2 Mar
2021
2 Mar
'21
1:23 a.m.
Unfortunately, I am still having issues with Thunderbird and Firefox,
where Thunderbird creates Blogs & News Feeds, instead of sending a link
for Firefox to open. But if Thunderbird mysteriously behaves as expected
and it sends the link to Firefox to open, Firefox will then display it's
not the default web browser, yet running a command to check the default
browser, shows it's Firefox. I have attached a screengrab of the two
windows.
Is there any harm in uninstalling Konqueror from TDE and using something
else as a file manager? The only other solution I see, would be to
uninstall both Firefox and Thunderbird and use Vivaldi and it's mail
client (after it's turned on) and use that from now on.
OS: Debian 10 stable
Thanks in advance.
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2 Mar
2 Mar
1:35 a.m.
On 3/1/21 8:23 PM, Edward wrote:
Unfortunately, I am still having issues with
Thunderbird and Firefox,
where Thunderbird creates Blogs & News Feeds, instead of sending a link
for Firefox to open. But if Thunderbird mysteriously behaves as expected
and it sends the link to Firefox to open, Firefox will then display it's
not the default web browser, yet running a command to check the default
browser, shows it's Firefox. I have attached a screengrab of the two
windows.
Is there any harm in uninstalling Konqueror from TDE and using something
else as a file manager? The only other solution I see, would be to
uninstall both Firefox and Thunderbird and use Vivaldi and it's mail
client (after it's turned on) and use that from now on.
OS: Debian 10 stable
Brief update: If I log out of the session, then log back in, Firefox
shows it's the default web browser now and in clicking a link in a
different email, Thunderbird correctly sent it to Firefox, without
creating Blogs & News Feeds.
Could there be something in TDE causing the described behavior?
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2:08 a.m.
On Monday 01 March 2021, Edward wrote:
On 3/1/21 8:23 PM, Edward wrote:
I've never experience this
but I would guess this has more to do with
firefox/thunderbird setting then tde.
Try looking at all the config files. Also have you tried a clean, new user to
see if you can recreate the problem? Try creating "ed2" and see what happens?
I know this isn't much help but my experience with odd behaviors has always
led me to one thing. I ^(*&^) something up. So I started with a fresh user,
making incremental backups of said user as I slowly recreated me previous
setup.
Kate
Unfortunately, I am still having issues with
Thunderbird and Firefox,
where Thunderbird creates Blogs & News Feeds, instead of sending a link
for Firefox to open. But if Thunderbird mysteriously behaves as expected
and it sends the link to Firefox to open, Firefox will then display it's
not the default web browser, yet running a command to check the default
browser, shows it's Firefox. I have attached a screengrab of the two
windows.
Is there any harm in uninstalling Konqueror from TDE and using something
else as a file manager? The only other solution I see, would be to
uninstall both Firefox and Thunderbird and use Vivaldi and it's mail
client (after it's turned on) and use that from now on.
OS: Debian 10 stable
Brief update: If I log out of the session, then log back in, Firefox
shows it's the default web browser now and in clicking a link in a
different email, Thunderbird correctly sent it to Firefox, without
creating Blogs & News Feeds.
Could there be something in TDE causing the described behavior?
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____________________________________________________
13 Mar
13 Mar
9:08 p.m.
On 3/1/21 9:08 PM, BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote:
On Monday 01 March 2021, Edward wrote:
Firefox keeps switching between being the default browser, to not being
the default browser, sometimes during the same session. I don't know
what's causing this, except that I have seen this behavior if I launch
Konqueror or PCManFM-Qt as a file manager.
I also have Vivaldi installed, both Stable and Snapshot, but I'm
wondering if the system is treating Konqueror as a web browser, not a
file manager... I could always try uninstalling Konqueror, but I don't
know if that would cause other issues with TDE.
--
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On 3/1/21 8:23 PM, Edward wrote:
I've never experience
this but I would guess this has more to do with
firefox/thunderbird setting then tde.
Try looking at all the config files. Also have you tried a clean, new user to
see if you can recreate the problem? Try creating "ed2" and see what happens?
I know this isn't much help but my experience with odd behaviors has always
led me to one thing. I ^(*&^) something up. So I started with a fresh user,
making incremental backups of said user as I slowly recreated me previous
setup.
Kate Unfortunately, I am still having issues with
Thunderbird and Firefox,
where Thunderbird creates Blogs & News Feeds, instead of sending a link
for Firefox to open. But if Thunderbird mysteriously behaves as expected
and it sends the link to Firefox to open, Firefox will then display it's
not the default web browser, yet running a command to check the default
browser, shows it's Firefox. I have attached a screengrab of the two
windows.
Is there any harm in uninstalling Konqueror from TDE and using something
else as a file manager? The only other solution I see, would be to
uninstall both Firefox and Thunderbird and use Vivaldi and it's mail
client (after it's turned on) and use that from now on.
OS: Debian 10 stable
Brief update: If I log out of the session, then log back in,
Firefox
shows it's the default web browser now and in clicking a link in a
different email, Thunderbird correctly sent it to Firefox, without
creating Blogs & News Feeds.
Could there be something in TDE causing the described behavior?
--
Linux. A Continual Learning Experience.
____________________________________________________
9:17 p.m.
On 3/13/21 4:08 PM, Edward wrote:
Firefox keeps switching between being the default browser, to not
being the default browser, sometimes during the same session. I don't
know what's causing this, except that I have seen this behavior if I
launch Konqueror or PCManFM-Qt as a file manager.
I also have Vivaldi installed, both Stable and Snapshot, but I'm
wondering if the system is treating Konqueror as a web browser, not a
file manager... I could always try uninstalling Konqueror, but I don't
know if that would cause other issues with TDE.
xdg-settings indicates Firefox *is* the default browser, but Firefox
says it *isn't*.
There is a problem, somewhere...
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9:20 p.m.
An additional attachment. One command says Vivaldi (stable) is the
default, while xdg-settings says it's Firefox...
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15 Mar
15 Mar
9:50 a.m.
Am Samstag, 13. März 2021 schrieb Edward:
An additional attachment. One command says Vivaldi
(stable) is the
default, while xdg-settings says it's Firefox...
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Hi Edward,
AFAIK, there are a few different mechanisms to set "default browser":
1. Debian system, update-alternatives
2. Freedesktop.org: XDG, xdg-settings
3. TDE: configured via file extensions
3b. PCManFM-Qt: probably doesn't use the TDE mechanism and may have
another way to start programs for certain types of files
4. Firefox: (don't know how FF does it on a Linux system, I assume it
uses one of the first two)
Speculation: it may be possible, that konqueror starts an HTML-file with
konqueror and PCManFM with firefox through their own mechanisms…
Correct me if I'm wrong.
HTH
Cheers, Stefan
7:55 p.m.
New subject: [users] Still having issues with Firefox and Thunderbird on TDE
On 2021-03-15 04:50:41 Stefan Krusche via tde-users wrote:
Am Samstag, 13. März 2021 schrieb Edward:
In TDE, configured via Trinity Control Center => TDE Components => Default
Applications
=> Web Browser
Leslie
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An additional attachment. One command says
Vivaldi (stable) is the
default, while xdg-settings says it's Firefox...
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Hi Edward,
AFAIK, there are a few different mechanisms to set "default browser":
1. Debian system, update-alternatives
2. Freedesktop.org: XDG, xdg-settings
3. TDE: configured via file extensions
3b. PCManFM-Qt: probably doesn't use the TDE mechanism and may have
another way to start programs for certain types of files
4. Firefox: (don't know how FF does it on a Linux system, I assume it
uses one of the first two)
Speculation: it may be possible, that konqueror starts an HTML-file with
konqueror and PCManFM with firefox through their own mechanisms…
Correct me if I'm wrong.
HTH
8:03 p.m.
New subject: [users] Still having issues with Firefox and Thunderbird on TDE
On 3/15/21 3:55 PM, J Leslie Turriff wrote:
In TDE, configured via Trinity Control Center =>
TDE Components => Default Applications
=> Web Browser
Leslie
And this is what that screen shows:
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8:20 p.m.
New subject: [users] [users] Still having issues with Firefox and Thunderbird on TDE
On 2021-03-15 15:03:48 Edward wrote:
On 3/15/21 3:55 PM, J Leslie Turriff wrote:
I've never used it that way; I've always explicitly named my preferred browser.
Leslie
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tde-config: 1.0
In TDE, configured via Trinity Control Center
=> TDE Components =>
Default Applications => Web Browser
Leslie
And this is what that screen shows:
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16 Mar
16 Mar
9:04 a.m.
New subject: [users] Still having issues with Firefox and Thunderbird on TDE
Am Montag, 15. März 2021 schrieb Edward:
On 3/15/21 3:55 PM, J Leslie Turriff wrote:
Alright. I didn't think about that one. Point three of my previous post
referred to another configuration option:
Trinity Control Center => TDE Components => File Associations =>
Pattern=html …
On my system this is configured to use konqueror. Every local file with
an ending of .htm|.html|.HTM|.HTML will be opende in konqueror.
Under Default Applications => Web Browser I configured another browser
and just like it says on the screenshot provided from you it opens all
the html links from inside TDE apps in that other browser.
Cheers, Stefan
In TDE, configured via Trinity Control Center
=> TDE Components =>
Default Applications => Web Browser
Leslie
And this is what that screen shows:
10:36 a.m.
New subject: [users] Still having issues with Firefox and Thunderbird on TDE
Am Dienstag, 16. März 2021 schrieb Stefan Krusche via tde-users:
Under Default Applications => Web Browser I
configured another
browser and just like it says on the screenshot provided from you it
opens all the html links from inside TDE apps in that other browser.
"html links" meaning URLs: "http(s)://someserver.abc"
13 Mar
13 Mar
10:21 p.m.
On Sat, 13 Mar 2021, Edward wrote:
On 3/13/21 4:08 PM, Edward wrote:
FWIW I see the same "update-alternatives --config x-www-browser" and
"xdg-settings get default-web-browser" mis-matches.
jonesy@nix5:~$ update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
There are 7 choices for the alternative x-www-browser (providing
/usr/bin/x-www-browser).
Selection Path Priority Status
------------------------------------------------------------
* 0 /usr/bin/brave-browser-stable 201 auto mode
1 /opt/trinity/bin/konqueror 100 manual mode
2 /usr/bin/brave-browser-stable 201 manual mode
3 /usr/bin/chromium-browser 40 manual mode
4 /usr/bin/firefox 40 manual mode
5 /usr/bin/opera 120 manual mode
6 /usr/bin/palemoon 40 manual mode
7 /usr/bin/vivaldi-stable 200 manual mode
Press <enter> to keep the current choice[*], or type selection number:
jonesy@nix5:~$ xdg-settings get default-web-browser
firefox.desktop
jonesy@nix5:~$
All-in-all I don't really care which browser is my "default" browser....
:-)
Jonesy
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Firefox keeps switching between being the default browser, to not
being the default browser, sometimes during the same session. I don't
know what's causing this, except that I have seen this behavior if I
launch Konqueror or PCManFM-Qt as a file manager.
I also have Vivaldi installed, both Stable and Snapshot, but I'm
wondering if the system is treating Konqueror as a web browser, not a
file manager... I could always try uninstalling Konqueror, but I don't
know if that would cause other issues with TDE.
xdg-settings indicates Firefox *is* the default browser, but Firefox
says it *isn't*.
There is a problem, somewhere...
10:29 p.m.
On 3/13/21 5:21 PM, Marvin Jones via tde-users wrote:
On Sat, 13 Mar 2021, Edward wrote:
The problem is that this scenario is also causing issues with
Thunderbird. If I open an e-mail and click a link, instead of the link
opening in Firefox, Thunderbird creates a new account titled 'Blogs &
News Feeds' automatically and doesn't pass the link to Firefox.
Thunderbird continues to do this until Firefox mysteriously becomes the
legitimate default browser again. Then if it does not become the default
browser (which appears to be the case per my screenshots), this process
will repeat itself all over again.
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On 3/13/21 4:08 PM, Edward wrote:
FWIW I see the same "update-alternatives
--config x-www-browser" and
"xdg-settings get default-web-browser" mis-matches.
jonesy@nix5:~$ update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
There are 7 choices for the alternative x-www-browser (providing
/usr/bin/x-www-browser).
Selection Path Priority Status
------------------------------------------------------------
* 0 /usr/bin/brave-browser-stable 201 auto mode
1 /opt/trinity/bin/konqueror 100 manual mode
2 /usr/bin/brave-browser-stable 201 manual mode
3 /usr/bin/chromium-browser 40 manual mode
4 /usr/bin/firefox 40 manual mode
5 /usr/bin/opera 120 manual mode
6 /usr/bin/palemoon 40 manual mode
7 /usr/bin/vivaldi-stable 200 manual mode
Press <enter> to keep the current choice[*], or type selection number:
jonesy@nix5:~$ xdg-settings get default-web-browser
firefox.desktop
jonesy@nix5:~$
All-in-all I don't really care which browser is my "default" browser....
:-)
Jonesy Firefox keeps switching between being the default
browser, to not
being the default browser, sometimes during the same session. I don't
know what's causing this, except that I have seen this behavior if I
launch Konqueror or PCManFM-Qt as a file manager.
I also have Vivaldi installed, both Stable and Snapshot, but I'm
wondering if the system is treating Konqueror as a web browser, not a
file manager... I could always try uninstalling Konqueror, but I don't
know if that would cause other issues with TDE.
xdg-settings indicates Firefox
*is* the default browser, but Firefox
says it *isn't*.
There is a problem, somewhere... 
15 Mar
15 Mar
4:45 a.m.
I think that maybe KDE was written before KDE existed. It might nit have
XDG variables. Im not sure though.
On Sat, Mar 13, 2021, 1:33 PM Edward <epp(a)caramail.com> wrote:
On 3/13/21 4:08 PM, Edward wrote:
Firefox keeps switching between being the default browser, to not
being the default browser, sometimes during the same session. I don't
know what's causing this, except that I have seen this behavior if I
launch Konqueror or PCManFM-Qt as a file manager.
I also have Vivaldi installed, both Stable and Snapshot, but I'm
wondering if the system is treating Konqueror as a web browser, not a
file manager... I could always try uninstalling Konqueror, but I don't
know if that would cause other issues with TDE.
xdg-settings indicates Firefox *is* the default browser, but Firefox
says it *isn't*.
There is a problem, somewhere...
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4:47 a.m.
Sorry KDE written before XDG existed.
On Sun, Mar 14, 2021, 9:45 PM James Leone <linuxcpa(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I think that maybe KDE was written before KDE existed.
It might nit have
XDG variables. Im not sure though.
On Sat, Mar 13, 2021, 1:33 PM Edward <epp(a)caramail.com> wrote:
On 3/13/21 4:08 PM, Edward wrote:
Firefox keeps switching between being the default browser, to not
being the default browser, sometimes during the same session. I don't
know what's causing this, except that I have seen this behavior if I
launch Konqueror or PCManFM-Qt as a file manager.
I also have Vivaldi installed, both Stable and Snapshot, but I'm
wondering if the system is treating Konqueror as a web browser, not a
file manager... I could always try uninstalling Konqueror, but I don't
know if that would cause other issues with TDE.
xdg-settings indicates Firefox *is* the default browser, but Firefox
says it *isn't*.
There is a problem, somewhere...
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5:25 a.m.
On Monday 15 March 2021 00:47:57 James Leone wrote:
Sorry KDE written before XDG existed.
It may well have been. I've been using it as an email agent since about
2000. But my question is, since everything but dissenter is running
fine, but it does not succeed in becomeing the default browser despite
telling it to become the default 2 or 3 times. Its working but alwas
ompplaining its not the default...
So my question is: Whatintuncket is this XDG?? Still on stretch, I do not
have an .xdgr directory thingy in my home dir.
Is this where dissenter looks to see if its the default?
On Sun, Mar 14, 2021, 9:45 PM James Leone
<linuxcpa(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> I think that maybe KDE was written before KDE existed. It might nit
> have XDG variables. Im not sure though.
>
> On Sat, Mar 13, 2021, 1:33 PM Edward <epp(a)caramail.com> wrote:
>> On 3/13/21 4:08 PM, Edward wrote:
>> > Firefox keeps switching between being the default browser, to not
>> > being the default browser, sometimes during the same session. I
>> > don't know what's causing this, except that I have seen this
>> > behavior if I launch Konqueror or PCManFM-Qt as a file manager.
>> >
>> > I also have Vivaldi installed, both Stable and Snapshot, but I'm
>> > wondering if the system is treating Konqueror as a web browser,
>> > not a file manager... I could always try uninstalling Konqueror,
>> > but I don't know if that would cause other issues with TDE.
>>
>> xdg-settings indicates Firefox *is* the default browser, but
>> Firefox says it *isn't*.
>>
>> There is a problem, somewhere...
>>
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>>
>>
>>
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2:23 p.m.
Ive had to set xdg variables manually in .profile more than once.
What happens if you manually set the variable in .profile before using TDE?
On Sun, Mar 14, 2021, 10:27 PM Gene Heskett via tde-users <
users(a)trinitydesktop.org> wrote:
On Monday 15 March 2021 00:47:57 James Leone wrote:
Sorry KDE written before XDG existed.
It may well have been. I've been using it as an email agent since about
2000. But my question is, since everything but dissenter is running
fine, but it does not succeed in becomeing the default browser despite
telling it to become the default 2 or 3 times. Its working but alwas
ompplaining its not the default...
So my question is: Whatintuncket is this XDG?? Still on stretch, I do not
have an .xdgr directory thingy in my home dir.
Is this where dissenter looks to see if its the default?
On Sun, Mar 14, 2021, 9:45 PM James Leone
<linuxcpa(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> I think that maybe KDE was written before KDE existed. It might nit
> have XDG variables. Im not sure though.
>
> On Sat, Mar 13, 2021, 1:33 PM Edward <epp(a)caramail.com> wrote:
>> On 3/13/21 4:08 PM, Edward wrote:
>> > Firefox keeps switching between being the default browser, to not
>> > being the default browser, sometimes during the same session. I
>> > don't know what's causing this, except that I have seen this
>> > behavior if I launch Konqueror or PCManFM-Qt as a file manager.
>> >
>> > I also have Vivaldi installed, both Stable and Snapshot, but I'm
>> > wondering if the system is treating Konqueror as a web browser,
>> > not a file manager... I could always try uninstalling Konqueror,
>> > but I don't know if that would cause other issues with TDE.
>>
>> xdg-settings indicates Firefox *is* the default browser, but
>> Firefox says it *isn't*.
>>
>> There is a problem, somewhere...
>>
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>>
>>
>>
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New subject: [users] Still having issues with Firefox and Thunderbird on TDE
On 2021-03-15 09:23:21 James Leone wrote:
From: James Leone <linuxcpa(a)gmail.com>
To: TDE Users <users(a)trinitydesktop.org>
Ive had to set xdg variables manually in .profile more than once.
What happens if you manually set the variable in .profile before using TDE?
On Sun, Mar 14, 2021, 10:27 PM Gene Heskett via tde-users
<users(a)trinitydesktop.org> wrote:
On Monday 15 March 2021 00:47:57 James Leone wrote:
XDG is part of a toolset intended to standardise configuration data across different
desktop environments.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedesktop.org
Leslie
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tde-config: 1.0
Sorry KDE written before XDG existed.
It may well have been. I've been using it as an email agent since about
2000. But my question is, since everything but dissenter is running
fine, but it does not succeed in becomeing the default browser despite
telling it to become the default 2 or 3 times. Its working but alwas
ompplaining its not the default...
So my question is: Whatintuncket is this XDG?? Still on stretch, I do not
have an .xdgr directory thingy in my home dir.
Is this where dissenter looks to see if its the default?
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