I just installed TDE on a new-to-me system running debian stable (buster).
All the initial system installation was done from a live CD, and it installed KDE. That installed version of KDE works as well as KDE ever works these days. In particular, though, the screen looks fine (1920x1200) and everything works as expected.
In the newly-installed TDE, though, the desktop flickers wildly and the desktop is simply unusable: input is lost during the flickers, so most keyboard/mouse input is not even seen by the desktop.
Where should I look to try to eliminate all the flickering so that I can get a usable TDE?
Doc
D. R. Evans wrote on 12/6/19 10:54 AM:
I just installed TDE on a new-to-me system running debian stable (buster).
All the initial system installation was done from a live CD, and it installed KDE. That installed version of KDE works as well as KDE ever works these days. In particular, though, the screen looks fine (1920x1200) and everything works as expected.
In the newly-installed TDE, though, the desktop flickers wildly and the desktop is simply unusable: input is lost during the flickers, so most keyboard/mouse input is not even seen by the desktop.
Where should I look to try to eliminate all the flickering so that I can get a usable TDE?
More info:
The background doesn't flicker at all. What is flickering are the panel and the default icons on the desktop, many times a second.
If I succeed in bringing up the TDE menu (which, if I click enough times, eventually does appear when I succeed in timing a click at a moment when the desktop is accepting input), then the flickering stops for as long as the menu is visible.
Really hoping for some helpful suggestions. I really, really, really, don't want to give up and use KDE5.
Doc
On Friday 06 December 2019 13:30:17 D. R. Evans wrote:
D. R. Evans wrote on 12/6/19 10:54 AM:
I just installed TDE on a new-to-me system running debian stable (buster).
All the initial system installation was done from a live CD, and it installed KDE. That installed version of KDE works as well as KDE ever works these days. In particular, though, the screen looks fine (1920x1200) and everything works as expected.
In the newly-installed TDE, though, the desktop flickers wildly and the desktop is simply unusable: input is lost during the flickers, so most keyboard/mouse input is not even seen by the desktop.
Where should I look to try to eliminate all the flickering so that I can get a usable TDE?
More info:
The background doesn't flicker at all. What is flickering are the panel and the default icons on the desktop, many times a second.
If I succeed in bringing up the TDE menu (which, if I click enough times, eventually does appear when I succeed in timing a click at a moment when the desktop is accepting input), then the flickering stops for as long as the menu is visible.
Really hoping for some helpful suggestions. I really, really, really, don't want to give up and use KDE5.
Doc
I found that I had problems upgrading to Buster / Ascii. However, my recommendation is maybe not a "fix", but a better workaround. I would suggest using a different desktop (such as MATE) for you other desktop choice.
When I install Devuan, I use the netinstall CD, and MATE is one of the choices. I find that it works better than KDE5 when running beside TDE. It took me months and months of tweaking to get KDE5 to behave itself enough to make my system work.
After I install the base system, I reboot into MATE, then add Open Office (instead of LibreOffice), and usually reboot again, then install TDE, and everything has been working almost with few problems for nearly a year; especially the past 6 months have seen only a few minor bugs. No such luck with KDE5.
Bill
On Friday 06 December 2019 03:37:59 pm William Morder via trinity-users wrote:
On Friday 06 December 2019 13:30:17 D. R. Evans wrote:
D. R. Evans wrote on 12/6/19 10:54 AM:
I just installed TDE on a new-to-me system running debian stable (buster).
All the initial system installation was done from a live CD, and it installed KDE. That installed version of KDE works as well as KDE ever works these days. In particular, though, the screen looks fine (1920x1200) and everything works as expected.
In the newly-installed TDE, though, the desktop flickers wildly and the desktop is simply unusable: input is lost during the flickers, so most keyboard/mouse input is not even seen by the desktop.
Where should I look to try to eliminate all the flickering so that I can get a usable TDE?
More info:
The background doesn't flicker at all. What is flickering are the panel and the default icons on the desktop, many times a second.
If I succeed in bringing up the TDE menu (which, if I click enough times, eventually does appear when I succeed in timing a click at a moment when the desktop is accepting input), then the flickering stops for as long as the menu is visible.
Really hoping for some helpful suggestions. I really, really, really, don't want to give up and use KDE5.
Doc
I found that I had problems upgrading to Buster / Ascii. However, my recommendation is maybe not a "fix", but a better workaround. I would suggest using a different desktop (such as MATE) for you other desktop choice.
When I install Devuan, I use the netinstall CD, and MATE is one of the choices. I find that it works better than KDE5 when running beside TDE. It took me months and months of tweaking to get KDE5 to behave itself enough to make my system work.
After I install the base system, I reboot into MATE, then add Open Office (instead of LibreOffice), and usually reboot again, then install TDE, and everything has been working almost with few problems for nearly a year; especially the past 6 months have seen only a few minor bugs. No such luck with KDE5.
I've found that not installing any desktop during initial installation is my preferred choice.
I generally make several bash scripts to do the TDE installation and other initial housekeeping and stick those on a USB stick and use those after first boot. Attaching them for convenience, modify as you desire.
Best, Michael PS: aud?, aup?, yes I'm that lazy... (actually I can't type...)
Michael wrote on 12/6/19 3:15 PM:
On Friday 06 December 2019 03:37:59 pm William Morder via trinity-users wrote:
On Friday 06 December 2019 13:30:17 D. R. Evans wrote:
D. R. Evans wrote on 12/6/19 10:54 AM:
I just installed TDE on a new-to-me system running debian stable (buster).
All the initial system installation was done from a live CD, and it installed KDE. That installed version of KDE works as well as KDE ever works these days. In particular, though, the screen looks fine (1920x1200) and everything works as expected.
In the newly-installed TDE, though, the desktop flickers wildly and the desktop is simply unusable: input is lost during the flickers, so most keyboard/mouse input is not even seen by the desktop.
Where should I look to try to eliminate all the flickering so that I can get a usable TDE?
More info:
The background doesn't flicker at all. What is flickering are the panel and the default icons on the desktop, many times a second.
If I succeed in bringing up the TDE menu (which, if I click enough times, eventually does appear when I succeed in timing a click at a moment when the desktop is accepting input), then the flickering stops for as long as the menu is visible.
Really hoping for some helpful suggestions. I really, really, really, don't want to give up and use KDE5.
Doc
I found that I had problems upgrading to Buster / Ascii. However, my recommendation is maybe not a "fix", but a better workaround. I would suggest using a different desktop (such as MATE) for you other desktop choice.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding. Are you suggesting, as you seem to be, that if I add MATE as a possible desktop, then that will somehow help TDE to work?
Doc
On Friday 06 December 2019 14:48:07 D. R. Evans wrote:
Michael wrote on 12/6/19 3:15 PM:
On Friday 06 December 2019 03:37:59 pm William Morder via trinity-users
wrote:
On Friday 06 December 2019 13:30:17 D. R. Evans wrote:
D. R. Evans wrote on 12/6/19 10:54 AM:
I just installed TDE on a new-to-me system running debian stable (buster).
All the initial system installation was done from a live CD, and it installed KDE. That installed version of KDE works as well as KDE ever works these days. In particular, though, the screen looks fine (1920x1200) and everything works as expected.
In the newly-installed TDE, though, the desktop flickers wildly and the desktop is simply unusable: input is lost during the flickers, so most keyboard/mouse input is not even seen by the desktop.
Where should I look to try to eliminate all the flickering so that I can get a usable TDE?
More info:
The background doesn't flicker at all. What is flickering are the panel and the default icons on the desktop, many times a second.
If I succeed in bringing up the TDE menu (which, if I click enough times, eventually does appear when I succeed in timing a click at a moment when the desktop is accepting input), then the flickering stops for as long as the menu is visible.
Really hoping for some helpful suggestions. I really, really, really, don't want to give up and use KDE5.
Doc
I found that I had problems upgrading to Buster / Ascii. However, my recommendation is maybe not a "fix", but a better workaround. I would suggest using a different desktop (such as MATE) for you other desktop choice.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding. Are you suggesting, as you seem to be, that if I add MATE as a possible desktop, then that will somehow help TDE to work?
Doc
Well, in preference to KDE5, yes. For me, anything besides TDE is bad. MATE is, for me, the least bad of bad choices.
If you can do as Michael suggested, and install no desktop at all (see his answer), then add TDE, that might be better still. Even better will be whenever we see TDE as a default choice of desktops that are offered in the mainstream Linux repositories (Ubuntu, Debian, Devuan, etc.), but it seems we shall have to wait for that glad moment.
For myself, it helps to have another desktop as my backup, even if I don't use it much. In the past it has proved useful for troubleshooting.
I am not saying that MATE will help TDE "work better"; only that MATE interferes less with my TDE desktop. When I install Debian with the KDE5 desktop, it was a constant headache; maybe there are conflicts between KDE5 and TDE. I don't know, and am only really interested in what works. For myself, since I must install TDE later, MATE has proved to be my best workaround solution.
Bill
On Friday 06 December 2019 14:15:34 Michael wrote:
On Friday 06 December 2019 03:37:59 pm William Morder via trinity-users
wrote:
On Friday 06 December 2019 13:30:17 D. R. Evans wrote:
D. R. Evans wrote on 12/6/19 10:54 AM:
I just installed TDE on a new-to-me system running debian stable (buster).
All the initial system installation was done from a live CD, and it installed KDE. That installed version of KDE works as well as KDE ever works these days. In particular, though, the screen looks fine (1920x1200) and everything works as expected.
In the newly-installed TDE, though, the desktop flickers wildly and the desktop is simply unusable: input is lost during the flickers, so most keyboard/mouse input is not even seen by the desktop.
Where should I look to try to eliminate all the flickering so that I can get a usable TDE?
More info:
The background doesn't flicker at all. What is flickering are the panel and the default icons on the desktop, many times a second.
If I succeed in bringing up the TDE menu (which, if I click enough times, eventually does appear when I succeed in timing a click at a moment when the desktop is accepting input), then the flickering stops for as long as the menu is visible.
Really hoping for some helpful suggestions. I really, really, really, don't want to give up and use KDE5.
Doc
I found that I had problems upgrading to Buster / Ascii. However, my recommendation is maybe not a "fix", but a better workaround. I would suggest using a different desktop (such as MATE) for you other desktop choice.
When I install Devuan, I use the netinstall CD, and MATE is one of the choices. I find that it works better than KDE5 when running beside TDE. It took me months and months of tweaking to get KDE5 to behave itself enough to make my system work.
After I install the base system, I reboot into MATE, then add Open Office (instead of LibreOffice), and usually reboot again, then install TDE, and everything has been working almost with few problems for nearly a year; especially the past 6 months have seen only a few minor bugs. No such luck with KDE5.
I've found that not installing any desktop during initial installation is my preferred choice.
I generally make several bash scripts to do the TDE installation and other initial housekeeping and stick those on a USB stick and use those after first boot. Attaching them for convenience, modify as you desire.
Best, Michael PS: aud?, aup?, yes I'm that lazy... (actually I can't type...)
We'll be testing these scripts of yours whenever next I reinstall my system. If it eliminates the need to install the MATE desktop, then you definitely will be owed props from everybody.
Bill
William Morder via trinity-users composed on 2019-12-06 15:40 (UTC-0800):
We'll be testing these scripts of yours whenever next I reinstall my system. If it eliminates the need to install the MATE desktop, then you definitely will be owed props from everybody.
From those who don't know how to do a minimal base install sure, but not from everybody. There's no need to install Mate or KDE or any other DE before adding TDE. Minimal installation with no X or DE, then adding, TDE has been normal procedure here since I learned of TDE.
On Friday 06 December 2019 16:28:27 Felix Miata wrote:
William Morder via trinity-users composed on 2019-12-06 15:40 (UTC-0800):
We'll be testing these scripts of yours whenever next I reinstall my system. If it eliminates the need to install the MATE desktop, then you definitely will be owed props from everybody.
From those who don't know how to do a minimal base install sure, but not from everybody. There's no need to install Mate or KDE or any other DE before adding TDE. Minimal installation with no X or DE, then adding, TDE has been normal procedure here since I learned of TDE.
Okay, okay. Maybe not props from "everybody"; but he has shared his knowledge with us, showed us another possible way to do things.
For myself, doing a minimal installation would be okay, if I had another system on which to experiment. But all in good time.
Bill
D. R. Evans wrote on 12/6/19 2:30 PM:
D. R. Evans wrote on 12/6/19 10:54 AM:
I just installed TDE on a new-to-me system running debian stable (buster).
All the initial system installation was done from a live CD, and it installed KDE. That installed version of KDE works as well as KDE ever works these days. In particular, though, the screen looks fine (1920x1200) and everything works as expected.
In the newly-installed TDE, though, the desktop flickers wildly and the desktop is simply unusable: input is lost during the flickers, so most keyboard/mouse input is not even seen by the desktop.
Where should I look to try to eliminate all the flickering so that I can get a usable TDE?
More info:
The background doesn't flicker at all. What is flickering are the panel and the default icons on the desktop, many times a second.
If I succeed in bringing up the TDE menu (which, if I click enough times, eventually does appear when I succeed in timing a click at a moment when the desktop is accepting input), then the flickering stops for as long as the menu is visible.
More info:
After a few minutes of I trying to use this (basically unsable :-( ) TDE, it suddenly popped up a dialog that said that the screen was locked and requested that I enter my password. When I did that, I was returned to the session, but the flickering had stopped.
So that suggests the question: what causes the screen to lock and the popup requesting unlocking to appear? Somehow that seems to be related to the flickering problem.
Doc
PS I have no screensaver set.
Anno domini 2019 Fri, 6 Dec 16:30:14 -0700 D. R. Evans scripsit:
D. R. Evans wrote on 12/6/19 2:30 PM:
D. R. Evans wrote on 12/6/19 10:54 AM:
I just installed TDE on a new-to-me system running debian stable (buster).
All the initial system installation was done from a live CD, and it installed KDE. That installed version of KDE works as well as KDE ever works these days. In particular, though, the screen looks fine (1920x1200) and everything works as expected.
In the newly-installed TDE, though, the desktop flickers wildly and the desktop is simply unusable: input is lost during the flickers, so most keyboard/mouse input is not even seen by the desktop.
Where should I look to try to eliminate all the flickering so that I can get a usable TDE?
More info:
The background doesn't flicker at all. What is flickering are the panel and the default icons on the desktop, many times a second.
If I succeed in bringing up the TDE menu (which, if I click enough times, eventually does appear when I succeed in timing a click at a moment when the desktop is accepting input), then the flickering stops for as long as the menu is visible.
More info:
After a few minutes of I trying to use this (basically unsable :-( ) TDE, it suddenly popped up a dialog that said that the screen was locked and requested that I enter my password. When I did that, I was returned to the session, but the flickering had stopped.
So that suggests the question: what causes the screen to lock and the popup requesting unlocking to appear? Somehow that seems to be related to the flickering problem.
Doc
PS I have no screensaver set.
can you run "top"or "htop" on a console (e.g.: <ctrl>+<alt>+<f1>)?
Nik
Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote on 12/6/19 4:34 PM:
Anno domini 2019 Fri, 6 Dec 16:30:14 -0700 D. R. Evans scripsit:
D. R. Evans wrote on 12/6/19 2:30 PM:
D. R. Evans wrote on 12/6/19 10:54 AM:
I just installed TDE on a new-to-me system running debian stable (buster).
All the initial system installation was done from a live CD, and it installed KDE. That installed version of KDE works as well as KDE ever works these days. In particular, though, the screen looks fine (1920x1200) and everything works as expected.
In the newly-installed TDE, though, the desktop flickers wildly and the desktop is simply unusable: input is lost during the flickers, so most keyboard/mouse input is not even seen by the desktop.
Where should I look to try to eliminate all the flickering so that I can get a usable TDE?
More info:
The background doesn't flicker at all. What is flickering are the panel and the default icons on the desktop, many times a second.
If I succeed in bringing up the TDE menu (which, if I click enough times, eventually does appear when I succeed in timing a click at a moment when the desktop is accepting input), then the flickering stops for as long as the menu is visible.
More info:
After a few minutes of I trying to use this (basically unsable :-( ) TDE, it suddenly popped up a dialog that said that the screen was locked and requested that I enter my password. When I did that, I was returned to the session, but the flickering had stopped.
So that suggests the question: what causes the screen to lock and the popup requesting unlocking to appear? Somehow that seems to be related to the flickering problem.
Doc
PS I have no screensaver set.
can you run "top"or "htop" on a console (e.g.: <ctrl>+<alt>+<f1>)?
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top -b -n 1 produces (while the flickering is occurring):
top - 19:24:38 up 4 min, 3 users, load average: 1.40, 1.24, 0.56 Tasks: 592 total, 1 running, 590 sleeping, 0 stopped, 1 zombie %Cpu(s): 9.9 us, 3.8 sy, 0.0 ni, 85.5 id, 0.0 wa, 0.0 hi, 0.8 si, 0.0 st MiB Mem : 31937.5 total, 29274.7 free, 2303.3 used, 359.5 buff/cache MiB Swap: 0.0 total, 0.0 free, 0.0 used. 29109.6 avail Mem
PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 2816 n7dr 20 0 157640 24428 18680 S 106.7 0.1 2:13.59 kdesktop 10051 n7dr 20 0 11548 2916 1940 R 6.7 0.0 0:00.01 top 1 root 20 0 169796 7592 5040 S 0.0 0.0 0:01.95 systemd 2 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.10 kthreadd 3 root 0 -20 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 rcu_gp 4 root 0 -20 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 rcu_par_gp 5 root 20 0 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kworker/0:0-memcg_kmem_cache 6 root 0 -20 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kworker/0:0H 7 root 20 0 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kworker/u16:0-events_unbound 8 root 0 -20 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 mm_percpu_wq 9 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.02 ksoftirqd/0 10 root 20 0 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.12 rcu_sched 11 root 20 0 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 rcu_bh 12 root rt 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.02 migration/0 13 root 20 0 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.06 kworker/0:1-events 14 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.01 cpuhp/0 15 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 cpuhp/1 16 root rt 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.01 migration/1 17 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.01 ksoftirqd/1 18 root 20 0 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kworker/1:0-pm 19 root 0 -20 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kworker/1:0H-kblockd 20 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 cpuhp/2 21 root rt 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.02 migration/2 22 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.01 ksoftirqd/2 23 root 20 0 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.25 kworker/2:0-mm_percpu_wq 24 root 0 -20 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kworker/2:0H-kblockd 25 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 cpuhp/3 26 root rt 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.02 migration/3 27 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.01 ksoftirqd/3 28 root 20 0 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kworker/3:0-events 29 root 0 -20 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kworker/3:0H-kblockd 30 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 cpuhp/4 31 root rt 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.01 migration/4 32 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.02 ksoftirqd/4 33 root 20 0 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kworker/4:0-mm_percpu_wq 34 root 0 -20 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kworker/4:0H-kblockd 35 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 cpuhp/5 36 root rt 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 migration/5 37 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.02 ksoftirqd/5 38 root 20 0 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kworker/5:0-pm 39 root 0 -20 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kworker/5:0H-kblockd 40 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 cpuhp/6 41 root rt 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.01 migration/6 42 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 ksoftirqd/6 43 root 20 0 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kworker/6:0-rcu_gp 44 root 0 -20 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kworker/6:0H-kblockd 45 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 cpuhp/7 46 root rt 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 migration/7 47 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.02 ksoftirqd/7 48 root 20 0 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kworker/7:0-events 49 root 0 -20 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kworker/7:0H-kblockd 50 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kdevtmpfs 51 root 0 -20 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 netns 52 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.01 kauditd 53 root 20 0 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kworker/1:1-pm 54 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 khungtaskd 55 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 oom_reaper 56 root 0 -20 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 writeback 57 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kcompactd0 58 root 25 5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 ksmd 59 root 39 19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.01 khugepaged 60 root 0 -20 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 crypto 61 root 0 -20 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kintegrityd 62 root 0 -20 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kblockd 63 root 0 -20 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 edac-poller 64 root 0 -20 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 devfreq_wq 65 root rt 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 watchdogd 66 root 20 0 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.04 kworker/3:1-mm_percpu_wq 67 root 20 0 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.02 kworker/7:1-mm_percpu_wq 68 root 20 0 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.03 kworker/2:1-events 69 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kswapd0 87 root 0 -20 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kthrotld 88 root 0 -20 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 ipv6_addrconf 89 root 20 0 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kworker/u16:1-events_unbound 91 root 20 0 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.08 kworker/5:1-mm_percpu_wq 99 root 0 -20 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kstrp 102 root 20 0 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kworker/1:2-cgroup_destroy 103 root 20 0 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.04 kworker/1:3-mm_percpu_wq 104 root 20 0 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kworker/1:4 105 root 20 0 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.25 kworker/4:1-events 106 root 20 0 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kworker/6:1-mm_percpu_wq 154 root 0 -20 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 acpi_thermal_pm 190 root 0 -20 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 ata_sff 200 root 20 0 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kworker/2:2-events 215 root 20 0 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kworker/2:3-cgroup_destroy 226 root 0 -20 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 ttm_swap 233 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 scsi_eh_0 234 root 0 -20 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 scsi_tmf_0 235 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 scsi_eh_1 236 root 0 -20 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 scsi_tmf_1 237 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 scsi_eh_2 238 root 0 -20 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 scsi_tmf_2 239 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 scsi_eh_3 240 root 0 -20 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 scsi_tmf_3 241 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 scsi_eh_4 242 root 0 -20 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 scsi_tmf_4 243 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 scsi_eh_5 244 root 0 -20 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 scsi_tmf_5 245 root 20 0 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kworker/u16:2-rpciod 246 root 20 0 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kworker/u16:3-events_unbound 247 root 20 0 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.69 kworker/u16:4-i915 248 root 20 0 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.02 kworker/u16:5-rpciod 249 root 20 0 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kworker/u16:6-i915 252 root 0 -20 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kworker/u17:0-xprtiod 253 root -2 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 i915/signal:0 254 root -2 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 i915/signal:1 255 root -2 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 i915/signal:2 256 root -2 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 i915/signal:6 257 root 20 0 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kworker/u16:7 258 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 cec-DP-1 259 root 0 -20 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kworker/6:1H-kblockd 260 root 0 -20 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kworker/5:1H-kblockd 263 root 20 0 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kworker/7:2-cgroup_destroy 270 root 20 0 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kworker/3:2-mm_percpu_wq 272 root 0 -20 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kworker/2:1H-kblockd 281 root 20 0 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kworker/4:2-events 299 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.02 spl_system_task 300 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 spl_delay_taskq 301 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.05 spl_dynamic_tas 302 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.07 spl_kmem_cache 303 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 zvol 304 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 arc_prune 305 root 39 19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 zthr_procedure 306 root 39 19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 zthr_procedure 307 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.02 dbu_evict 308 root 39 19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 dbuf_evict 309 root 39 19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_vdev_file 310 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 l2arc_feed 323 root 0 -20 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kworker/4:1H-kblockd 324 root 0 -20 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kworker/3:1H-kblockd 393 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.03 z_null_iss 394 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.04 z_null_int 395 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_rd_iss 396 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.13 z_rd_int 397 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.15 z_rd_int 398 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.13 z_rd_int 399 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.14 z_rd_int 400 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.17 z_rd_int 401 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.14 z_rd_int 402 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.15 z_rd_int 403 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.15 z_rd_int 404 root 1 -19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.05 z_wr_iss 405 root 1 -19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.07 z_wr_iss 406 root 1 -19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.04 z_wr_iss 407 root 1 -19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.04 z_wr_iss 408 root 1 -19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.05 z_wr_iss 409 root 1 -19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.06 z_wr_iss 410 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_wr_iss_h 411 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.04 z_wr_int 412 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.05 z_wr_int 413 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.04 z_wr_int 414 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.05 z_wr_int 415 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.04 z_wr_int 416 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.04 z_wr_int 417 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.04 z_wr_int 418 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.04 z_wr_int 419 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_wr_int_h 420 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_fr_iss 421 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_fr_iss 422 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_fr_iss 423 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_fr_iss 424 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_fr_iss 425 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_fr_iss 426 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_fr_iss 427 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_fr_iss 428 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_fr_int 429 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_cl_iss 430 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_cl_int 431 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_ioctl_iss 432 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_ioctl_int 433 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_trim_iss 434 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_trim_int 435 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.04 z_zvol 436 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_prefetch 437 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_upgrade 441 root 39 19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.01 dp_sync_taskq 442 root 39 19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.01 dp_sync_taskq 443 root 39 19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.01 dp_sync_taskq 444 root 39 19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 dp_sync_taskq 445 root 39 19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.01 dp_sync_taskq 446 root 39 19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 dp_sync_taskq 447 root 39 19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 dp_zil_clean_ta 448 root 39 19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 dp_zil_clean_ta 449 root 39 19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 dp_zil_clean_ta 450 root 39 19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 dp_zil_clean_ta 451 root 39 19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 dp_zil_clean_ta 452 root 39 19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 dp_zil_clean_ta 453 root 39 19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 dp_zil_clean_ta 454 root 39 19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 dp_zil_clean_ta 455 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_iput 456 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_unlinked_drai 460 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 metaslab_group_ 614 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 txg_quiesce 615 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.06 txg_sync 616 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 mmp 657 root 0 -20 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kworker/1:1H-kblockd 658 root 39 19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 zthr_procedure 659 root 39 19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 zthr_procedure 761 root 0 -20 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kworker/7:1H-kblockd 907 root 20 0 29628 7288 6096 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.36 systemd-journal 923 root 0 -20 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 rpciod 924 root 0 -20 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 xprtiod 925 root 20 0 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kworker/5:2-mm_percpu_wq 934 root 20 0 23696 4484 2472 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.34 systemd-udevd 940 root 0 -20 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kworker/0:1H-kblockd 1009 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.01 z_null_iss 1010 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.04 z_null_int 1011 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_rd_iss 1012 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_rd_int 1013 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_rd_int 1014 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_rd_int 1015 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_rd_int 1016 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_rd_int 1017 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_rd_int 1018 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_rd_int 1019 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_rd_int 1020 root 1 -19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_wr_iss 1021 root 1 -19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_wr_iss 1022 root 1 -19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_wr_iss 1023 root 1 -19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_wr_iss 1024 root 1 -19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_wr_iss 1025 root 1 -19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_wr_iss 1026 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_wr_iss_h 1027 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_wr_int 1028 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_wr_int 1029 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_wr_int 1030 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_wr_int 1031 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_wr_int 1032 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_wr_int 1033 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_wr_int 1034 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_wr_int 1035 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_wr_int_h 1036 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_fr_iss 1037 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_fr_iss 1038 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_fr_iss 1039 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_fr_iss 1040 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_fr_iss 1041 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_fr_iss 1042 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_fr_iss 1043 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_fr_iss 1044 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_fr_int 1045 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_cl_iss 1046 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_cl_int 1047 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_ioctl_iss 1048 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_ioctl_int 1049 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_trim_iss 1050 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_trim_int 1051 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_zvol 1052 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_prefetch 1053 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_upgrade 1057 root 39 19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 dp_sync_taskq 1058 root 39 19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 dp_sync_taskq 1059 root 39 19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 dp_sync_taskq 1060 root 39 19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 dp_sync_taskq 1061 root 39 19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 dp_sync_taskq 1062 root 39 19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 dp_sync_taskq 1063 root 39 19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 dp_zil_clean_ta 1064 root 39 19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 dp_zil_clean_ta 1065 root 39 19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 dp_zil_clean_ta 1066 root 39 19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 dp_zil_clean_ta 1067 root 39 19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 dp_zil_clean_ta 1068 root 39 19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 dp_zil_clean_ta 1069 root 39 19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 dp_zil_clean_ta 1070 root 39 19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 dp_zil_clean_ta 1071 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_iput 1072 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_unlinked_drai 1076 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 metaslab_group_ 1144 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 txg_quiesce 1145 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.01 txg_sync 1146 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 mmp 1234 root 39 19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 zthr_procedure 1237 root 39 19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 zthr_procedure 1394 root 20 0 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kworker/0:2-cgroup_destroy 1473 root 20 0 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kworker/7:3-cgroup_destroy 1474 root -51 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 irq/141-mei_me 1484 root 20 0 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.05 kworker/6:2-mm_percpu_wq 1532 root 20 0 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kworker/5:3-events 1621 systemd+ 20 0 95144 4756 3892 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.08 systemd-timesyn 1622 _rpc 20 0 6824 2312 1880 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.01 rpcbind 1639 root 20 0 8084 4736 1100 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.23 haveged 1650 root 20 0 238880 4772 3744 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.06 accounts-daemon 1653 root 20 0 398808 9144 6524 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.10 udisksd 1654 root 20 0 166736 3436 2676 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.23 zed 1656 avahi 20 0 8004 2336 2020 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.03 avahi-daemon 1657 message+ 20 0 9332 3256 2272 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.22 dbus-daemon 1658 root 20 0 19768 3552 2920 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 wpa_supplicant 1660 root 20 0 19508 5520 4520 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.13 systemd-logind 1661 root 20 0 29196 5008 3812 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.01 cupsd 1666 root 39 19 31452 3968 3040 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 alsactl 1668 root 20 0 332556 10016 7856 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.12 NetworkManager 1669 root 20 0 318320 8732 5224 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.04 ModemManager 1670 root 20 0 225824 5272 2036 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.04 rsyslogd 1713 avahi 20 0 7872 304 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 avahi-daemon 1720 root 20 0 9488 3676 2404 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 dhclient 1749 root 0 -20 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 iprt-VBoxWQueue 1750 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 iprt-VBoxTscThr 1805 lp 20 0 19112 3948 3144 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 dbus 1806 root 20 0 185212 7384 5968 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.05 cups-browsed 1894 root 20 0 237884 6476 4060 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.04 polkitd 1967 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_wr_int 1968 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 z_wr_int 2012 root 20 0 15852 4272 3432 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 sshd 2103 root 20 0 7440 2076 1820 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 inetd 2108 root 0 -20 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 nfsiod 2114 root 0 -20 0 0 0 I 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kworker/u17:1 2115 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 NFSv4 callback 2120 root 20 0 8504 1736 1536 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 cron 2128 root 20 0 5612 1204 1096 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.01 agetty 2129 root 20 0 137868 9068 7912 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.06 sddm 2131 root 20 0 5564 1720 1532 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 lisa 2135 root 20 0 1019476 101384 32700 S 0.0 0.3 0:31.92 Xorg 2384 root 20 0 59496 9800 8664 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.10 sddm-helper 2388 n7dr 20 0 21412 7460 5832 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.02 systemd 2389 n7dr 20 0 23136 2624 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 (sd-pam) 2400 n7dr 20 0 266724 21500 16592 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.26 kwalletd5 2401 n7dr 20 0 2388 1224 1100 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.04 starttde 2414 n7dr 20 0 8688 2836 2408 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.02 dbus-daemon 2438 n7dr 20 0 5852 476 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 ssh-agent 2560 root 20 0 5020 976 800 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.01 tde_dbus_hardwa 2566 n7dr 20 0 71108 9372 5924 S 0.0 0.0 0:03.22 dcopserver 2571 n7dr 20 0 83140 24160 16996 S 0.0 0.1 0:01.59 kded 2710 root 20 0 2144 68 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 start_tdeinit 2711 n7dr 20 0 70668 6108 2940 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.02 tdeinit 2801 n7dr 20 0 75804 16884 13636 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.59 tdelauncher 2807 n7dr 20 0 63720 16504 14296 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.02 tdeinit_phase1 2808 n7dr 20 0 2388 568 496 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 sh 2809 n7dr 20 0 2280 536 476 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kwrapper 2811 n7dr 20 0 78568 20840 13980 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.86 ksmserver 2812 n7dr 20 0 82308 20724 15088 S 0.0 0.1 0:01.61 twin 2813 n7dr 20 0 82936 21308 15020 S 0.0 0.1 0:01.56 twin 2817 n7dr 20 0 157600 24272 18656 S 0.0 0.1 0:18.82 kdesktop 2829 n7dr 20 0 90824 26532 18252 S 0.0 0.1 0:01.68 kicker 2830 n7dr 20 0 90808 26532 18288 S 0.0 0.1 0:02.87 kicker 2832 n7dr 20 0 70840 10676 7480 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 tdeio_file 2837 n7dr 20 0 70840 10720 7524 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 tdeio_file 2839 n7dr 20 0 70840 10720 7524 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 tdeio_file 2848 n7dr 20 0 68952 20436 16696 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.35 kblankscrn.kss 2854 n7dr 20 0 77996 16256 12044 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.30 khotkeys 2855 n7dr 20 0 77708 16044 12044 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.34 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Doc
On Fri, 6 Dec 2019 19:27:14 -0700 "D. R. Evans" doc.evans@gmail.com wrote:
Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote on 12/6/19 4:34 PM:
Anno domini 2019 Fri, 6 Dec 16:30:14 -0700 D. R. Evans scripsit:
D. R. Evans wrote on 12/6/19 2:30 PM:
D. R. Evans wrote on 12/6/19 10:54 AM:
I just installed TDE on a new-to-me system running debian stable (buster).
All the initial system installation was done from a live CD, and it installed KDE. That installed version of KDE works as well as KDE ever works these days. In particular, though, the screen looks fine (1920x1200) and everything works as expected.
In the newly-installed TDE, though, the desktop flickers wildly and the desktop is simply unusable: input is lost during the flickers, so most keyboard/mouse input is not even seen by the desktop.
Where should I look to try to eliminate all the flickering so that I can get a usable TDE?
More info:
The background doesn't flicker at all. What is flickering are the panel and the default icons on the desktop, many times a second.
If I succeed in bringing up the TDE menu (which, if I click enough times, eventually does appear when I succeed in timing a click at a moment when the desktop is accepting input), then the flickering stops for as long as the menu is visible.
More info:
After a few minutes of I trying to use this (basically unsable :-( ) TDE, it suddenly popped up a dialog that said that the screen was locked and requested that I enter my password. When I did that, I was returned to the session, but the flickering had stopped.
So that suggests the question: what causes the screen to lock and the popup requesting unlocking to appear? Somehow that seems to be related to the flickering problem.
Doc
PS I have no screensaver set.
can you run "top"or "htop" on a console (e.g.: <ctrl>+<alt>+<f1>)?
top -b -n 1 produces (while the flickering is occurring):
[...]
2808 n7dr 20 0 2388 568 496 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 sh 2809 n7dr 20 0 2280 536 476 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kwrapper 2811 n7dr 20 0 78568 20840 13980 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.86 ksmserver 2812 n7dr 20 0 82308 20724 15088 S 0.0 0.1 0:01.61 twin 2813 n7dr 20 0 82936 21308 15020 S 0.0 0.1 0:01.56 twin 2817 n7dr 20 0 157600 24272 18656 S 0.0 0.1 0:18.82 kdesktop 2829 n7dr 20 0 90824 26532 18252 S 0.0 0.1 0:01.68 kicker 2830 n7dr 20 0 90808 26532 18288 S 0.0 0.1 0:02.87 kicker 2832 n7dr 20 0 70840 10676 7480 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 tdeio_file 2837 n7dr 20 0 70840 10720 7524 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 tdeio_file 2839 n7dr 20 0 70840 10720 7524 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 tdeio_file
[...]
The doubled-up instances of kicker and twin jump out at me as a possible conflict.
E. Liddell
E. Liddell wrote on 12/7/19 3:48 PM:
On Fri, 6 Dec 2019 19:27:14 -0700 "D. R. Evans" doc.evans@gmail.com wrote:
Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote on 12/6/19 4:34 PM:
Anno domini 2019 Fri, 6 Dec 16:30:14 -0700 D. R. Evans scripsit:
D. R. Evans wrote on 12/6/19 2:30 PM:
D. R. Evans wrote on 12/6/19 10:54 AM:
I just installed TDE on a new-to-me system running debian stable (buster).
All the initial system installation was done from a live CD, and it installed KDE. That installed version of KDE works as well as KDE ever works these days. In particular, though, the screen looks fine (1920x1200) and everything works as expected.
In the newly-installed TDE, though, the desktop flickers wildly and the desktop is simply unusable: input is lost during the flickers, so most keyboard/mouse input is not even seen by the desktop.
Where should I look to try to eliminate all the flickering so that I can get a usable TDE?
More info:
The background doesn't flicker at all. What is flickering are the panel and the default icons on the desktop, many times a second.
If I succeed in bringing up the TDE menu (which, if I click enough times, eventually does appear when I succeed in timing a click at a moment when the desktop is accepting input), then the flickering stops for as long as the menu is visible.
More info:
After a few minutes of I trying to use this (basically unsable :-( ) TDE, it suddenly popped up a dialog that said that the screen was locked and requested that I enter my password. When I did that, I was returned to the session, but the flickering had stopped.
So that suggests the question: what causes the screen to lock and the popup requesting unlocking to appear? Somehow that seems to be related to the flickering problem.
Doc
PS I have no screensaver set.
can you run "top"or "htop" on a console (e.g.: <ctrl>+<alt>+<f1>)?
top -b -n 1 produces (while the flickering is occurring):
[...]
2808 n7dr 20 0 2388 568 496 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 sh 2809 n7dr 20 0 2280 536 476 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kwrapper 2811 n7dr 20 0 78568 20840 13980 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.86 ksmserver 2812 n7dr 20 0 82308 20724 15088 S 0.0 0.1 0:01.61 twin 2813 n7dr 20 0 82936 21308 15020 S 0.0 0.1 0:01.56 twin 2817 n7dr 20 0 157600 24272 18656 S 0.0 0.1 0:18.82 kdesktop 2829 n7dr 20 0 90824 26532 18252 S 0.0 0.1 0:01.68 kicker 2830 n7dr 20 0 90808 26532 18288 S 0.0 0.1 0:02.87 kicker 2832 n7dr 20 0 70840 10676 7480 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 tdeio_file 2837 n7dr 20 0 70840 10720 7524 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 tdeio_file 2839 n7dr 20 0 70840 10720 7524 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 tdeio_file
[...]
The doubled-up instances of kicker and twin jump out at me as a possible conflict.
OK; so do you have any idea what spawns the twin and kicker processes? I'm floundering here (as is so often the case). Since this happens immediately I log in, I'm not starting anything manually.
Doc
Anno domini 2019 Sat, 7 Dec 19:53:11 -0700 D. R. Evans scripsit:
E. Liddell wrote on 12/7/19 3:48 PM:
On Fri, 6 Dec 2019 19:27:14 -0700 "D. R. Evans" doc.evans@gmail.com wrote:
Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote on 12/6/19 4:34 PM:
Anno domini 2019 Fri, 6 Dec 16:30:14 -0700 D. R. Evans scripsit:
D. R. Evans wrote on 12/6/19 2:30 PM:
D. R. Evans wrote on 12/6/19 10:54 AM: > I just installed TDE on a new-to-me system running debian stable (buster). > > All the initial system installation was done from a live CD, and it installed > KDE. That installed version of KDE works as well as KDE ever works these days. > In particular, though, the screen looks fine (1920x1200) and everything works > as expected. > > In the newly-installed TDE, though, the desktop flickers wildly and the > desktop is simply unusable: input is lost during the flickers, so most > keyboard/mouse input is not even seen by the desktop. > > Where should I look to try to eliminate all the flickering so that I can get a > usable TDE? >
More info:
The background doesn't flicker at all. What is flickering are the panel and the default icons on the desktop, many times a second.
If I succeed in bringing up the TDE menu (which, if I click enough times, eventually does appear when I succeed in timing a click at a moment when the desktop is accepting input), then the flickering stops for as long as the menu is visible.
More info:
After a few minutes of I trying to use this (basically unsable :-( ) TDE, it suddenly popped up a dialog that said that the screen was locked and requested that I enter my password. When I did that, I was returned to the session, but the flickering had stopped.
So that suggests the question: what causes the screen to lock and the popup requesting unlocking to appear? Somehow that seems to be related to the flickering problem.
Doc
PS I have no screensaver set.
can you run "top"or "htop" on a console (e.g.: <ctrl>+<alt>+<f1>)?
top -b -n 1 produces (while the flickering is occurring):
[...]
2808 n7dr 20 0 2388 568 496 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 sh 2809 n7dr 20 0 2280 536 476 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kwrapper 2811 n7dr 20 0 78568 20840 13980 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.86 ksmserver 2812 n7dr 20 0 82308 20724 15088 S 0.0 0.1 0:01.61 twin 2813 n7dr 20 0 82936 21308 15020 S 0.0 0.1 0:01.56 twin 2817 n7dr 20 0 157600 24272 18656 S 0.0 0.1 0:18.82 kdesktop 2829 n7dr 20 0 90824 26532 18252 S 0.0 0.1 0:01.68 kicker 2830 n7dr 20 0 90808 26532 18288 S 0.0 0.1 0:02.87 kicker 2832 n7dr 20 0 70840 10676 7480 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 tdeio_file 2837 n7dr 20 0 70840 10720 7524 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 tdeio_file 2839 n7dr 20 0 70840 10720 7524 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 tdeio_file
[...]
The doubled-up instances of kicker and twin jump out at me as a possible conflict.
OK; so do you have any idea what spawns the twin and kicker processes? I'm floundering here (as is so often the case). Since this happens immediately I log in, I'm not starting anything manually.
Most likely systemd.
Doc
E. Liddell wrote on 12/7/19 3:48 PM:
On Fri, 6 Dec 2019 19:27:14 -0700 "D. R. Evans" doc.evans@gmail.com wrote:
Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote on 12/6/19 4:34 PM:
Anno domini 2019 Fri, 6 Dec 16:30:14 -0700 D. R. Evans scripsit:
D. R. Evans wrote on 12/6/19 2:30 PM:
D. R. Evans wrote on 12/6/19 10:54 AM:
I just installed TDE on a new-to-me system running debian stable (buster).
All the initial system installation was done from a live CD, and it installed KDE. That installed version of KDE works as well as KDE ever works these days. In particular, though, the screen looks fine (1920x1200) and everything works as expected.
In the newly-installed TDE, though, the desktop flickers wildly and the desktop is simply unusable: input is lost during the flickers, so most keyboard/mouse input is not even seen by the desktop.
Where should I look to try to eliminate all the flickering so that I can get a usable TDE?
More info:
The background doesn't flicker at all. What is flickering are the panel and the default icons on the desktop, many times a second.
If I succeed in bringing up the TDE menu (which, if I click enough times, eventually does appear when I succeed in timing a click at a moment when the desktop is accepting input), then the flickering stops for as long as the menu is visible.
More info:
After a few minutes of I trying to use this (basically unsable :-( ) TDE, it suddenly popped up a dialog that said that the screen was locked and requested that I enter my password. When I did that, I was returned to the session, but the flickering had stopped.
So that suggests the question: what causes the screen to lock and the popup requesting unlocking to appear? Somehow that seems to be related to the flickering problem.
Doc
PS I have no screensaver set.
can you run "top"or "htop" on a console (e.g.: <ctrl>+<alt>+<f1>)?
top -b -n 1 produces (while the flickering is occurring):
[...]
2808 n7dr 20 0 2388 568 496 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 sh 2809 n7dr 20 0 2280 536 476 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kwrapper 2811 n7dr 20 0 78568 20840 13980 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.86 ksmserver 2812 n7dr 20 0 82308 20724 15088 S 0.0 0.1 0:01.61 twin 2813 n7dr 20 0 82936 21308 15020 S 0.0 0.1 0:01.56 twin 2817 n7dr 20 0 157600 24272 18656 S 0.0 0.1 0:18.82 kdesktop 2829 n7dr 20 0 90824 26532 18252 S 0.0 0.1 0:01.68 kicker 2830 n7dr 20 0 90808 26532 18288 S 0.0 0.1 0:02.87 kicker 2832 n7dr 20 0 70840 10676 7480 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 tdeio_file 2837 n7dr 20 0 70840 10720 7524 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 tdeio_file 2839 n7dr 20 0 70840 10720 7524 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 tdeio_file
[...]
The doubled-up instances of kicker and twin jump out at me as a possible conflict.
I can confirm that on the machine in question, twin is started twice on login, and it is started only once on the machine on which I am typing this:
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[before login, with the sddm screen showing]: [ZB:~] top -b -n 1 | grep twin
[after login]: [ZB:~] top -b -n 1 | grep twin 5405 n7dr 20 0 82156 20316 14816 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.08 twin 5406 n7dr 20 0 82928 21292 15020 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.11 twin [ZB:~] exit logout Connection to zbrew closed.
[on this machine]: [HN:radio] top -b -n 1 | grep twin 28092 n7dr 20 0 198264 14364 6132 S 0.0 0.2 2:23.39 twin [HN:radio]
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So this certainly looks like there's a problem with twin being started more than once on the zbrew machine when I log in. The same goes for kicker.
Doc
On Fri, 6 Dec 2019 16:30:14 -0700 "D. R. Evans" doc.evans@gmail.com wrote:
More info:
The background doesn't flicker at all. What is flickering are the panel and the default icons on the desktop, many times a second.
If I succeed in bringing up the TDE menu (which, if I click enough times, eventually does appear when I succeed in timing a click at a moment when the desktop is accepting input), then the flickering stops for as long as the menu is visible.
More info:
After a few minutes of I trying to use this (basically unsable :-( ) TDE, it suddenly popped up a dialog that said that the screen was locked and requested that I enter my password. When I did that, I was returned to the session, but the flickering had stopped.
So that suggests the question: what causes the screen to lock and the popup requesting unlocking to appear? Somehow that seems to be related to the flickering problem.
Doc
PS I have no screensaver set.
By any chance, do you have multiple monitors setup via Xorg.conf (not randr)? Anyway, rename /opt/trinity/bin/kdesktop_lock to something (like add .NO to it), restart pc and see if it helped.
Nick Koretsky wrote on 12/11/19 6:15 AM:
On Fri, 6 Dec 2019 16:30:14 -0700 "D. R. Evans" doc.evans@gmail.com wrote:
More info:
The background doesn't flicker at all. What is flickering are the panel and the default icons on the desktop, many times a second.
If I succeed in bringing up the TDE menu (which, if I click enough times, eventually does appear when I succeed in timing a click at a moment when the desktop is accepting input), then the flickering stops for as long as the menu is visible.
More info:
After a few minutes of I trying to use this (basically unsable :-( ) TDE, it suddenly popped up a dialog that said that the screen was locked and requested that I enter my password. When I did that, I was returned to the session, but the flickering had stopped.
So that suggests the question: what causes the screen to lock and the popup requesting unlocking to appear? Somehow that seems to be related to the flickering problem.
Doc
PS I have no screensaver set.
By any chance, do you have multiple monitors setup via Xorg.conf (not randr)? Anyway, rename /opt/trinity/bin/kdesktop_lock to something (like add .NO to it), restart pc and see if it helped.
I have only one monitor, but the motherboard appears to support two graphics ports. And even though only one port has anything attached to it, I realised that I can change a jumper on the motherboard to disable the one that is unused (it appears to be dedicated in some way to remote administration; switching the monitor to that port causes an error message to appear on the monitor, and I couldn't find a way to actually use a monitor on that port). So I disabled the unused port by moving the hardware jumper and rebooted... and magically, now there is only one twin process and the flickering has stopped.
So I am tentatively considering that for my system this issue has been worked around.
I am fairly sure that there is a bug somewhere in TDE, because the problem should never have occurred -- and, indeed, doesn't occur with KDE. Somehow, it seems that if there are two graphics ports on the system, even though one has logged in via sddm with a monitor attached to just one port, two twin process are started, and they both try to write to the same port.
Anyway, unless it recurs for some reason, I think it's safe now for me to move on to the next issue :-)
Doc
On 12/06/2019 03:30 PM, D. R. Evans wrote:
Really hoping for some helpful suggestions. I really, really, really, don't want to give up and use KDE5.
You won't -- who wants to wait 5 min. for a desktop to start anyway :)
There are several things to check. The first, and I apologize I can't give you a chapter and verse here, but I do recall an issue with 2-panels being triggered plasma/TDE, and if I recall it had to do with the /etc/xdg/autostart stuff plasma adds to the box. Check the autostart folder for anything suspicious.
There is two of something running that is fighting for the same screen real estate.
Second, the underlying graphics system (driver, etc..) should be the same no matter what desktop you are running. How xrandr is used or what plasma does on its own can effect DPMS, etc.., but what pumps pixels to the screen from your GPU should be desktop agnostic.
David C. Rankin wrote on 12/7/19 12:29 AM:
On 12/06/2019 03:30 PM, D. R. Evans wrote:
Really hoping for some helpful suggestions. I really, really, really, don't want to give up and use KDE5.
There are several things to check. The first, and I apologize I can't give you a chapter and verse here, but I do recall an issue with 2-panels being triggered plasma/TDE, and if I recall it had to do with the /etc/xdg/autostart stuff plasma adds to the box. Check the autostart folder for anything suspicious.
I don't know what would be suspicious, but here are the contents of that directory:
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[ZB:autostart] ls -al total 172 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 20 Nov 11 14:40 . drwxr-xr-x 9 root root 192 Dec 6 10:19 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 202 Feb 9 2019 at-spi-dbus-bus.desktop -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1844 Jan 6 2019 baloo_file.desktop -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 223 Jan 12 2019 geoclue-demo-agent.desktop -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 937 Jan 8 2019 gmenudbusmenuproxy.desktop -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1474 Dec 30 2018 kdeconnectd.desktop -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 11708 Jan 8 2019 klipper.desktop -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3041 Nov 20 2018 konqy_preload.desktop -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1036 Jan 8 2019 krunner.desktop -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 272 Oct 20 2018 orca-autostart.desktop -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7112 Oct 30 2018 org.kde.korgac.desktop -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2374 Jan 8 2019 org.kde.plasmashell.desktop -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3908 Jan 24 2019 pam_kwallet_init.desktop -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3917 Jan 24 2019 polkit-kde-authentication-agent-1.desktop -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5495 Jan 24 2019 powerdevil.desktop -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7969 Dec 27 2018 print-applet.desktop -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4973 Aug 15 09:21 pulseaudio.desktop -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 212 Dec 27 2018 xdg-user-dirs.desktop -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1163 Jan 8 2019 xembedsniproxy.desktop [ZB:autostart]
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There is two of something running that is fighting for the same screen real estate.
That is an excellent thought. That's exactly what it looks like.
Second, the underlying graphics system (driver, etc..) should be the same no matter what desktop you are running. How xrandr is used or what plasma does on its own can effect DPMS, etc.., but what pumps pixels to the screen from your GPU should be desktop agnostic.
Right. And I don't see how it is likely to be the driver anyway, since the background wallpaper doesn't flicker, just the stuff that's layered on top of it. That fact is probably telling us something important, but I don't know what :-)
Doc
On 12/07/2019 09:20 AM, D. R. Evans wrote: I don't know what would be suspicious, but here are the contents of that directory:
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-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 11708 Jan 8 2019 klipper.desktop -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3041 Nov 20 2018 konqy_preload.desktop -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1036 Jan 8 2019 krunner.desktop -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7112 Oct 30 2018 org.kde.korgac.desktop -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2374 Jan 8 2019 org.kde.plasmashell.desktop -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3908 Jan 24 2019 pam_kwallet_init.desktop
All of it. Those pieces of plasma are started with X every time. So you are loading the parts of the plasma desktop necessary to support klipper (both plasma and TDE use differing versions), plasmashell, krunner, etc.. should have different names, but I wouldn't be surprised if plasma wasn't attempting to put its toolbar on the screen at the same time.
Further checks with top, ps axf, etc.. would be needed to confirm if you have 2 clipboard managers, 2 wallets or the like running at the same time all fighting for the same systray -- whichever desktop that happens to be.
D. R. Evans wrote:
More info:
The background doesn't flicker at all. What is flickering are the panel and the default icons on the desktop, many times a second.
If I succeed in bringing up the TDE menu (which, if I click enough times, eventually does appear when I succeed in timing a click at a moment when the desktop is accepting input), then the flickering stops for as long as the menu is visible.
Really hoping for some helpful suggestions. I really, really, really, don't want to give up and use KDE5.
Try the tderandrtray and set better resolution to match your screen.
flickering comes from many possible places but most often is the requency
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Really hoping for some helpful suggestions. I really, really, really, don't want to give up and use KDE5.
Just for info, I ran TDE in buster for all the time buster was testing and never had major issues. Sure, flickering can come from many places/reasons and your system may be different from mine. I would suggest trying installing a clean buster *without* any DE at all, then install TDE. At least if the flickering is still happening, we can be sure it is not related to other DE also installed. There is a bug open in buster related to flickering (bug 2955 - https://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2955), although that seems to be very specific to a particular dialog. Cheers Michele
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