16 Jul
2020
16 Jul
'20
9:12 a.m.
On Thu, 16 Jul 2020, Gerhard Zintel wrote:
Hi Felmon,
On 16/07/2020 02:17, Felmon Davis wrote:
thank you and William and Nikolaus for help.
I have Debian/Trinity installed on a Zenbook UX330 which is why I thought it
safe to attempt it on this Zenbook UX433FAC-A5348T but my attempts have failed.
the installer craps out and sends me to the commandline. I have tried with
Debian Live and netinst, 4Q0S live and Devuan ASCII netinst.
I did disable Secure Boot without disastrous consequences, that is, the native
Windows Home still boots, etc.
I do not want to do too much 'surgery' since it is fresh bought and I can return
it if it's not too far from default state.
I wanted to boot up Linux, look around and then determine my install strategy. I
may be plotting my return strategy instead.
not sure how to diagnose. I see an error as follows:
'please fix 'fbdev' driver. fbdev didn't call xf86SetGamma to
initialise'. no
idea how to fix it.
Gerhard, Nikolaus, how do you get '|' on a German keyboard? I can't do
a 'dmesg | less' without it. (actually the keyboard is German but I
suppose the key setup is American.)
f.
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I have a new notebook I want to install
Debian/Trinity on.
'Secure Boot' is turned on. maybe this doesn't account for the problems
I'm
having but my question is about it.
in the BIOS I can turn it off but it says doing so "requires platform
reset."
turning it off within Windows simply reboots to the BIOS.
I can't figure out if this is just another word for 'reboot' or does it have
other consequences? googling yields no clear (or trustworthy) answer.
it's an Asus Zenbook with Windows 10 Home; BIOS is American Megatrends
version 300.
No answer about "platform reset" maybe I simply do not remember but - I have
installed Linux Mint / Mate (including Trinity) on two Asus Zenbooks without a
problem. The last was a Zenbook Flip of a friend. 
16 Jul
16 Jul
9:18 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] what is "platform reset"?
Anno domini 11:12:15 Thu, 16 Jul 2020 +0200 (CEST)
Felmon Davis scripsit:
On Thu, 16 Jul 2020, Gerhard Zintel wrote:
<altgr>+"<" - "altgr"is right of space, "<" is
left of "Y" - at least on keyboards.
@fbdev: most likely your graphic card is not supported. You might try MX Linux and/or Arch
and see how far that'll thke you. Most likely you will not be happy at the end of the
day.
Nik
Hi Felmon,
On 16/07/2020 02:17, Felmon Davis wrote:
thank you and William and Nikolaus for help.
I have Debian/Trinity installed on a Zenbook UX330 which is why I thought it
safe to attempt it on this Zenbook UX433FAC-A5348T but my attempts have failed.
the installer craps out and sends me to the commandline. I have tried with
Debian Live and netinst, 4Q0S live and Devuan ASCII netinst.
I did disable Secure Boot without disastrous consequences, that is, the native
Windows Home still boots, etc.
I do not want to do too much 'surgery' since it is fresh bought and I can return
it if it's not too far from default state.
I wanted to boot up Linux, look around and then determine my install strategy. I
may be plotting my return strategy instead.
not sure how to diagnose. I see an error as follows:
'please fix 'fbdev' driver. fbdev didn't call xf86SetGamma to
initialise'. no
idea how to fix it.
Gerhard, Nikolaus, how do you get '|' on a German keyboard? I can't do
a 'dmesg | less' without it. (actually the keyboard is German but I
suppose the key setup is American.) I have a new notebook I want to install
Debian/Trinity on.
'Secure Boot' is turned on. maybe this doesn't account for the problems
I'm
having but my question is about it.
in the BIOS I can turn it off but it says doing so "requires platform
reset."
turning it off within Windows simply reboots to the BIOS.
I can't figure out if this is just another word for 'reboot' or does it have
other consequences? googling yields no clear (or trustworthy) answer.
it's an Asus Zenbook with Windows 10 Home; BIOS is American Megatrends
version 300.
No answer about "platform reset" maybe I simply do not remember but - I have
installed Linux Mint / Mate (including Trinity) on two Asus Zenbooks without a
problem. The last was a Zenbook Flip of a friend.
f.
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On Thu, 16 Jul 2020, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Anno domini 11:12:15 Thu, 16 Jul 2020 +0200 (CEST)
Felmon Davis scripsit:
thank you.
the Mediamarkt site calls it "Intel UHD Grafik 620"; I also think I'll
have problems with wi-fi - can't find my note about it but it was
something like "intel wifi ax200."
I'll give it a shot with MX then failing that, take it back to the
store.
Windows 10 Home has become pretty bad. it will try to force you to use
a Microsoft Store Account if it detects internet. and the amount of
personal information it helpfully solicits unless you turn off the
(many) defaults is overwhelming.
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I wanted to boot up Linux, look around and then determine my install strategy. I
may be plotting my return strategy instead.
not sure how to diagnose. I see an error as follows:
'please fix 'fbdev' driver. fbdev didn't call xf86SetGamma to
initialise'. no
idea how to fix it.
Gerhard, Nikolaus, how do you get '|' on a German keyboard? I can't do
a 'dmesg | less' without it. (actually the keyboard is German but I
suppose the key setup is American.)
<altgr>+"<" - "altgr"is right of space, "<" is
left of "Y" - at least on keyboards.
@fbdev: most likely your graphic card is not supported. You might try MX Linux and/or
Arch and see how far that'll thke you. Most likely you will not be happy at the end of
the day. 
9:49 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] what is "platform reset"?
On Thursday 16 July 2020 11.42:08 Felmon Davis wrote:
the Mediamarkt site calls it "Intel UHD Grafik
620"; I also think I'll
have problems with wi-fi - can't find my note about it but it was
something like "intel wifi ax200."
Maybe you could try booting Deepin just to see. It's Debian based but usually
rather cutting edge.
If you have very high resolution you'll probably end up with toubles setting
up TDE (I remember this with some chinese Chuwi stuff).
Thierry
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10:01 a.m.
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On Thu, 16 Jul 2020, Thierry de Coulon wrote:
On Thursday 16 July 2020 11.42:08 Felmon Davis wrote:
ok, will try.
the Mediamarkt site calls it "Intel UHD
Grafik 620"; I also think I'll
have problems with wi-fi - can't find my note about it but it was
something like "intel wifi ax200."
Maybe you could try booting Deepin just to see. It's Debian based but usually
rather cutting edge. If you have very high resolution you'll probably
end up with toubles setting
up TDE (I remember this with some chinese Chuwi stuff).
yeah, I know. I believe Nikolaus among others contributed to helping
me fix my current Zenbook's resolution.
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12:44 p.m.
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On Thu, 16 Jul 2020, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Anno domini 11:12:15 Thu, 16 Jul 2020 +0200 (CEST)
Felmon Davis scripsit:
I gave Linux Mint a try and that got me a bit further.
I got a nice Mint logo, in brilliant green, before it crashed to the
command line.
at the command line I have use of all utilities, for instance I do a
'dmesg' and get a ton of information.
I can't do the '|' thing because I think the keyboard mapping is
American. I need to switch to German mapping.
it doesn't see wifi though it caught the wifi in my wifi-dongle, a usb
device with an antenna, TP-link TL-WN722N.
so essentially Mint boots to the command line but can't do the DE. it
provides nice clear fonts (in color) and even showed the Mint logo.
how do I get keyboard layout to match up? I did
sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
and chose one of the German locales.
using the following provides no guidance; I need a generic German
keyboard.
sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
I'm a bit encouraged by Mint but likely the machine goes back to the
store. I couldn't get Deepin. I'll try MX.
f.
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On Thu, 16 Jul 2020, Gerhard Zintel wrote:
<altgr>+"<" - "altgr"is right of space, "<" is
left of "Y" - at least on keyboards.
@fbdev: most likely your graphic card is not supported. You might try MX Linux and/or
Arch and see how far that'll thke you. Most likely you will not be happy at the end of
the day. Hi Felmon,
On 16/07/2020 02:17, Felmon Davis wrote:
thank you and William and Nikolaus for help.
I have Debian/Trinity installed on a Zenbook UX330 which is why I thought it
safe to attempt it on this Zenbook UX433FAC-A5348T but my attempts have failed.
the installer craps out and sends me to the commandline. I have tried with
Debian Live and netinst, 4Q0S live and Devuan ASCII netinst.
I did disable Secure Boot without disastrous consequences, that is, the native
Windows Home still boots, etc.
I do not want to do too much 'surgery' since it is fresh bought and I can return
it if it's not too far from default state.
I wanted to boot up Linux, look around and then determine my install strategy. I
may be plotting my return strategy instead.
not sure how to diagnose. I see an error as follows:
'please fix 'fbdev' driver. fbdev didn't call xf86SetGamma to
initialise'. no
idea how to fix it.
Gerhard, Nikolaus, how do you get '|' on a German keyboard? I can't do
a 'dmesg | less' without it. (actually the keyboard is German but I
suppose the key setup is American.) I have a new notebook I want to install
Debian/Trinity on.
'Secure Boot' is turned on. maybe this doesn't account for the problems
I'm
having but my question is about it.
in the BIOS I can turn it off but it says doing so "requires platform
reset."
turning it off within Windows simply reboots to the BIOS.
I can't figure out if this is just another word for 'reboot' or does it have
other consequences? googling yields no clear (or trustworthy) answer.
it's an Asus Zenbook with Windows 10 Home; BIOS is American Megatrends
version 300.
No answer about "platform reset" maybe I simply do not remember but - I have
installed Linux Mint / Mate (including Trinity) on two Asus Zenbooks without a
problem. The last was a Zenbook Flip of a friend. 
1:21 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] what is "platform reset"?
On Thursday 16 July 2020 05:44:20 Felmon Davis wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jul 2020, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Here's a crazy thought. Why not choose German - DE when installing, when asked
to choose language? (I am thinking of the Devuan netinstall version, which is
old-school Debian.)
Then maybe you can deal with adding or changing language later. I am assuming
that you read or speak German well enough for this. At least then you'll see
if you have that character available, and if you can advance farther in the
installation process.
There are some keyboard mapping tricks you can do within Trinity (and probably
other DEs, too), but you have to get it installed first.
Bill
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Anno domini 11:12:15 Thu, 16 Jul 2020 +0200
(CEST)
Felmon Davis scripsit:
I gave Linux Mint a try and that got me a bit further.
I got a nice Mint logo, in brilliant green, before it crashed to the
command line.
at the command line I have use of all utilities, for instance I do a
'dmesg' and get a ton of information.
I can't do the '|' thing because I think the keyboard mapping is
American. I need to switch to German mapping.
it doesn't see wifi though it caught the wifi in my wifi-dongle, a usb
device with an antenna, TP-link TL-WN722N.
so essentially Mint boots to the command line but can't do the DE. it
provides nice clear fonts (in color) and even showed the Mint logo.
how do I get keyboard layout to match up? I did
sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
and chose one of the German locales.
using the following provides no guidance; I need a generic German
keyboard.
sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
I'm a bit encouraged by Mint but likely the machine goes back to the
store. I couldn't get Deepin. I'll try MX.
f. On Thu, 16 Jul 2020, Gerhard Zintel wrote:
<altgr>+"<" - "altgr"is right of space, "<" is
left of "Y" - at least on
keyboards.
@fbdev: most likely your graphic card is not supported. You might try MX
Linux and/or Arch and see how far that'll thke you. Most likely you will
not be happy at the end of the day. Hi Felmon,
On 16/07/2020 02:17, Felmon Davis wrote:
> I have a new notebook I want to install Debian/Trinity on.
>
> 'Secure Boot' is turned on. maybe this doesn't account for the
> problems I'm having but my question is about it.
>
> in the BIOS I can turn it off but it says doing so "requires platform
> reset."
> turning it off within Windows simply reboots to the BIOS.
>
> I can't figure out if this is just another word for 'reboot' or does
> it have other consequences? googling yields no clear (or trustworthy)
> answer.
>
> it's an Asus Zenbook with Windows 10 Home; BIOS is American Megatrends
> version 300.
No answer about "platform reset" maybe I simply do not remember but - I
have installed Linux Mint / Mate (including Trinity) on two Asus
Zenbooks without a problem. The last was a Zenbook Flip of a friend.
thank you and William and Nikolaus for help.
I have Debian/Trinity installed on a Zenbook UX330 which is why I
thought it safe to attempt it on this Zenbook UX433FAC-A5348T but my
attempts have failed.
the installer craps out and sends me to the commandline. I have tried
with Debian Live and netinst, 4Q0S live and Devuan ASCII netinst.
I did disable Secure Boot without disastrous consequences, that is, the
native Windows Home still boots, etc.
I do not want to do too much 'surgery' since it is fresh bought and I
can return it if it's not too far from default state.
I wanted to boot up Linux, look around and then determine my install
strategy. I may be plotting my return strategy instead.
not sure how to diagnose. I see an error as follows:
'please fix 'fbdev' driver. fbdev didn't call xf86SetGamma to
initialise'. no idea how to fix it.
Gerhard, Nikolaus, how do you get '|' on a German keyboard? I can't do
a 'dmesg | less' without it. (actually the keyboard is German but I
suppose the key setup is American.)
1:42 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] what is "platform reset"?
On Thu, 16 Jul 2020, William Morder via trinity-users wrote:
here's the problem or two: I don't mind choosing German but I am
hesitant to install because I may return the computer. I have to be
careful that Windows gets to set itself back to default in case I give
up and want to return it.
and the Live boot didn't give me a language option (unless I
overlooked it). must be some boot tricks I can try but right now I'm
going to look at MX.
Mint almost does the trick but again with installing, I may not get a
driver for the wifi and may not get a way to set up the Desktop.... a
lot of uncertainties.
I would love to have '|'!
--
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Verbum sat sapienti.
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using the
following provides no guidance; I need a generic German
keyboard.
sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
I'm a bit encouraged by Mint but likely the machine goes back to the
store. I couldn't get Deepin. I'll try MX.
f.
Here's a crazy thought. Why not choose German - DE when installing, when asked
to choose language? (I am thinking of the Devuan netinstall version, which is
old-school Debian.)
Then maybe you can deal with adding or changing language later. I am assuming
that you read or speak German well enough for this. At least then you'll see
if you have that character available, and if you can advance farther in the
installation process.
There are some keyboard mapping tricks you can do within Trinity (and probably
other DEs, too), but you have to get it installed first. 
1:58 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] what is "platform reset"?
On 16/07/2020 15:42, Felmon Davis wrote:
I would love to have '|'!
I normally search for the American keyboard layout (e.g. Wikipedia) and lookup
the keys.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_and_American_keyboards
Don't know if that helps.
Gerhard
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2:02 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] what is "platform reset"?
On Thu - 16 Jul 2020 14:42:06 Felmon Davis wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jul 2020, William Morder via trinity-users
wrote:
here's the problem or two: I don't mind choosing German but I am
hesitant to install because I may return the computer. I have to be
careful that Windows gets to set itself back to default in case I give
up and want to return it.
and the Live boot didn't give me a language option (unless I
overlooked it). must be some boot tricks I can try but right now I'm
going to look at MX.
Mint almost does the trick but again with installing, I may not get a
driver for the wifi and may not get a way to set up the Desktop.... a
lot of uncertainties.
I would love to have '|'!
You could install/use the character selector program as a temp measure
Lou
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using the
following provides no guidance; I need a generic German
keyboard.
sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
I'm a bit encouraged by Mint but likely the machine goes back to the
store. I couldn't get Deepin. I'll try MX.
f.
Here's a crazy thought. Why not choose German - DE when installing, when
asked to choose language? (I am thinking of the Devuan netinstall
version, which is old-school Debian.)
Then maybe you can deal with adding or changing language later. I am
assuming that you read or speak German well enough for this. At least
then you'll see if you have that character available, and if you can
advance farther in the installation process.
There are some keyboard mapping tricks you can do within Trinity (and
probably other DEs, too), but you have to get it installed first. 
2:07 p.m.
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On 16/07/2020 16:02, Lou Gogan wrote:
You could install/use the character selector program
as a temp measure
On console / terminal?! No graphics available for Felmon.
G
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2:43 p.m.
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On Thu, 16 Jul 2020, Gerhard Zintel wrote:
On 16/07/2020 16:02, Lou Gogan wrote:
yeah, that's the problem.
however I got my '|'!
I've booted to MX, specifically MX-19.2_ahs_x64.iso.
it crashes out of the DE to the command line or rather stalls on F7
but you get a command line at F1. the alt-gr+> trick works!
I think it's detected wi-fi! iwconfig yields some output for wlan0.
ah, 'nmcli device wifi list' shows various SSIDs!
'inxi -G' doesn't say much.
so that's brought me far. in principle I could install a command-line
only system.
not sure how much more I want to struggle but maybe I can get a DE
working.
f.
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You could install/use the character selector
program as a temp measure
On console / terminal?! No graphics available for Felmon.
G
3:06 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] what is "platform reset"?
On Thursday 16 July 2020 07:43:38 Felmon Davis wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jul 2020, Gerhard Zintel wrote:
Felix Miata mentioned something about installing TDE entirely by the
command-line. Now where is he when we need him?
Bill
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On 16/07/2020 16:02, Lou Gogan wrote:
yeah, that's the problem.
however I got my '|'!
I've booted to MX, specifically MX-19.2_ahs_x64.iso.
it crashes out of the DE to the command line or rather stalls on F7
but you get a command line at F1. the alt-gr+> trick works!
I think it's detected wi-fi! iwconfig yields some output for wlan0.
ah, 'nmcli device wifi list' shows various SSIDs!
'inxi -G' doesn't say much.
so that's brought me far. in principle I could install a command-line
only system.
not sure how much more I want to struggle but maybe I can get a DE
working.
f. You could install/use the character selector
program as a temp measure
On console / terminal?! No graphics available for Felmon.
G
3:36 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] what is "platform reset"?
On Thu, 16 Jul 2020, William Morder via trinity-users wrote:
On Thursday 16 July 2020 07:43:38 Felmon Davis wrote:
we don't need him!
well, we do actually, but not in this case - I GOT A DESKTOP!
I booted MX again; it's got a funny text-based options window - you
can select language etc. that helps.
but on the kernel parameter line I tried
amdgui.dc=0
which is a little ditty I found last night actually but lost track of.
now it's started a DE, seems to be some kind of xfce.
I'm going to try the little ditty on a Debian Live usb. the kernel on
this version of MX is:
Linux mx1 5.6.0-2-amd64
it's Buster of course.
resolution looks fine btw.
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On Thu, 16 Jul 2020, Gerhard Zintel wrote:
Felix Miata mentioned something about installing TDE entirely by the
command-line. Now where is he when we need him? On 16/07/2020 16:02, Lou Gogan wrote:
yeah, that's the problem.
however I got my '|'!
I've booted to MX, specifically MX-19.2_ahs_x64.iso.
it crashes out of the DE to the command line or rather stalls on F7
but you get a command line at F1. the alt-gr+> trick works!
I think it's detected wi-fi! iwconfig yields some output for wlan0.
ah, 'nmcli device wifi list' shows various SSIDs!
'inxi -G' doesn't say much.
so that's brought me far. in principle I could install a command-line
only system.
not sure how much more I want to struggle but maybe I can get a DE
working.
f. You could install/use the character selector
program as a temp measure
On console / terminal?! No graphics available for Felmon.
G
6:40 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] what is "platform reset"?
Anno domini 17:36:40 Thu, 16 Jul 2020 +0200 (CEST)
Felmon Davis scripsit:
On Thu, 16 Jul 2020, William Morder via trinity-users
wrote:
I'm a bit late to the party now :)
Ify can, stay away from systemd. i.e. MX is nice, IMO you can install TDE on it, too. And
Devuan of course :)
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On Thursday 16 July 2020 07:43:38 Felmon Davis wrote:
we don't need him!
well, we do actually, but not in this case - I GOT A DESKTOP!
I booted MX again; it's got a funny text-based options window - you
can select language etc. that helps.
but on the kernel parameter line I tried
amdgui.dc=0
which is a little ditty I found last night actually but lost track of.
now it's started a DE, seems to be some kind of xfce.
I'm going to try the little ditty on a Debian Live usb. the kernel on
this version of MX is:
Linux mx1 5.6.0-2-amd64
it's Buster of course.
resolution looks fine btw.
On Thu, 16 Jul 2020, Gerhard Zintel wrote:
Felix Miata mentioned something about installing TDE entirely by the
command-line. Now where is he when we need him? On 16/07/2020 16:02, Lou Gogan wrote:
> You could install/use the character selector program as a temp measure
On console / terminal?! No graphics available for Felmon.
G
yeah, that's the problem.
however I got my '|'!
I've booted to MX, specifically MX-19.2_ahs_x64.iso.
it crashes out of the DE to the command line or rather stalls on F7
but you get a command line at F1. the alt-gr+> trick works!
I think it's detected wi-fi! iwconfig yields some output for wlan0.
ah, 'nmcli device wifi list' shows various SSIDs!
'inxi -G' doesn't say much.
so that's brought me far. in principle I could install a command-line
only system.
not sure how much more I want to struggle but maybe I can get a DE
working.
f. 
8:15 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] what is "platform reset"?
On Thursday 16 July 2020 01:40:57 pm Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
I'm a bit late to the party now :)
Ify can, stay away from systemd. i.e. MX is nice, IMO you can install TDE
on it, too. And Devuan of course :)
I run TDE on MX, it works well, even supports Nvidia drivers. The TDE wiki
instructions are one release old, on my to do list to update (after I install
the current MX version, so don't hold your breath...).
Best,
Michael
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3:38 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] what is "platform reset"? (command line TDE install)
On Thursday 16 July 2020 10:06:55 am William Morder via trinity-users wrote:
Felix Miata mentioned something about installing TDE
entirely by the
command-line. Now where is he when we need him?
That may have been me, this is what I use (from a Debian derivative).
Basically put everything in simple shell scripts and copy it to the install
media so you’re not having to type everything from memory. Really useful to
add your bin dir and anything else you regularly use from the command line.
Hack and slash as needed.
Best,
Michael
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4:54 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] what is "platform reset"? (command line TDE install)
On Thursday 16 July 2020 08:38:16 Michael wrote:
On Thursday 16 July 2020 10:06:55 am William Morder
via trinity-users wrote:
No, I know definitely that I heard about it first from Felix, so I wanted to
give props where they were due. However, all contributors are welcome,
especially if they have solutions or handy tricks or workarounds.
Your scripts sound like just the thing, Michael, and I want to incorporate
something like this into my own process, because it takes me at least 5-6
hours to do a complete installation of Devuan netinstall and TDE, enough to
get it up and functioning so that I can resume my *actual* work, rather than
watching my life ebb away while I wait for packages to download; and if I
mess up one of the steps, it can take a couple days to get back to my own
version of "normal" -- so yeah, I'm interested in this topic, so that I can
streamline this part of it.
When I find a suitable laptop, I intend to follow in Felmon's footsteps, more
or less, except that I won't walk so straight a line to get there. Once I
have something like a test machine, where I can experiment and not worry
about disasters, I want to create a Devuan netinstall CD with TDE
repositories added; for now, though, this ranks too low for me to consider.
Bill
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Felix Miata mentioned something about installing
TDE entirely by the
command-line. Now where is he when we need him?
That may have been me, this is what I use (from a Debian derivative).
Basically put everything in simple shell scripts and copy it to the install
media so you’re not having to type everything from memory. Really useful
to add your bin dir and anything else you regularly use from the command
line. Hack and slash as needed.
Best,
Michael 
4:55 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] what is "platform reset"? (command line TDE install)
Michael composed on 2020-07-16 10:38 (UTC-0500):
William Morder wrote:
> Felix Miata mentioned something about installing
TDE entirely by the
> command-line. Now where is he when we need him?
That may have been me, this is what I use (from a
Debian derivative).
Basically put everything in simple shell scripts and copy it to the install
media so you’re not having to type everything from memory. Really useful to
add your bin dir and anything else you regularly use from the command line.
Hack and slash as needed.
The general method I use begins with Grub, and entries
such as those following,
in custom.cfg:
menuentry "Install openSUSE TW via HTTP" {
search --no-floppy --label --set=root p03
linuxefi /stw/linux showopts install=http://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/repo/oss
hostname=myhost hostip=192.168.###.###/24 gateway=192.168.###.### nameserver=8.8.8.8
net.ifnames=0 kexec_reboot=0
initrdefi /stw/initrd
}
menuentry "Install Buntu via HTTP" {
search --no-floppy --label --set=root p03
linuxefi /buntu/linux showopts vga=791 --- net.ifnames=0 netcfg/get_hostname=myhost
netcfg/get_domain=my.domain netcfg/disable_autoconfig=true
netcfg/get_ipaddress=192.168.###.###/24 netcfg/get_gateway=192.168.###.###
netcfg/get_nameservers=8.8.4.4 netcfg/confirm_static=true tasks=standard
base-installer/install-recommends=false
initrdefi /buntu/initrd.gz
}
menuentry "Install Debian via HTTP" {
search --no-floppy --label --set=root p03
linuxefi /deb10/linux showopts vga=791 --- net.ifnames=0 netcfg/get_hostname=myhost
netcfg/get_domain=my.domain netcfg/disable_autoconfig=true
netcfg/get_ipaddress=192.168.###.###/24 netcfg/get_gateway=192.168.###.###
netcfg/get_nameservers=8.8.4.4 netcfg/confirm_static=true tasks=standard
base-installer/install-recommends=false
initrdefi /deb10/initrd.gz
}
Ordinary installation media works too, but all that manual typing to edit the loader
line each time is a lot more work than selecting from a Grub menu. Since I partition
and format in advance, it's simple to save the installation kernel and initrd for
this
use. e.g. for Buster:
wget
http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/buster/main/installer-amd64/current/i…
wget
http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/buster/main/installer-amd64/current/i…
Once the minimal installation is complete and booting, I finish by following
instructions in the wiki, in particular:
"NOTE: tde-trinity package is a comprehensive meta-package. To install a minimalist
environment, replace tde-trinity with tdebase-trinity in the instructions below."
e.g. for Debian:
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt install tdebase-trinity tdebase-tdm
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5:46 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] what is "platform reset"? (command line TDE install)
On Thursday 16 July 2020 09:55:42 Felix Miata wrote:
Michael composed on 2020-07-16 10:38 (UTC-0500):
I told everybody it was true, Felix, but they didn't believe me.
;-)
Thanks for the quick how-to guide.
Bill
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William Morder wrote:
The general method I use begins with Grub, and entries such as those
following, in custom.cfg:
menuentry "Install openSUSE TW via HTTP" {
search --no-floppy --label --set=root p03
linuxefi /stw/linux showopts
install=http://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/repo/oss hostname=myhost
hostip=192.168.###.###/24 gateway=192.168.###.### nameserver=8.8.8.8
net.ifnames=0 kexec_reboot=0 initrdefi /stw/initrd
}
menuentry "Install Buntu via HTTP" {
search --no-floppy --label --set=root p03
linuxefi /buntu/linux showopts vga=791 --- net.ifnames=0
netcfg/get_hostname=myhost netcfg/get_domain=my.domain
netcfg/disable_autoconfig=true netcfg/get_ipaddress=192.168.###.###/24
netcfg/get_gateway=192.168.###.### netcfg/get_nameservers=8.8.4.4
netcfg/confirm_static=true tasks=standard
base-installer/install-recommends=false initrdefi /buntu/initrd.gz
}
menuentry "Install Debian via HTTP" {
search --no-floppy --label --set=root p03
linuxefi /deb10/linux showopts vga=791 --- net.ifnames=0
netcfg/get_hostname=myhost netcfg/get_domain=my.domain
netcfg/disable_autoconfig=true netcfg/get_ipaddress=192.168.###.###/24
netcfg/get_gateway=192.168.###.### netcfg/get_nameservers=8.8.4.4
netcfg/confirm_static=true tasks=standard
base-installer/install-recommends=false initrdefi /deb10/initrd.gz
}
Ordinary installation media works too, but all that manual typing to edit
the loader line each time is a lot more work than selecting from a Grub
menu. Since I partition and format in advance, it's simple to save the
installation kernel and initrd for this use. e.g. for Buster:
wget
http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/buster/main/installer-amd64/current/i
mages/netboot/debian-installer/amd64/linux wget
http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/buster/main/installer-amd64/current/i
mages/netboot/debian-installer/amd64/initrd.gz
Once the minimal installation is complete and booting, I finish by
following instructions in the wiki, in particular:
"NOTE: tde-trinity package is a comprehensive meta-package. To install a
minimalist environment, replace tde-trinity with tdebase-trinity in the
instructions below."
e.g. for Debian:
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt install tdebase-trinity tdebase-tdm Felix Miata mentioned something about installing
TDE entirely by the
command-line. Now where is he when we need him?
That may have been me, this is what I use (from a Debian derivative).
Basically put everything in simple shell scripts and copy it to the
install media so you’re not having to type everything from memory.
Really useful to add your bin dir and anything else you regularly use
from the command line. Hack and slash as needed. 
7:39 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: what is "platform reset"? (command line TDE install)
William Morder via trinity-users wrote:
it is actually called tdm-trinity and tdebase-trinity + tdm-trinity will
give you minimalistic TDE.
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e.g. for
Debian:
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt install tdebase-trinity tdebase-tdm
I told everybody it was true, Felix, but they didn't believe me.
7:55 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] what is "platform reset"? (command line TDE install)
deloptes composed on 2020-07-16 21:39 (UTC+0200):
William Morder via trinity-users wrote:
>> e.g. for Debian:
>> sudo apt-get update
>> sudo apt install tdebase-trinity tdebase-tdm
> I told everybody it was true, Felix, but they
didn't believe me.
it is actually called tdm-trinity and tdebase-trinity
+ tdm-trinity will
give you minimalistic TDE.
The correct names depend on the distro. In some, trinity or tdebase or tde is the
first string. In others, it's the last string, a frustrating inconsistency for
those who multiboot different distro families.
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6:36 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] what is "platform reset"?
Felmon Davis composed on 2020-07-16 16:43 (UTC+0200):
'inxi -G' doesn't say much.
-Gxx says more
-SGxxIza still more, because it shows kernel cmdline options that can affect
whether or not X works - without having to examine Xorg.0.log.
But, G* can only do all it's capable of from a running X session terminal,
depending on various X utilities to gather the desired info.
BTW, whatever $SUBJECT means, it's not something I've ever encountered or had use
for. Thus I didn't touch the thread until a keyword was added to it.
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17 Jul
17 Jul
1:08 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] what is "platform reset"?
On Thu, 16 Jul 2020, Felix Miata wrote:
Felmon Davis composed on 2020-07-16 16:43 (UTC+0200):
does look useful though I was dropped to a Grub shell so not sure how
many resources would be available to it.
'inxi -G' doesn't say much.
-Gxx says more
-SGxxIza still more, because it shows kernel cmdline options that can affect
whether or not X works - without having to examine Xorg.0.log.
But, G* can only do all it's capable of from a running X session terminal,
depending on various X utilities to gather the desired info. BTW, whatever $SUBJECT means, it's not something
I've ever encountered or had use
for. Thus I didn't touch the thread until a keyword was added to it.
me neither.
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16 Jul
16 Jul
2:06 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] what is "platform reset"?
Here in my (swiss) keyboard when I witch to US keyboard | is where $ is
(middle keyboard row, last right key, should be # or ' on the german
keyboard.
Thierry
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