29 Apr
2018
29 Apr
'18
9:14 p.m.
to test some of the things offered here the last couple of days i just now tried on my
testbed thinkpad laptop to upgrade from ubuntu-14.04 to 16.04 by changinf all the
references in sources.list from "trusty" to "xenial." then did an
apt-get dist-upgrade.
the result isn't pretty. in fact, it won't even boot, though it makes an heroic
effort.
i figured that inasmuch as i'm going to have to do something fairly drastic now
anyway, i'd switch to a current debian with tde -- having extra desktops around is
just annoying. but looking on the liveCDs page i see ubuntu and PCLOS and some others, but
no debian.
does anyone here know of current debian-tde live CDs anyplace?
thanks!
dep
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30 Apr
30 Apr
12:14 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] tde-debian live/install cds?
On Sunday 29 April 2018 14:14:25 dep wrote:
to test some of the things offered here the last
couple of days i just now
tried on my testbed thinkpad laptop to upgrade from ubuntu-14.04 to 16.04
by changinf all the references in sources.list from "trusty" to
"xenial."
then did an apt-get dist-upgrade.
the result isn't pretty. in fact, it won't even boot, though it makes an
heroic effort.
i figured that inasmuch as i'm going to have to do something fairly drastic
now anyway, i'd switch to a current debian with tde -- having extra
desktops around is just annoying. but looking on the liveCDs page i see
ubuntu and PCLOS and some others, but no debian.
does anyone here know of current debian-tde live CDs anyplace?
thanks!
dep
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Slavek posted a page with live CDs and DVDs, but I don't recall a Debian live
version with TDE. There is a Devuan and Q40S with TDE, and maybe some others,
but they are tricky to get up and running.
I install from Debian Jessie 8.8.0 live hybrid (with non-free network stuff &
KDE desktop), then I add Trinity repositories later and install TDE.
Some others recommend network installation, and skip KDE altogether, but you
will have to get them to reveal their tricks. This is no doubt the preferred
method, as you can skip over any KDE items that might affect how your system
runs.
In any case, Debian is a little tricky to get working due to how it handles
sudo a little differently from Ubuntu. Basically, when I install Debian, I
leave the root password blank on installation, and make my user password with
sudo privileges like in Ubuntu. Later I change my sudoers file, and change
the definitions for users and privileges. Otherwise, when you get Debian up
and running, you will find that you cannot do anything with sudo privileges,
even though you have entered the correct password again and again. In TDE,
you want to be sure you install all the sudo packages for trinity and tde.
After that, it will work pretty much like Ubuntu/Kubuntu.
Debian works better for me than any of the 'buntus ever did, but don't expect
it to run just like Ubuntu or Kubuntu. It is just similar enough to seem
familiar, and just different enough to make you want to pull out your hair.
Bill
1:15 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] tde-debian live/install cds?
On Sun, 29 Apr 2018 17:14:25 -0400
dep <dep(a)drippingwithirony.com> wrote:
to test some of the things offered here the last
couple of days i just
now tried on my testbed thinkpad laptop to upgrade from ubuntu-14.04 to
16.04 by changinf all the references in sources.list from "trusty" to
"xenial." then did an apt-get dist-upgrade.
the result isn't pretty. in fact, it won't even boot, though it makes an
heroic effort.
Well, you did the same thing you have already been warned not to do. NEVER
use apt if you have ever installed any packages not from
official distro repos. ONLY aptitude in interactive mode.
i figured that inasmuch as i'm going to have to do something fairly
drastic now anyway, i'd switch to a current debian with tde -- having
extra desktops around is just annoying. but looking on the liveCDs page i
see ubuntu and PCLOS and some others, but no debian.
does anyone here know of current debian-tde live CDs anyplace?
--
Nick Koretsky (nick.koretsky(a)gmail.com)
11:49 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: tde-debian live/install cds?
On April 30, 2018 2:00 AM, deloptes <deloptes(a)gmail.com> wrote:
dep wrote:
which i did, of course, just didn't mention it (also entered the room, turned on the
computer, etc.). my point was that the upgrade by changing the entries in sources.list
didn't work for me in the upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04, even though it did when moving
from 12.04 to 14.04. so i decided that because the system was toast anyway, rather than
try to sort out a broken ubuntu i'd go ahead and upgrade to debian. and i hoped to
find an install CD that contained debian and TDE. and i was given good instructions on how
to do the install despite the lack of such a CD, so problem solved.
that's all.
dep
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then did an apt-get dist-upgrade.
Read the debian or ubuntu upgrade guide. It states there that you first do
apt-get (or apt) upgrade and then you do dist-upgrade. Many problems users
have because not reading or not following the user guides.
regards
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