to test some of the things offered here the last couple of days i just now tried on my testbed thinkpad laptop to upgrade from ubuntu-14.04 to 16.04 by changinf all the references in sources.list from "trusty" to "xenial." then did an apt-get dist-upgrade.
the result isn't pretty. in fact, it won't even boot, though it makes an heroic effort.
i figured that inasmuch as i'm going to have to do something fairly drastic now anyway, i'd switch to a current debian with tde -- having extra desktops around is just annoying. but looking on the liveCDs page i see ubuntu and PCLOS and some others, but no debian.
does anyone here know of current debian-tde live CDs anyplace?
thanks!
dep
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On Sunday 29 April 2018 14:14:25 dep wrote:
to test some of the things offered here the last couple of days i just now tried on my testbed thinkpad laptop to upgrade from ubuntu-14.04 to 16.04 by changinf all the references in sources.list from "trusty" to "xenial." then did an apt-get dist-upgrade.
the result isn't pretty. in fact, it won't even boot, though it makes an heroic effort.
i figured that inasmuch as i'm going to have to do something fairly drastic now anyway, i'd switch to a current debian with tde -- having extra desktops around is just annoying. but looking on the liveCDs page i see ubuntu and PCLOS and some others, but no debian.
does anyone here know of current debian-tde live CDs anyplace?
thanks!
dep
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Slavek posted a page with live CDs and DVDs, but I don't recall a Debian live version with TDE. There is a Devuan and Q40S with TDE, and maybe some others, but they are tricky to get up and running.
I install from Debian Jessie 8.8.0 live hybrid (with non-free network stuff & KDE desktop), then I add Trinity repositories later and install TDE.
Some others recommend network installation, and skip KDE altogether, but you will have to get them to reveal their tricks. This is no doubt the preferred method, as you can skip over any KDE items that might affect how your system runs.
In any case, Debian is a little tricky to get working due to how it handles sudo a little differently from Ubuntu. Basically, when I install Debian, I leave the root password blank on installation, and make my user password with sudo privileges like in Ubuntu. Later I change my sudoers file, and change the definitions for users and privileges. Otherwise, when you get Debian up and running, you will find that you cannot do anything with sudo privileges, even though you have entered the correct password again and again. In TDE, you want to be sure you install all the sudo packages for trinity and tde. After that, it will work pretty much like Ubuntu/Kubuntu.
Debian works better for me than any of the 'buntus ever did, but don't expect it to run just like Ubuntu or Kubuntu. It is just similar enough to seem familiar, and just different enough to make you want to pull out your hair.
Bill
On Sun, 29 Apr 2018 17:14:25 -0400 dep dep@drippingwithirony.com wrote:
to test some of the things offered here the last couple of days i just now tried on my testbed thinkpad laptop to upgrade from ubuntu-14.04 to 16.04 by changinf all the references in sources.list from "trusty" to "xenial." then did an apt-get dist-upgrade.
the result isn't pretty. in fact, it won't even boot, though it makes an heroic effort.
Well, you did the same thing you have already been warned not to do. NEVER use apt if you have ever installed any packages not from official distro repos. ONLY aptitude in interactive mode.
i figured that inasmuch as i'm going to have to do something fairly drastic now anyway, i'd switch to a current debian with tde -- having extra desktops around is just annoying. but looking on the liveCDs page i see ubuntu and PCLOS and some others, but no debian.
does anyone here know of current debian-tde live CDs anyplace?
On April 30, 2018 2:00 AM, deloptes deloptes@gmail.com wrote:
dep wrote:
then did an apt-get dist-upgrade.
Read the debian or ubuntu upgrade guide. It states there that you first do
apt-get (or apt) upgrade and then you do dist-upgrade. Many problems users
have because not reading or not following the user guides.
regards
which i did, of course, just didn't mention it (also entered the room, turned on the computer, etc.). my point was that the upgrade by changing the entries in sources.list didn't work for me in the upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04, even though it did when moving from 12.04 to 14.04. so i decided that because the system was toast anyway, rather than try to sort out a broken ubuntu i'd go ahead and upgrade to debian. and i hoped to find an install CD that contained debian and TDE. and i was given good instructions on how to do the install despite the lack of such a CD, so problem solved.
that's all.
dep
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