11 Sep
2023
11 Sep
'23
9:17 p.m.
I have a simple mind, so I have an equally simple requirement for Kate... when
I click on a text file in konqueror, I want kate to open with only one pane:
the edit pane showing the contents of the file on which I clicked.
I am sure it used to work exactly this way, but somehow it seems that my
configuration now is wrong: what happens now when kate opens is that there is
an extra pane on the left hand side, containing the names of several
recently-edited files. I suspect, given the amount of time that kate is now
taking to open, that kate is actually reading those files into memory. I don't
want any of that to happen: I want just a clean view of the contents of the
file I want to edit.
I'm sure it's a simple thing to fix, but I've wasted a ridiculous amount of
time trying to figure out, without success, how to change the configuration so
that kate doesn't occupy screen space with a list of recently-edited files.
So if someone can give me the magic configuration item(s) to change, I would
very much appreciate it.
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11 Sep
11 Sep
9:23 p.m.
On Monday 11 of September 2023 23:17:59 D. R. Evans via tde-users wrote:
I have a simple mind, so I have an equally simple
requirement for
Kate... when I click on a text file in konqueror, I want kate to open
with only one pane: the edit pane showing the contents of the file on
which I clicked.
I am sure it used to work exactly this way, but somehow it seems that my
configuration now is wrong: what happens now when kate opens is that
there is an extra pane on the left hand side, containing the names of
several recently-edited files. I suspect, given the amount of time that
kate is now taking to open, that kate is actually reading those files
into memory. I don't want any of that to happen: I want just a clean
view of the contents of the file I want to edit.
I'm sure it's a simple thing to fix, but I've wasted a ridiculous amount
of time trying to figure out, without success, how to change the
configuration so that kate doesn't occupy screen space with a list of
recently-edited files.
So if someone can give me the magic configuration item(s) to change, I
would very much appreciate it.
Doc
Hi Doc,
is it possible that the solution is: "Set as the default editor kwrite
instead of kate"?
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11:15 p.m.
Slávek Banko via tde-users wrote on 9/11/23 15:23:
Hi Doc,
is it possible that the solution is: "Set as the default editor kwrite
instead of kate"?
Possibly. I've never used it before. So I just tried it and couldn't see how
to do the first thing I wanted to do: split the screen :-(
Doubtless there's a way to do that, but I couldn't find anything to tell me
how. (The kwrite handbook is silent on the topic.)
So that doesn't bode well for using kwrite instead of kate.
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11:30 p.m.
On 2023-09-11 04:17 PM, D. R. Evans via tde-users wrote:
I have a simple mind, so I have an equally simple
requirement for
Kate... when I click on a text file in konqueror, I want kate to open
with only one pane: the edit pane showing the contents of the file on
which I clicked.
I am sure it used to work exactly this way, but somehow it seems that
my configuration now is wrong: what happens now when kate opens is that
there is an extra pane on the left hand side, containing the names of
several recently-edited files. I suspect, given the amount of time that
kate is now taking to open, that kate is actually reading those files
into memory. I don't want any of that to happen: I want just a clean
view of the contents of the file I want to edit.
I'm sure it's a simple thing to fix, but I've wasted a ridiculous
amount of time trying to figure out, without success, how to change the
configuration so that kate doesn't occupy screen space with a list of
recently-edited files.
So if someone can give me the magic configuration item(s) to change, I
would very much appreciate it.
Doc
Sounds like a Kate session. By default, Kate saves sessions and loads
them on application start. You can change it to always start a new
session on launch under 'Configure Kate... > Application > Sessions'.
You should also select 'Do not save sessions' on the exit behavior on
the same page.
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12 Sep
12 Sep
7:44 a.m.
Anno domini 2023 Mon, 11 Sep 18:30:45 -0500
Wirlaburla via tde-users scripsit:
[...]
Sounds like a Kate session. By default, Kate saves sessions and loads
them on application start. You can change it to always start a new
session on launch under 'Configure Kate... > Application > Sessions'.
You should also select 'Do not save sessions' on the exit behavior on
the same page.
But you cannot save the visibility of the left side panel. This was on the list some weeks
ago :)
Nik
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5:18 p.m.
Dr. Nikolaus Klepp via tde-users wrote on 9/12/23 01:44:
Anno domini 2023 Mon, 11 Sep 18:30:45 -0500
Wirlaburla via tde-users scripsit:
Yes; that was probably when I was trying to tame the 300+ sessions called
"Unnamed" that kate had somehow accumulated :-)
Sessions don't seem to be saved any more, so that's good. But I am now stuck
with the visible left side panel (and, probably worse, the fact that kate now
seems to be loading several huge files into memory every time I start it).
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[...]
Sounds like a Kate session. By default, Kate saves sessions and loads
them on application start. You can change it to always start a new
session on launch under 'Configure Kate... > Application > Sessions'.
You should also select 'Do not save sessions' on the exit behavior on
the same page.
But you cannot save the visibility of the left side panel. This was on the list some
weeks ago :)
6:14 p.m.
On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 11:18:34 -0600
"D. R. Evans via tde-users" <users(a)trinitydesktop.org> wrote:
Dr. Nikolaus Klepp via tde-users wrote on 9/12/23
01:44:
You should try to enable "Include window configuration" setting in
Application/Sessions section of Configure dialog, then close sidebar and restart Kate.
Anno domini 2023 Mon, 11 Sep 18:30:45 -0500
Wirlaburla via tde-users scripsit:
Yes; that was probably when I was trying to tame the 300+ sessions called
"Unnamed" that kate had somehow accumulated :-)
Sessions don't seem to be saved any more, so that's good. But I am now stuck
with the visible left side panel (and, probably worse, the fact that kate now
seems to be loading several huge files into memory every time I start it).
Doc
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Sounds like a Kate session. By default, Kate saves sessions and loads
them on application start. You can change it to always start a new
session on launch under 'Configure Kate... > Application > Sessions'.
You should also select 'Do not save sessions' on the exit behavior on
the same page.
But you cannot save the visibility of the left side panel. This was on the list some
weeks ago :)
8:24 p.m.
Ivan via tde-users wrote on 9/12/23 12:14:
You should try to enable "Include window configuration" setting in
Application/Sessions section of Configure dialog, then close sidebar and
restart Kate.
I already have that checked :-(
Explicitly:
1. in konqueror, click on a text file;
2. kate opens, with the sidebar;
3. remove sidebar;
4. close kate.
Sometime later...
5. in konqueror, click on a text file;
6. kate opens, with the sidebar;
Attached is the complete katerc configuration file as it currently exists on
the system (if the reflector will allow the attachment to appear). Maybe
somebody can spot the error.
[Just to be clear: kate generated the file, based on the configuration
dialogues; I did not create or edit it manually.]
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10:38 p.m.
On Tuesday 12 September 2023 21:24:17 D. R. Evans via tde-users wrote:
Ivan via tde-users wrote on 9/12/23 12:14:
if files are listed in the sidebar is because you opened a session - not
a 'blank' kate
open the sidebar and use the 'close' button to remove those files from the
session
close the sidebar
then go to settings >> config kate
choose >> sessions
choose >> do not save session (files will not be added to the sidebar)
enable >> 'include window config' - then save the session (as default?)
if I understand your problem correctly, that may possibly clear up things
Lou
You should try to enable "Include window
configuration" setting in
Application/Sessions section of Configure dialog, then close sidebar and
restart Kate.
I already have that checked :-(
Explicitly:
1. in konqueror, click on a text file;
2. kate opens, with the sidebar;
3. remove sidebar;
4. close kate.
Sometime later...
5. in konqueror, click on a text file;
6. kate opens, with the sidebar;
Attached is the complete katerc configuration file as it currently exists
on the system (if the reflector will allow the attachment to appear). Maybe
somebody can spot the error.
[Just to be clear: kate generated the file, based on the configuration
dialogues; I did not create or edit it manually.]
Doc
13 Sep
13 Sep
3:22 p.m.
Lou Gogan via tde-users wrote on 9/12/23 16:38:
open the sidebar and use the 'close' button to remove those files from the
session
OK; done that.
close the sidebar
OK; done that.
then go to settings >> config kate
choose >> sessions
choose >> do not save session (files will not be added to the sidebar)
enable >> 'include window config' - then save the session (as
default?)
I'm not sure what you mean by "save the session (as default?)" at the end.
Do
you mean that I should call the session "default" when I save it? I tried
that, and when I reopen kate, the sidebar is still present.
I will attach the current version of katerc, as it stands after executing your
suggestions.
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9:07 p.m.
On Wednesday 13 September 2023 16:22:53 D. R. Evans via tde-users wrote:
Lou Gogan via tde-users wrote on 9/12/23 16:38:
Doc
makinging a session the 'default' means whatever changes you make re sidebar
etc will be in the session which is automatically opened when to want to edit
a file
how many session choices are there, when you open kate?
you should see which is the 'defuault' session
open the sidebar and use the 'close'
button to remove those files from
the session
OK; done that.
close the sidebar
OK; done that.
then go to settings >> config kate
choose >> sessions
choose >> do not save session (files will not be added to the sidebar)
enable >> 'include window config' - then save the session (as
default?)
I'm not sure what you mean by "save the session (as default?)" at the end.
Do you mean that I should call the session "default" when I save it? I
tried that, and when I reopen kate, the sidebar is still present.
I will attach the current version of katerc, as it stands after executing
your suggestions.
Doc
then go to settings >> config kate
choose >> sessions
choose >> do not save session (files will not be added to the sidebar)
ie it will be a blank session
enable >> 'include window config' - then save the session
these actions should keep the sidebar from being opened - in the session which
is the 'default' session
have you tried that???
Lou
14 Sep
14 Sep
4:17 p.m.
Lou Gogan via tde-users wrote on 9/13/23 15:07:
I'm sorry; I stil don't understand what you're trying to tell me :-(
On Wednesday 13 September 2023 16:22:53 D. R. Evans via tde-users wrote:
I'm not sure what you mean by "save the session (as default?)" at the end.
Do you mean that I should call the session "default" when I save it? I
tried that, and when I reopen kate, the sidebar is still present.
Doc
makinging a session the 'default' means whatever changes you make re sidebar
etc will be in the session which is automatically opened when to want to edit
a file
how many session choices are there, when you open
kate?
If I go to Sessions | Select Session there is no choice, just "Unnamed".
you should see which is the 'defuault'
session
I guess that "Unnamed" is the default session, then.
then go to settings >> config kate
choose >> sessions
choose >> do not save session (files will not be added to the sidebar)
ie it will be a blank session
That is already the selected item in the configuration dialogue.
enable >> 'include window config'
- then save the session
That is already the selected item in the configuration dialogue.
(See the attached screenshot.)
these actions should keep the sidebar from being
opened - in the session which
is the 'default' session
I am still very confused about what you mean by "default session". But the
configuration items are selected as I describe above, and when I click on the
name of a text file in konqueror, kate still opens with a sidebar on the left
(and the sidebar contains [only] the name of the file on which I clicked).
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8:30 p.m.
On Thursday 14 September 2023 17:17:25 D. R. Evans via tde-users wrote:
Lou Gogan via tde-users wrote on 9/13/23 15:07:
It seems as if you have only 1 session - it IS the default session
The config image looks correct
All I can advise is that AFTER closing the sidebar, MANUALLY save the session
(sessions, save) close Kate, then open it again. The sidebar should remain
closed.
If the sidebar remains open there is a glitch somewhere.
the only other thing I can think of is to actually name the session - to see
if for some reason - that would make a difference (sessions, save as)
other than that it is just a case of closing the sidebar each time
Lou
On Wednesday 13 September 2023 16:22:53 D. R.
Evans via tde-users wrote:
I'm sorry; I stil don't understand what you're trying to tell me :-(
I'm not sure what you mean by "save the
session (as default?)" at the
end. Do you mean that I should call the session "default" when I save
it? I tried that, and when I reopen kate, the sidebar is still present.
Doc
makinging a session the 'default' means whatever changes you make re
sidebar etc will be in the session which is automatically opened when to
want to edit a file how many session choices are there, when you open
kate?
If I go to Sessions | Select Session there is no choice, just "Unnamed".
you should see which is the 'defuault'
session
I guess that "Unnamed" is the default session, then.
then go to settings >> config kate
choose >> sessions
choose >> do not save session (files will not be added to the
sidebar) ie it will be a blank session
That is already the selected item in the configuration dialogue.
enable >> 'include window
config' - then save the session
That is already the selected item in the configuration dialogue.
(See the attached screenshot.)
these actions should keep the sidebar from being
opened - in the session
which is the 'default' session
I am still very confused about what you mean by "default session". But the
configuration items are selected as I describe above, and when I click on
the name of a text file in konqueror, kate still opens with a sidebar on
the left (and the sidebar contains [only] the name of the file on which I
clicked).
Doc
18 Sep
18 Sep
11:10 p.m.
Lou Gogan via tde-users wrote on 9/14/23 14:30:
All I can advise is that AFTER closing the sidebar, MANUALLY save the session
(sessions, save) close Kate, then open it again. The sidebar should remain
closed.
At the "Sessions | Save" point, after closing the sidebar, I am prompted for a
session name, which suggests that I will no longer have just one session.
But I gave it a name anyway. Then I closed kate. Then opened kate again. And
the sidebar was still present.
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19 Sep
19 Sep
5:32 a.m.
On 2023-09-18 18:10:16 you wrote:
Lou Gogan via tde-users wrote on 9/14/23 14:30:
Configuration of the Sessions feature in Kate has always been confusing (at
least for you and me).
If you Click on Sessions => Select Session > how many sessions do you see?
In the image you posted, 'Behavior on Application Exit or Session Switch' at
the bottom is set to 'Do not save session'; perhaps, though you have created
a new session, your session info was not saved into it? You could change
that to 'Ask user' to see if that helps.
Leslie
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All I can advise is that AFTER closing the
sidebar, MANUALLY save the
session (sessions, save) close Kate, then open it again. The sidebar
should remain closed.
At the "Sessions | Save" point, after closing the sidebar, I am prompted
for a session name, which suggests that I will no longer have just one
session.
But I gave it a name anyway. Then I closed kate. Then opened kate again.
And the sidebar was still present.
Doc
8:38 p.m.
J Leslie Turriff via tde-users wrote on 9/18/23 23:32:
Configuration of the Sessions feature in Kate has always been confusing (at
least for you and me).
If you Click on Sessions => Select Session > how many sessions do you see?
One (called "Unnamed").
In the image you posted, 'Behavior on Application
Exit or Session Switch' at
the bottom is set to 'Do not save session'; perhaps, though you have created
a new session, your session info was not saved into it? You could change
that to 'Ask user' to see if that helps.
I did that, and it changed things, although not really a help:
With "Do not save session" selected:
1. Open blank kate.
This has a sidebar with "Untitled" in it.
2. Change session configuration to: "Ask user".
3. Remove sidebar.
4. File | Quit
Asks me whether to save the session; click "Save".
---
5. Open blank kate.
No sidebar. Good. But...
6. Type some text.
7. File | Quit
Asks me whether to save the file.
I select yes, and give it a filename.
Asks me whether to save the session; click "Delete".
[I note that this option says that it will delete ALL saved sessions, not just
the current one. I don't see a way in this dialogue to delete the current
session but keep the one that was present when kate started.]
---
8. Open blank kate.
Back to having a sidebar with "Untitled" in it.
So that's still not right :-(
----
I also tried the following in an attempt to finesse the lack of an option to
keep the session information that was used when kate opens.
Starting from the same original configuration:
1. Open blank kate.
This has a sidebar with "Untitled" in it.
2. Change session configuration to: "Ask user".
3. Remove sidebar.
4. File | Quit
Asks me whether to save the session; click "Save".
5. Open blank kate.
No sidebar. Good.
6. Change Session configuration to: do not save.
Logically, then, if I now close and re-open kate, it will open with no
sidebar, as no new session will be stored during the exit, and re-opening kate
should therefore be exactly the same as in step 5.
7. File | Quit.
No dialogue box. Good. When this step concludes, I reckon that I should
be in exactly the same state as at the end of step 4, as no new session has
been written to disk.
8. Open blank kate.
This has a sidebar with "Untitled" in it.
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22 Sep
22 Sep
7:34 p.m.
On 2023-09-19 15:38:26 you wrote:
J Leslie Turriff via tde-users wrote on 9/18/23
23:32:
But why did
you want to delete the session which is remembering that you
don't want the sidebar to be displayed?
Now that you know that the session is recording that, you can change 'Ask
user' to 'Save session' (it really means 'Re-save session') and it
will
remember it forever. 'Load last-used session' and 'Save session' will do
what you want.
Leslie
Configuration of the Sessions feature in Kate
has always been confusing
(at least for you and me).
If you Click on Sessions => Select Session > how many sessions do you
see?
One (called "Unnamed").
In the image you posted, 'Behavior on
Application Exit or Session
Switch' at the bottom is set to 'Do not save session'; perhaps, though
you have created a new session, your session info was not saved into it?
You could change that to 'Ask user' to see if that helps.
I did that, and it changed things, although not really a help:
With "Do not save session" selected:
1. Open blank kate.
This has a sidebar with "Untitled" in it.
2. Change session configuration to: "Ask user".
3. Remove sidebar.
4. File | Quit
Asks me whether to save the session; click "Save".
---
5. Open blank kate.
No sidebar. Good. But...
6. Type some text.
7. File | Quit
Asks me whether to save the file.
I select yes, and give it a filename.
Asks me whether to save the session; click "Delete".
[I note that this option says that it will delete ALL saved sessions, not
just the current one. I don't see a way in this dialogue to delete the
current session but keep the one that was present when kate started.]
---
8. Open blank kate.
Back to having a sidebar with "Untitled" in it.
So that's still not right :-(
----
I also tried the following in an attempt to finesse the lack of an option
to keep the session information that was used when kate opens.
Starting from the same original configuration:
1. Open blank kate.
This has a sidebar with "Untitled" in it.
2. Change session configuration to: "Ask user".
3. Remove sidebar.
4. File | Quit
Asks me whether to save the session; click "Save".
5. Open blank kate.
No sidebar. Good.
6. Change Session configuration to: do not save.
Logically, then, if I now close and re-open kate, it will open with no
sidebar, as no new session will be stored during the exit, and re-opening
kate should therefore be exactly the same as in step 5.
7. File | Quit.
No dialogue box. Good. When this step concludes, I reckon that I
should be in exactly the same state as at the end of step 4, as no new
session has been written to disk.
8. Open blank kate.
This has a sidebar with "Untitled" in it.
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8:05 p.m.
J Leslie Turriff via tde-users wrote on 9/22/23 13:34:
On 2023-09-19 15:38:26 you wrote:
??? I wanted to delete the new session that I was in, so that it wouldn't get
written to disk, so that when I next opened kate, it would be in the same
state as in state 5.
There are three session-related choices when I quit: Save, Delete, Cancel.
Cancel obviously isn't right, because that cancels the attempt to quit. Save
isn't right, because if I do that, the next time I open kate, it remembers the
text I type in 6, and also gives me the sidebar. So "delete" was the only
thing that made sense.
Feel free to tell me what I should have selected... but I've explicitly tried
both Save and Delete, and neither did the right thing.
J Leslie Turriff via tde-users wrote on 9/18/23
23:32:
But why did
you want to delete the session which is remembering that you
don't want the sidebar to be displayed? Configuration of the Sessions feature in Kate
has always been confusing
(at least for you and me).
If you Click on Sessions => Select Session > how many sessions do you
see?
One (called "Unnamed").
In the image you posted, 'Behavior on
Application Exit or Session
Switch' at the bottom is set to 'Do not save session'; perhaps, though
you have created a new session, your session info was not saved into it?
You could change that to 'Ask user' to see if that helps.
I did that, and it changed things, although not really a help:
With "Do not save session" selected:
1. Open blank kate.
This has a sidebar with "Untitled" in it.
2. Change session configuration to: "Ask user".
3. Remove sidebar.
4. File | Quit
Asks me whether to save the session; click "Save".
---
5. Open blank kate.
No sidebar. Good. But...
6. Type some text.
7. File | Quit
Asks me whether to save the file.
I select yes, and give it a filename.
Asks me whether to save the session; click "Delete". Now that you know that the session is recording that,
you can change 'Ask
user' to 'Save session' (it really means 'Re-save session') and it
will
remember it forever. 'Load last-used session' and 'Save session' will
do
what you want.
OK, so, going back to the initial configuration, I execute:
1. Open blank kate.
This has a sidebar with "Untitled" in it.
2. Change session configuration to: "Ask user".
3. Remove sidebar.
4. File | Quit
Asks me whether to save the session; click "Save".
5. Open blank kate.
No sidebar. Good.
6. Change session configuration to "Save Session".
7. Check that session configuration says "Load last-used session". It does.
8. File | Quit
Kate immediately quits, with no questions.
9. Open blank kate.
This has a sidebar with "Untitled" in it.
So at what step did I do something different from what you think I should do?
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23 Sep
23 Sep
4:05 a.m.
On 2023-09-22 15:05:03 you wrote:
J Leslie Turriff via tde-users wrote on 9/22/23
13:34:
I think you have to, after removing the sidebar, set Sessions => Save As,
with a new name, e.g. 'NoSidebar' before doing File => Quit. Then that will
be the session loaded the next time, since you have 'Load last-used session'
active when you quit.
Leslie
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On 2023-09-19 15:38:26 you wrote:
??? I wanted to delete the new session that I was in, so that it wouldn't
get written to disk, so that when I next opened kate, it would be in the
same state as in state 5.
There are three session-related choices when I quit: Save, Delete, Cancel.
Cancel obviously isn't right, because that cancels the attempt to quit.
Save isn't right, because if I do that, the next time I open kate, it
remembers the text I type in 6, and also gives me the sidebar. So "delete"
was the only thing that made sense.
Feel free to tell me what I should have selected... but I've explicitly
tried both Save and Delete, and neither did the right thing.
J Leslie Turriff via tde-users wrote on 9/18/23
23:32:
But why did you want to delete the session which is remembering that you
don't want the sidebar to be displayed? Configuration of the Sessions feature in Kate
has always been
confusing (at least for you and me).
If you Click on Sessions => Select Session > how many sessions do you
see?
One (called "Unnamed").
In the image you posted, 'Behavior on
Application Exit or Session
Switch' at the bottom is set to 'Do not save session'; perhaps, though
you have created a new session, your session info was not saved into
it? You could change that to 'Ask user' to see if that helps.
I did that, and it changed things, although not really a help:
With "Do not save session" selected:
1. Open blank kate.
This has a sidebar with "Untitled" in it.
2. Change session configuration to: "Ask user".
3. Remove sidebar.
4. File | Quit
Asks me whether to save the session; click "Save".
---
5. Open blank kate.
No sidebar. Good. But...
6. Type some text.
7. File | Quit
Asks me whether to save the file.
I select yes, and give it a filename.
Asks me whether to save the session; click "Delete". Now that you know that the session is recording
that, you can change
'Ask user' to 'Save session' (it really means 'Re-save session')
and it
will remember it forever. 'Load last-used session' and 'Save session'
will do what you want.
OK, so, going back to the initial configuration, I execute:
1. Open blank kate.
This has a sidebar with "Untitled" in it.
2. Change session configuration to: "Ask user".
3. Remove sidebar.
4. File | Quit
Asks me whether to save the session; click "Save".
5. Open blank kate.
No sidebar. Good.
6. Change session configuration to "Save Session".
7. Check that session configuration says "Load last-used session". It does.
8. File | Quit
Kate immediately quits, with no questions.
9. Open blank kate.
This has a sidebar with "Untitled" in it.
So at what step did I do something different from what you think I should
do?
Doc
26 Sep
26 Sep
9:24 p.m.
J Leslie Turriff via tde-users wrote on 9/22/23 22:05:
I think you have to, after removing the sidebar, set Sessions => Save As,
with a new name, e.g. 'NoSidebar' before doing File => Quit. Then that will
be the session loaded the next time, since you have 'Load last-used session'
active when you quit.
1. Open blank kate.
This has a sidebar with "Untitled" in it.
2. Remove sidebar.
3. set Sessions => Save As
saves as "nosidebar"
4. File | Quit
5. Open blank kate.
No sidebar. Good.
6. Type some text.
7. Save as "testfile".
8. File Quit
9. Open blank kate
Side bar is present, with the word "testfile" in it.
Also, the editing area isn't blank; it contains the text of testfile.
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29 Sep
29 Sep
4:40 p.m.
On 2023-09-26 16:24:42 you wrote:
J Leslie Turriff via tde-users wrote on 9/22/23
22:05:
How very strange. I'm afraid I have no more ideas about this.
Leslie
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I think you have to, after removing the sidebar,
set Sessions => Save
As, with a new name, e.g. 'NoSidebar' before doing File => Quit. Then
that will be the session loaded the next time, since you have 'Load
last-used session' active when you quit.
1. Open blank kate.
This has a sidebar with "Untitled" in it.
2. Remove sidebar.
3. set Sessions => Save As
saves as "nosidebar"
4. File | Quit
5. Open blank kate.
No sidebar. Good.
6. Type some text.
7. Save as "testfile".
8. File Quit
9. Open blank kate
Side bar is present, with the word "testfile" in it.
Also, the editing area isn't blank; it contains the text of
testfile.
Doc
19 Sep
19 Sep
12:33 p.m.
On Tuesday 19 September 2023 00:10:16 D. R. Evans via tde-users wrote:
Lou Gogan via tde-users wrote on 9/14/23 14:30:
BUT which session did you open?? (see below)
All I can advise is that AFTER closing the
sidebar, MANUALLY save the
session (sessions, save) close Kate, then open it again. The sidebar
should remain closed.
At the "Sessions | Save" point, after closing the sidebar, I am prompted
for a session name, which suggests that I will no longer have just one
session.
But I gave it a name anyway. Then I closed kate. Then opened kate again.
And the sidebar was still present.
Doc
There is only 1 thing I can advise.
You need to read about Kate's sessions. They are in integral aspect of Kate.
Finally, open Kate, using the menu, choose the 'new' session which you named,
just to check if *that* session has the sidebar showing
Good luck!
Lou
8:57 p.m.
Lou Gogan via tde-users wrote on 9/19/23 06:33:
On Tuesday 19 September 2023 00:10:16 D. R. Evans via tde-users wrote:
Is that a rhetorical question? If not, I don't understand what you are asking.
There is only one session (the unnamed session), so that must be the session
that is opened.
If I execute "Sessions | Save As" and create a named session, then exit and
restart, there is still only the "Unnamed" session in the "Sessions |
Select
session" list.
Lou Gogan via tde-users wrote on 9/14/23 14:30:
BUT which session did you open?? (see below)
All I can advise is that AFTER closing the
sidebar, MANUALLY save the
session (sessions, save) close Kate, then open it again. The sidebar
should remain closed.
At the "Sessions | Save" point, after closing the sidebar, I am prompted
for a session name, which suggests that I will no longer have just one
session.
But I gave it a name anyway. Then I closed kate. Then opened kate again.
And the sidebar was still present. There is only 1 thing I can advise.
You need to read about Kate's sessions. They are in integral aspect of Kate.
Where do I do that? I've tried (and tried), and can't find anything that is
complete, unambiguous and correct.
Finally, open Kate, using the menu, choose the
'new' session which you named,
just to check if *that* session has the sidebar showing
I can't choose the new session; the only session in the "select sessions"
list
is still the "Unnamed" session.
In other words:
1. Open blank kate.
This has a sidebar with "Untitled" in it.
2. Remove sidebar.
3. Save session, giving it the name "Fred".
4. File | Quit.
5. Open blank kate.
This has a sidebar with "Untitled" in it.
6. Look at "Sessions | Select session"
There is only one entry, called "Unnamed"
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