Dear TDE list,
I installed the Crystalcursors mouse theme. In the past, e.g. in openSUSE 15.2, it worked well with TDE. However, in openSUSE 15.4 with TDE R14.1.0 I get a white arrow as expected for Crystalcursors, but for moving or resizing a window it falls back to the Adwaita default. I now realize that Crystalcursors is not an official trinity package, but probably from KDE3. My question is: Is there an official trinity Crystalcursors package or similar? If not, would it be possible to port the Crystalcursors mouse theme to trinity?
Thanks!
Gianluca
----------------------------------------------------- Gianluca Interlandi, PhD gianluca@u.washington.edu +1 (206) 685 4435 http://gianluca.today/
Department of Bioengineering University of Washington, Seattle WA U.S.A. -----------------------------------------------------
On 2023/08/13 03:11 AM, Gianluca Interlandi via tde-users wrote:
Dear TDE list,
I installed the Crystalcursors mouse theme. In the past, e.g. in openSUSE 15.2, it worked well with TDE. However, in openSUSE 15.4 with TDE R14.1.0 I get a white arrow as expected for Crystalcursors, but for moving or resizing a window it falls back to the Adwaita default. I now realize that Crystalcursors is not an official trinity package, but probably from KDE3. My question is: Is there an official trinity Crystalcursors package or similar? If not, would it be possible to port the Crystalcursors mouse theme to trinity?
Thanks!
Ciao Gianluca, I installed crystalcursor on debian and tested a few mouse pointer theme. They all seems to work fine, even for moving and resizing windows. Not sure why you see something different on your system, but the fact that it was working fine in 15.2 is probably a clue to some local reasons with 15.4.
Crystalcursor is a standard package, not TDE-specific. There is no reason nor benefit to make it a TDE package, since it does not depends on TQt or TDE stuff. It can already be used as is AFAICT. Correct me if I am wrong and there is something that should/need to be customized for specific DE.
Cheers Michele
On Mon, 14 Aug 2023, Michele Calgaro via tde-users wrote:
On 2023/08/13 03:11 AM, Gianluca Interlandi via tde-users wrote:
Dear TDE list,
I installed the Crystalcursors mouse theme. In the past, e.g. in openSUSE 15.2, it worked well with TDE. However, in openSUSE 15.4 with TDE R14.1.0 I get a white arrow as expected for Crystalcursors, but for moving or resizing a window it falls back to the Adwaita default. I now realize that Crystalcursors is not an official trinity package, but probably from KDE3. My question is: Is there an official trinity Crystalcursors package or similar? If not, would it be possible to port the Crystalcursors mouse theme to trinity?
Thanks!
Ciao Gianluca, I installed crystalcursor on debian and tested a few mouse pointer theme. They all seems to work fine, even for moving and resizing windows. Not sure why you see something different on your system, but the fact that it was working fine in 15.2 is probably a clue to some local reasons with 15.4.
Crystalcursor is a standard package, not TDE-specific. There is no reason nor benefit to make it a TDE package, since it does not depends on TQt or TDE stuff. It can already be used as is AFAICT. Correct me if I am wrong and there is something that should/need to be customized for specific DE.
Ciao Michele,
I wonder why it is not working as expected in openSUSE 15.4. I even created a guest account and it still has the same problem. After installing TDE (and logging into TDE once), I had accidentally logged in into plasma and then back into TDE. By creating a guest account I was able to figure out which gtk files were altered by the accidental login into plasma and revert them so that everything in my user account looks the same as in the guest account. But even in the guest account the cursor theme is not behving the way I expect it to. So could it be something specific to 15.4, like maybe a setting in some config file? Is there any way how I can track it down?
Thanks!
Gianluca
----------------------------------------------------- Gianluca Interlandi, PhD gianluca@u.washington.edu +1 (206) 685 4435 http://gianluca.today/
Department of Bioengineering University of Washington, Seattle WA U.S.A. -----------------------------------------------------
I wonder why it is not working as expected in openSUSE 15.4. I even created a guest account and it still has the same problem. After installing TDE (and logging into TDE once), I had accidentally logged in into plasma and then back into TDE. By creating a guest account I was able to figure out which gtk files were altered by the accidental login into plasma and revert them so that everything in my user account looks the same as in the guest account. But even in the guest account the cursor theme is not behving the way I expect it to. So could it be something specific to 15.4, like maybe a setting in some config file? Is there any way how I can track it down?
Ciao Gianluca, difficult question :-) Not sure why things don't work as you would expect in OpenSuSE 15.4. Maybe some mouse icons from the theme were lost/deleted/altered accidentally in your system? Or maybe crystalcursor for openSuSE is missing some files? I could be something else too. I guess one way you could try to troubleshoot this is to install Debian inside a VM, replicate your setup and then compare between the two systems. At least Debian trixie + TDE + crystalcursor seems to work fine, so you have a comparison term. Or maybe some other OpenSuSE users use crystalcursor and they could check whether they see the same issue?
Cheers Michele
I wonder why it is not working as expected in openSUSE 15.4.
Ciao Gianluca, difficult question :-) Not sure why things don't work as you would expect in OpenSuSE 15.4. Maybe some mouse icons from the theme were lost/deleted/altered accidentally in your system? Or maybe crystalcursor for openSuSE is missing some files? I could be something else too. I guess one way you could try to troubleshoot this is to install Debian inside a VM, replicate your setup and then compare between the two systems. At least Debian trixie + TDE + crystalcursor seems to work fine, so you have a comparison term. Or maybe some other OpenSuSE users use crystalcursor and they could check whether they see the same issue?
Ciao Michele,
I copied over the crystalwhite files from a openSUSE 15.2 installation where it is working correctly and it still reverts to Adwaita for the resizing and moving icons. So the problem may be somewhere else. It is not a big deal as I still get the crystalwhite cursor for all other mouse icons. I will post in the openSUSE forum.
On a separate note, it looks like Crystalcursors is no longer included in openSUSE 15.5. That is a bummer since it is my favorite mouse cursor theme:
https://software.opensuse.org/package/Crystalcursors
I guess you could install the one from openSUSE 15.4.
Best,
Gianluca
----------------------------------------------------- Gianluca Interlandi, PhD gianluca@u.washington.edu +1 (206) 685 4435 http://gianluca.today/
Department of Bioengineering University of Washington, Seattle WA U.S.A. -----------------------------------------------------
Ciao Gianluca
I copied over the crystalwhite files from a openSUSE 15.2 installation where it is working correctly and it still reverts to Adwaita for the resizing and moving icons. So the problem may be somewhere else. It is not a big deal as I still get the crystalwhite cursor for all other mouse icons. I will post in the openSUSE forum.
Ok, in any case it sounds like a weird one, since I would expect either all the icons to work or don't work, not just some. Also, there has been no changes in mouse cursor related themes in TDE, so this makes the behavior even more mysterious.
On a separate note, it looks like Crystalcursors is no longer included in openSUSE 15.5. That is a bummer since it is my favorite mouse cursor theme:
Of course if crystalcursor becomes unavailable in the future in the main distros, we can consider adding it to TDE, it will not be a big deal.
Cheers Michele
On Wed, 16 Aug 2023, Michele Calgaro via tde-users wrote:
Ok, in any case it sounds like a weird one, since I would expect either all the icons to work or don't work, not just some. Also, there has been no changes in mouse cursor related themes in TDE, so this makes the behavior even more mysterious.
There must be some sort of "fallback to default" when the corresponding icon of Crystalcursors does not work since it uses the Adwaita icon instead.
On a separate note, it looks like Crystalcursors is no longer included in openSUSE 15.5. That is a bummer since it is my favorite mouse cursor theme:
Of course if crystalcursor becomes unavailable in the future in the main distros, we can consider adding it to TDE, it will not be a big deal.
That would be a great idea!
Gianluca
----------------------------------------------------- Gianluca Interlandi, PhD gianluca@u.washington.edu +1 (206) 685 4435 http://gianluca.today/
Department of Bioengineering University of Washington, Seattle WA U.S.A. -----------------------------------------------------
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