18 Apr
2014
18 Apr
'14
3:10 a.m.
system: Debian Wheezy, TDE 3.5.13.2 amd64
I recieve construction drawings as pdf"s. These are ARCH D = 24x36 or
ANSI D = 22x34. I view them in kpdf, I print them to my printer using
Tabloid, paper size = 11x17.
Only an 8x11 image gets printed on the 11x17 page.. Can not figure out
how to get the correct size image, seems like shrink to fit, or some
such were options. Do not see any such in the kpdf print dialog.
Using krinter to print the same file it prints an 11x17 portion of the
larger file size.
kpdf has a different print dialog than kprinter...?,
Using cups, server:/var/run/cups/cups.sock
printer driver for my HP Offficejet Pro 8600: hpcups 3.12.6
--
Peace,
Greg
18 Apr
18 Apr
11:40 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] kpdf print function issue
Not a fix but have you tried using Adobe's Linux version of Reader? It is an
olderversion but still seems to work in most distributions it may do what you need.
On Thursday, April 17, 2014 11:16 PM, Greg Madden <gomadtroll(a)gci.net> wrote:
system: Debian Wheezy, TDE 3.5.13.2 amd64
I recieve construction drawings as pdf"s. These are ARCH D = 24x36 or
ANSI D = 22x34. I view them in kpdf, I print them to my printer using
Tabloid, paper size = 11x17.
Only an 8x11 image gets printed on the 11x17 page.. Can not figure out
how to get the correct size image, seems like shrink to fit, or some
such were options. Do not see any such in the kpdf print dialog.
Using krinter to print the same file it prints an 11x17 portion of the
larger file size.
kpdf has a different print dialog than kprinter...?,
Using cups, server:/var/run/cups/cups.sock
printer driver for my HP Offficejet Pro 8600: hpcups 3.12.6
--
Peace,
Greg
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12:22 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] kpdf print function issue
Le 18/04/2014 05:10, Greg Madden a écrit :
system: Debian Wheezy, TDE 3.5.13.2 amd64
I recieve construction drawings as pdf"s. These are ARCH D = 24x36 or
ANSI D = 22x34. I view them in kpdf, I print them to my printer using
Tabloid, paper size = 11x17.
Only an 8x11 image gets printed on the 11x17 page.. Can not figure out
how to get the correct size image, seems like shrink to fit, or some
such were options. Do not see any such in the kpdf print dialog.
Using krinter to print the same file it prints an 11x17 portion of the
larger file size.
kpdf has a different print dialog than kprinter...?,
Using cups, server:/var/run/cups/cups.sock
printer driver for my HP Offficejet Pro 8600: hpcups 3.12.6
If it is a one time go, The Gimp open PDF.
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19 Apr
12:59 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] kpdf print function issue
On Friday 18 April 2014 04:22:56 you wrote:
Le 18/04/2014 05:10, Greg Madden a écrit :
Thanks for the reply.
I do have solutions, evince and epdfview do the job. This is a core
business function.
Tried TDE R14 with Wheezy, same...tried the newer hpcups driver and the
older hpijs driver no joy.
I would prefer to use kpdf, probably used to work at some time, need to
find out what changed. The devs are spending alot of time getting all
the apps to work, afaikt, thought I would test ..again, kpdf. I usually
use 'best of ' apps for business, it is getting harder to do with all
the apps being part of desktop environments.
--
Peace,
Greg
system: Debian Wheezy, TDE 3.5.13.2 amd64
I recieve construction drawings as pdf"s. These are ARCH D = 24x36
or ANSI D = 22x34. I view them in kpdf, I print them to my printer
using Tabloid, paper size = 11x17.
Only an 8x11 image gets printed on the 11x17 page.. Can not figure
out how to get the correct size image, seems like shrink to fit, or
some such were options. Do not see any such in the kpdf print
dialog.
Using krinter to print the same file it prints an 11x17 portion of
the larger file size.
kpdf has a different print dialog than kprinter...?,
Using cups, server:/var/run/cups/cups.sock
printer driver for my HP Offficejet Pro 8600: hpcups 3.12.6
If it is a one time go, The Gimp open PDF.
2:39 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] kpdf print function issue
On Friday 18 April 2014 16:59:11 you wrote:
On Friday 18 April 2014 04:22:56 you wrote:
Officially confused,
Ledger=17"x11"
Tabloid=11"x17"
These are "North American paper sizes" Wikipedia
Ansi B defines the measurements as 11x17 with alias's of Ledger and
Tabloid.
Print dialog of kpdf lists Ledger as 11x17, no Tabloid
Print dialog of Evince lists Tabloid as 17x11, no Ledger entry.
Both just the opposite of North American paper sizes, though I will not
assume to know which standard the cups devs used..there are quite a
few.
bah humbug
--
Peace,
Greg
Le 18/04/2014 05:10, Greg Madden a écrit :
Thanks for the reply.
I do have solutions, evince and epdfview do the job. This is a core
business function.
Tried TDE R14 with Wheezy, same...tried the newer hpcups driver and
the older hpijs driver no joy.
I would prefer to use kpdf, probably used to work at some time, need
to find out what changed. The devs are spending alot of time getting
all the apps to work, afaikt, thought I would test ..again, kpdf. I
usually use 'best of ' apps for business, it is getting harder to do
with all the apps being part of desktop environments. system: Debian Wheezy, TDE 3.5.13.2 amd64
I recieve construction drawings as pdf"s. These are ARCH D =
24x36 or ANSI D = 22x34. I view them in kpdf, I print them to my
printer using Tabloid, paper size = 11x17.
Only an 8x11 image gets printed on the 11x17 page.. Can not
figure out how to get the correct size image, seems like shrink
to fit, or some such were options. Do not see any such in the
kpdf print dialog.
Using krinter to print the same file it prints an 11x17 portion
of the larger file size.
kpdf has a different print dialog than kprinter...?,
Using cups, server:/var/run/cups/cups.sock
printer driver for my HP Offficejet Pro 8600: hpcups 3.12.6
If it is a one time go, The Gimp open PDF. 
9:25 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] kpdf print function issue
On Saturday 19 April 2014 02:39:20 Greg Madden wrote:
On Friday 18 April 2014 16:59:11 you wrote:
Isn't one just "Portrait" and the other "Landscape" !
--
Best Regards:
Baron.
On Friday 18 April 2014 04:22:56 you wrote:
Officially confused,
Ledger=17"x11"
Tabloid=11"x17"
These are "North American paper sizes" Wikipedia
Ansi B defines the measurements as 11x17 with alias's of Ledger and
Tabloid.
Print dialog of kpdf lists Ledger as 11x17, no Tabloid
Print dialog of Evince lists Tabloid as 17x11, no Ledger entry.
Both just the opposite of North American paper sizes, though I will
not assume to know which standard the cups devs used..there are quite
a few.
bah humbug Le 18/04/2014 05:10, Greg Madden a écrit :
Thanks for the reply.
I do have solutions, evince and epdfview do the job. This is a core
business function.
Tried TDE R14 with Wheezy, same...tried the newer hpcups driver
and the older hpijs driver no joy.
I would prefer to use kpdf, probably used to work at some time,
need to find out what changed. The devs are spending alot of time
getting all the apps to work, afaikt, thought I would test ..again,
kpdf. I usually use 'best of ' apps for business, it is getting
harder to do with all the apps being part of desktop environments. system: Debian Wheezy, TDE 3.5.13.2 amd64
I recieve construction drawings as pdf"s. These are ARCH D =
24x36 or ANSI D = 22x34. I view them in kpdf, I print them to
my printer using Tabloid, paper size = 11x17.
Only an 8x11 image gets printed on the 11x17 page.. Can not
figure out how to get the correct size image, seems like shrink
to fit, or some such were options. Do not see any such in the
kpdf print dialog.
Using krinter to print the same file it prints an 11x17 portion
of the larger file size.
kpdf has a different print dialog than kprinter...?,
Using cups, server:/var/run/cups/cups.sock
printer driver for my HP Offficejet Pro 8600: hpcups 3.12.6
If it is a one time go, The Gimp open PDF.
6:17 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] kpdf print function issue
Hi Lisi
On Saturday 19 April 2014 17:28:40 Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Saturday 19 April 2014 10:25:58 Baron wrote:
Now what on earth makes you think that I am an American ?
--
Best Regards:
Baron.
Isn't one just "Portrait" and the
other "Landscape" !
Another American who doesn't realise that there are four non-American
continents on the globe. :-/
Lisi 
10:08 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] kpdf print function issue
On Saturday 19 April 2014 19:17:48 Baron wrote:
Hi Lisi
On Saturday 19 April 2014 17:28:40 Lisi Reisz wrote:
The fact that you don't acknowledge the existence of other paper
sizes. Non-Americans know that the rest if the world exists. Many
(most?) USA citizens don't.
And most of the world is Metric not Imperial.
Unless of course what you said was a joke. I'm not good at
recognising jokes without a smiley.
Lisi
On Saturday 19 April 2014 10:25:58 Baron wrote:
Now what on earth makes you think that I am an American ? Isn't one just "Portrait" and the
other "Landscape" !
Another American who doesn't realise that there are four
non-American continents on the globe. :-/
Lisi
11:39 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] kpdf print function issue
On Saturday 19 April 2014 22:08:42 Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Saturday 19 April 2014 19:17:48 Baron wrote:
No ! I am not from the USA, although I've been there several times.
Yes I agree that most of the world is metric, though paper sizes have
been standardised for a good number of years. The USA does seem to
have some odd sizes compared to Europe and 17x11 inches is not one that
I am familiar with, though turning the page through 90 degrees would
correspond to the descriptions I gave.
I think I will keep you guessing a little longer. :-) :-) :-)
--
Best Regards:
Baron.
Hi Lisi
On Saturday 19 April 2014 17:28:40 Lisi Reisz wrote:
The fact that you don't acknowledge the existence of other paper
sizes. Non-Americans know that the rest if the world exists. Many
(most?) USA citizens don't.
And most of the world is Metric not Imperial.
Unless of course what you said was a joke. I'm not good at
recognising jokes without a smiley.
Lisi On Saturday 19 April 2014 10:25:58 Baron wrote:
Now what on earth makes you think that I am an American ? Isn't one just "Portrait" and the
other "Landscape" !
Another American who doesn't realise that there are four
non-American continents on the globe. :-/
Lisi
20 Apr
20 Apr
12:32 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] kpdf print function issue
On Saturday 19 April 2014 14:08:42 you wrote:
On Saturday 19 April 2014 19:17:48 Baron wrote:
> Hi Lisi
>
> On Saturday 19 April 2014 17:28:40 Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > On Saturday 19 April 2014 10:25:58 Baron wrote:
> > > Isn't one just "Portrait" and the other
"Landscape" !
> >
> > Another American who doesn't realise that there are four
> > non-American continents on the globe. :-/
> >
> > Lisi
>
> Now what on earth makes you think that I am an American ?
from the command line; " whois linuxmaniac.net" :-)
--
Peace,
Greg
8:17 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] kpdf print function issue
Hi Greg,
On Sunday 20 April 2014 00:32:05 Greg Madden wrote:
On Saturday 19 April 2014 14:08:42 you wrote:
Yes ! Linuxmaniac.net is a New York registered domain. But its is just
one of several that I could use ! The name appealed to me so I got an
Email account with them.
Nice try though. :-) :-) :-)
--
Best Regards:
Baron.
On Saturday 19 April 2014 19:17:48 Baron wrote:
> Hi Lisi
>
> On Saturday 19 April 2014 17:28:40 Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > On Saturday 19 April 2014 10:25:58 Baron wrote:
> > > Isn't one just "Portrait" and the other
"Landscape" !
> >
> > Another American who doesn't realise that there are four
> > non-American continents on the globe. :-/
> >
> > Lisi
>
> Now what on earth makes you think that I am an American ?
from the command line; " whois linuxmaniac.net" :-)
2:30 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] kpdf print function issue
On Saturday 19 April 2014 01:25:58 you wrote:
On Saturday 19 April 2014 02:39:20 Greg Madden wrote:
That may be how the cups devs (or is it the document viewer app devs?)
see it. I was getting a bit distracted though with all the standards and
such...the bottom line my 34x22 images are not resized correctly for
17x11 paper. They are being resized..printed as 8.5x11..orientation is
correct.
Testing other document viewer apps :
evince v.3.4.0-3.1 prints correctly in Debian Wheezy, TDE 3.5.13.2. The
main difference is the print dialog box has a 'page handling' tab which
contains 3 options, which are lacking in all other print dialog boxes I
tested.
1. Page scaling: none;fit to printable area: shrink to printable area.
2.auto rotate and center
3 select page size using document paper size.
Okular in Jessie, KDE 4.11.x does not work for me, kpdf does not work in
Squeeze either. I know the driver has the capability , I have an HP8600
Officejet Pro, HP supplies good drivers, afaikt.
Not a good sign that evince works for me in Wheezy but does not work in
Jessie v 3.12.0-1..better stay with Wheezy
--
Peace,
Greg
On Friday 18 April 2014 16:59:11 you wrote:
Isn't one just "Portrait" and the other "Landscape" ! On Friday 18 April 2014 04:22:56 you wrote:
Officially confused,
Ledger=17"x11"
Tabloid=11"x17"
These are "North American paper sizes" Wikipedia
Ansi B defines the measurements as 11x17 with alias's of Ledger and
Tabloid.
Print dialog of kpdf lists Ledger as 11x17, no Tabloid
Print dialog of Evince lists Tabloid as 17x11, no Ledger entry.
Both just the opposite of North American paper sizes, though I will
not assume to know which standard the cups devs used..there are
quite a few.
bah humbug Le 18/04/2014 05:10, Greg Madden a écrit :
> system: Debian Wheezy, TDE 3.5.13.2 amd64
>
> I recieve construction drawings as pdf"s. These are ARCH D =
> 24x36 or ANSI D = 22x34. I view them in kpdf, I print them to
> my printer using Tabloid, paper size = 11x17.
>
> Only an 8x11 image gets printed on the 11x17 page.. Can not
> figure out how to get the correct size image, seems like
> shrink to fit, or some such were options. Do not see any
> such in the kpdf print dialog.
>
> Using krinter to print the same file it prints an 11x17
> portion of the larger file size.
>
> kpdf has a different print dialog than kprinter...?,
>
> Using cups, server:/var/run/cups/cups.sock
> printer driver for my HP Offficejet Pro 8600: hpcups 3.12.6
If it is a one time go, The Gimp open PDF.
Thanks for the reply.
I do have solutions, evince and epdfview do the job. This is a
core business function.
Tried TDE R14 with Wheezy, same...tried the newer hpcups driver
and the older hpijs driver no joy.
I would prefer to use kpdf, probably used to work at some time,
need to find out what changed. The devs are spending alot of time
getting all the apps to work, afaikt, thought I would test
..again, kpdf. I usually use 'best of ' apps for business, it is
getting harder to do with all the apps being part of desktop
environments. 
7:38 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] kpdf print function issue
On Sunday 20 April 2014 04.30:57 Greg Madden wrote:
(...)
> > > > > I recieve construction
drawings as pdf"s. These are ARCH D =
> > > > > 24x36 or ANSI D = 22x34. I view them in kpdf, I print them to
> > > > > my printer using Tabloid, paper size = 11x17.
> > > > >
> > > > > Only an 8x11 image gets printed on the 11x17 page.. Can not
> > > > > figure out how to get the correct size image, seems like
> > > > > shrink to fit, or some such were options. Do not see any
> > > > > such in the kpdf print dialog.
> > > > >
> > > > > Using krinter to print the same file it prints an 11x17
> > > > > portion of the larger file size.
> > > > >
> > > > > kpdf has a different print dialog than kprinter...?,
> > > > >
> > > > > Using cups, server:/var/run/cups/cups.sock
> > > > > printer driver for my HP Offficejet Pro 8600: hpcups 3.12.6
You don't say if you went to cups to set up your printer. For my HP CP1215 I
get a possibility to define a custom paper size, I don't know if this could
help.
Thierry
7:54 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] kpdf print function issue
On 04/20/2014 02:38 PM, Thierry de Coulon wrote:
On Sunday 20 April 2014 04.30:57 Greg Madden wrote:
(...)
Same here for my HP Deskjet........before the smoke came out :-)
>>>>> I recieve construction
drawings as pdf"s. These are ARCH D =
>>>>> 24x36 or ANSI D = 22x34. I view them in kpdf, I print them to
>>>>> my printer using Tabloid, paper size = 11x17.
>>>>>
>>>>> Only an 8x11 image gets printed on the 11x17 page.. Can not
>>>>> figure out how to get the correct size image, seems like
>>>>> shrink to fit, or some such were options. Do not see any
>>>>> such in the kpdf print dialog.
>>>>>
>>>>> Using krinter to print the same file it prints an 11x17
>>>>> portion of the larger file size.
>>>>>
>>>>> kpdf has a different print dialog than kprinter...?,
>>>>>
>>>>> Using cups, server:/var/run/cups/cups.sock
>>>>> printer driver for my HP Offficejet Pro 8600: hpcups 3.12.6
You don't say if you went to cups to set up your printer. For my HP CP1215 I
get a possibility to define a custom paper size, I don't know if this could
help.
Thierry
11:18 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] kpdf print function issue
On Saturday 19 April 2014 10:25:58 Baron wrote:
On Saturday 19 April 2014 02:39:20 Greg Madden wrote:
To continue from lower (sorry. ;-( ), 17x11 is a size. (Called
foolscap, among other names.) Portrait and Landscape are
orientations. This suggests that everything except orientation is
fixed and immutable. At least, that is what it suggested to me. From
what you say, it is not what it was intended to suggest.
Lisi
On Friday 18 April 2014 16:59:11 you wrote:
Isn't one just "Portrait" and the other "Landscape" ! On Friday 18 April 2014 04:22:56 you wrote:
Officially confused,
Ledger=17"x11"
Tabloid=11"x17"
These are "North American paper sizes" Wikipedia
Ansi B defines the measurements as 11x17 with alias's of Ledger
and Tabloid.
Print dialog of kpdf lists Ledger as 11x17, no Tabloid
Print dialog of Evince lists Tabloid as 17x11, no Ledger entry.
Both just the opposite of North American paper sizes, though I
will not assume to know which standard the cups devs used..there
are quite a few.
bah humbug Le 18/04/2014 05:10, Greg Madden a écrit :
> system: Debian Wheezy, TDE 3.5.13.2 amd64
>
> I recieve construction drawings as pdf"s. These are ARCH D
> = 24x36 or ANSI D = 22x34. I view them in kpdf, I print
> them to my printer using Tabloid, paper size = 11x17.
>
> Only an 8x11 image gets printed on the 11x17 page.. Can not
> figure out how to get the correct size image, seems like
> shrink to fit, or some such were options. Do not see any
> such in the kpdf print dialog.
>
> Using krinter to print the same file it prints an 11x17
> portion of the larger file size.
>
> kpdf has a different print dialog than kprinter...?,
>
> Using cups, server:/var/run/cups/cups.sock
> printer driver for my HP Offficejet Pro 8600: hpcups
> 3.12.6
If it is a one time go, The Gimp open PDF.
Thanks for the reply.
I do have solutions, evince and epdfview do the job. This is a
core business function.
Tried TDE R14 with Wheezy, same...tried the newer hpcups
driver and the older hpijs driver no joy.
I would prefer to use kpdf, probably used to work at some time,
need to find out what changed. The devs are spending alot of
time getting all the apps to work, afaikt, thought I would test
..again, kpdf. I usually use 'best of ' apps for business, it
is getting harder to do with all the apps being part of desktop
environments.
6:35 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] kpdf print function issue
Hi Lisi,
On Sunday 20 April 2014 11:18:17 Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Saturday 19 April 2014 10:25:58 Baron wrote:
Don't worry about it at all. :-) I'm not in the least bit fussed.
As far as you thinking that I'm an American. I found that very amusing.
Sorry for teasing you a little bit. :-)
Anyway I'm a true blue, gods own county, Yorkshireman.
--
Best Regards:
Baron.
On Saturday 19 April 2014 02:39:20 Greg Madden
wrote:
To continue from lower (sorry. ;-( ), 17x11 is a size. (Called
foolscap, among other names.) Portrait and Landscape are
orientations. This suggests that everything except orientation is
fixed and immutable. At least, that is what it suggested to me. From
what you say, it is not what it was intended to suggest.
Lisi On Friday 18 April 2014 16:59:11 you wrote:
Isn't one just "Portrait" and the other "Landscape" ! On Friday 18 April 2014 04:22:56 you wrote:
> Le 18/04/2014 05:10, Greg Madden a écrit :
> > system: Debian Wheezy, TDE 3.5.13.2 amd64
> >
> > I recieve construction drawings as pdf"s. These are ARCH D
> > = 24x36 or ANSI D = 22x34. I view them in kpdf, I print
> > them to my printer using Tabloid, paper size = 11x17.
> >
> > Only an 8x11 image gets printed on the 11x17 page.. Can not
> > figure out how to get the correct size image, seems like
> > shrink to fit, or some such were options. Do not see any
> > such in the kpdf print dialog.
> >
> > Using krinter to print the same file it prints an 11x17
> > portion of the larger file size.
> >
> > kpdf has a different print dialog than kprinter...?,
> >
> > Using cups, server:/var/run/cups/cups.sock
> > printer driver for my HP Offficejet Pro 8600: hpcups
> > 3.12.6
>
> If it is a one time go, The Gimp open PDF.
Thanks for the reply.
I do have solutions, evince and epdfview do the job. This is a
core business function.
Tried TDE R14 with Wheezy, same...tried the newer hpcups
driver and the older hpijs driver no joy.
I would prefer to use kpdf, probably used to work at some time,
need to find out what changed. The devs are spending alot of
time getting all the apps to work, afaikt, thought I would test
..again, kpdf. I usually use 'best of ' apps for business, it
is getting harder to do with all the apps being part of desktop
environments.
Officially confused,
Ledger=17"x11"
Tabloid=11"x17"
These are "North American paper sizes" Wikipedia
Ansi B defines the measurements as 11x17 with alias's of Ledger
and Tabloid.
Print dialog of kpdf lists Ledger as 11x17, no Tabloid
Print dialog of Evince lists Tabloid as 17x11, no Ledger entry.
Both just the opposite of North American paper sizes, though I
will not assume to know which standard the cups devs used..there
are quite a few.
bah humbug
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