You can install the beta test packages from the nightly builds for Natty. At this point they are fairly stable, but if you do run into problems please ask here or file a bug report. I suggest you start with a default Ubuntu (not Kubuntu) installation. Add these four lines to your /etc/apt/sources.list file: deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-nightly-build-de… natty main deb-src http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-nightly-build-de… natty main deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-nightly-builds/u… natty main deb-src http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-nightly-builds/u… natty main The, from a terminal, execute: sudo apt-get update sudo passwd <enter a temporary root password> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop-trinity sudo passwd -l Tim

On 09/12/11 12:34, Peter Laws wrote: Found the key line on http://www.trinitydesktop.org/installation.php#ubuntu Thanks! On my way! -- Peter Laws / N5UWY National Weather Center / Network Operations Center University of Oklahoma Information Technology plaws(a)ou.edu -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Feedback? Contact my director, Matt Younkins, younkinsm(a)ou.edu. Thank you!

On 09/12/2011 10:11 AM, Timothy Pearson wrote: Did that, but after numerous tries over several hours, all I get out of the install command, or a dist-upgrade, is a bunch of "failed to fetch" messages, with the occasional file downloaded. Is the repo down or something? -- PGP key: http://homestead-products.com/pubkey.htm

On 09/12/11 12:11, Timothy Pearson wrote: Gave up and reinstalled Natty. Did an update/dist-upgrade and rebooted. Added your repos did an update again. Still get the key errors: W: GPG error: http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net natty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 43F1DC4F2B8638D0 W: GPG error: http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net natty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 43F1DC4F2B8638D0 And this from apt-get when I install kubuntu-desktop-trinity WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! After all that ... it hung while booting. I power-cycled it and got the KDE^H^H^HTrinity login. Logged in and got a popup that said: There was an error setting up inter-process communications for KDE. The message returned by the system was: Could not read network connection list. /tmp/1571417411/.DCOPserver_toto2__0 Please check that the "dcopserver" program is running! Naturally, I clicked OK. Ended up with a frameless xterm window and no menus, etc, as if I was in a failsafe session (though there was a desktop image). Logout/login and get no popup, but still have a single xterm albeit with frame, menus, etc. Still no icons, menus, etc. Help? -- Peter Laws / N5UWY National Weather Center / Network Operations Center University of Oklahoma Information Technology plaws(a)ou.edu -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Feedback? Contact my director, Matt Younkins, younkinsm(a)ou.edu. Thank you!

This might be related to a feature that was added a couple of weeks ago. Try editing your /etc/trinity/kdm/kdmrc (or kdmdistrc file if it is present) and edit this line: WindowManager=kwin to read WindowManager= If the WindowManager=<something> line is not present then add it in the [X-*-Greeter] section of the file. Reboot and try logging in again. Let me know if this allows you to login--it is a workaround and the real cause of problem will need to be investigated if this works. Thanks! Tim

On 09/28/11 16:33, Peter Laws wrote: Let me also reiterate that I can log in, just not wm is running or at least, I only get one xterm. -- Peter Laws / N5UWY National Weather Center / Network Operations Center University of Oklahoma Information Technology plaws(a)ou.edu -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Feedback? Contact my director, Matt Younkins, younkinsm(a)ou.edu. Thank you!

OK. I've been up about 24 hours. Ubuntu Natty (amd64) on a Dell somethingorother. Install of Ubuntu was smoooth. Did the steps Tim outlined: On 09/12/11 12:11, Timothy Pearson wrote: Be sure to specifically choose a TDE session on the login screen. If you are untarring an old $HOME onto your new installation simply make a symlink from .kde (if you used Kubuntu previously) or .kde3 if you've used one of Tim's previous kits/distros and all your stuff comes back magically. Hurray! Note that there is still an issue with keys and mirrors, so you will likely still see: W: GPG error: http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net natty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 43F1DC4F2B8638D0 W: GPG error: http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net natty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 43F1DC4F2B8638D0 Thanks, Tim, for not forcing me (and the rest of us) to have to make a new desktop layout just because KDE4 is "better" in some programmer's mind. I've had mine for *years*, even under Solaris(!) and didn't see the need to change. Some reports on issues a little later ... :-) -- Peter Laws / N5UWY National Weather Center / Network Operations Center University of Oklahoma Information Technology plaws(a)ou.edu -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Feedback? Contact my director, Matt Younkins, younkinsm(a)ou.edu. Thank you!

On 09/30/11 14:13, Timothy Pearson wrote: OK, then that begs the question: should I be using something different? Or is is the NB stuff all that will work with Natty? And what is the correct forum for bug reports (kdesktop_lock locks OK, but then I have to ssh in from elsewhere to unlock it ... and by "unlock" I mean "kill" :-). Thanks, also, to the other TDE developers! -- Peter Laws / N5UWY National Weather Center / Network Operations Center University of Oklahoma Information Technology plaws(a)ou.edu -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Feedback? Contact my director, Matt Younkins, younkinsm(a)ou.edu. Thank you!