 2018 13:45:17 J Leslie Turriff wrote:

On 2018-10-05 01:12:29 William Morder wrote:

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On Thursday 04 October 2018 21:35:58 J Leslie Turriff wrote:

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On 2018-10-03 09:48:21 William Morder wrote:

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On Wednesday 03 October 2018 06:46:05 Baron wrote:

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Hi John,

On Wednesday 03 October 2018 14:38:14 Pisini, John wrote:

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I'm on gmail as well. I have tried telling it they aren't spam and that works for a few messages and then drops them back to spam again.

On Wed, Oct 3, 2018, 9:35 AM Baron baron@linuxmaniac.net wrote: > Hi Guys, > > Is there something going on with Google (Gmail) and the list > mail ? > > There isn't any list mail shown when I go into my mail account. > But I can see my post and John Pisini's reply on line. > > Thanks John, but I've not had anything to go into the spam or > waste bin folders. > > -- > Best Regards: > Baron

This is crazy ! I've not had a post from the list since the 16/09/18, until I posted that I wasn't getting any. I went and checked my acc and there were no posts from the lists at all, not even in the spam folder. Then I make a post and hey presto, I'm getting my own mail and reply's back.

Weird !

Thanks John. At least it now seems to be working.

Google's algorithms know better than you what email you ought to be reading.

For what it's worth, I've been getting warnings from the Trinity mailing list that messages sent to my accounts are bouncing. I used to have Gmail, but then I got wise and switched to Zoho mail, and things got better ... for a while. Then I started getting the same messages.

I still get *most* of my messages. However, since I use Kmail on my local machine, I sometimes don't know about missed messages unless they get quoted by somebody else, or once in a blue moon when I actually log in to my webmail accounts. Messages from Michele Calgaro always get marked as spam; also, anything from the mysterious Liddell. Also I think one or two others sometimes.

Since I seem to get most messages at least in quotation, and can find the rest in my webmail accounts, I don't care enough to investigate; but it would be nice to know the causes of these issues.

Bill

Because I use kMail, I always turn off the spam filtering in my mail provider's configuration and write my own local filters.

Leslie

Same here, except that it doesn't work. I turn off all spam filtering in my webmail accounts; and since I set Kmail to receive text-only (with the option to click and view html), it doesn't much matter if I get spam, because I can just delete it. (And when I enough spam to be bothered, I have the option of using kshowmail, which allows me to preview emails and delete them from the server without ever downloading them. It works nicely in tandem with Kmail, but since dropping my old Earthlink account, I haven't needed to use it.)

The thing is, I switched from Earthlink about 18 months ago, I changed first to Gmail, and now use Zoho as my primary account; but now I don't really get any spam to be filtered (except of course from Felix's Earthlink account!). There is no reason for either Gmail or Zoho to block anything, because I get virtually no spam, so I don't understand why, despite all my best efforts, certain emails keep getting blocked by default. I can only guess that their email addresses have turned up on some "master spam list" out there that is used by various providers. I trust that they have been blocked by mistake, and are not really spammers, but it's annoying.

Anyway, one keeps moving forward. I check my webmail occasionally, and check the online record of the mailing list on Trinity's pages, and (unless I have some sudden flash of insight) will leave such issues for others to sort out.

Bill

Hmm... well, if you actually have SpamAssassin and/or BogoFilter running, it's possible that the databases they've built up are causing false positives? Perhaps there's a way to flush their content and start them fresh?

Leslie

I don't use them. I only use kshowmail and kmail. Spam gets marked by Google or Zoho, despite all my efforts to turn off all filters.

Bill

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On 10/3/18, Pisini, John pisinij@csps.com wrote:

I'm on gmail as well. I have tried telling it they aren't spam and that works for a few messages and then drops them back to spam again.

Mine does that as well.

Sorry about the previous email and the top posting, but yes several messages a day go into the spam box on the webmail. It's been happening for years, I have just learned to deal with it.

On 10/4/18, Michael Henry bromichaelhenry@gmail.com wrote:

Mine does that as well.

On 10/3/18, Pisini, John pisinij@csps.com wrote:

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I'm on gmail as well. I have tried telling it they aren't spam and that works for a few messages and then drops them back to spam again.

On Wed, Oct 3, 2018, 9:35 AM Baron baron@linuxmaniac.net wrote:

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Hi Guys,

Is there something going on with Google (Gmail) and the list mail ?

There isn't any list mail shown when I go into my mail account. But I can see my post and John Pisini's reply on line.

Thanks John, but I've not had anything to go into the spam or waste bin folders.

-- Best Regards: Baron

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