12 Aug
2023
12 Aug
'23
6:11 p.m.
Dear TDE list,
I installed the Crystalcursors mouse theme. In the past, e.g. in openSUSE
15.2, it worked well with TDE. However, in openSUSE 15.4 with TDE R14.1.0
I get a white arrow as expected for Crystalcursors, but for moving or
resizing a window it falls back to the Adwaita default. I now realize that
Crystalcursors is not an official trinity package, but probably from KDE3.
My question is: Is there an official trinity Crystalcursors package or
similar? If not, would it be possible to port the Crystalcursors mouse
theme to trinity?
Thanks!
Gianluca
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Gianluca Interlandi, PhD gianluca(a)u.washington.edu
+1 (206) 685 4435
http://gianluca.today/
Department of Bioengineering
University of Washington, Seattle WA U.S.A.
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14 Aug
14 Aug
2:49 a.m.
On 2023/08/13 03:11 AM, Gianluca Interlandi via tde-users wrote:
Dear TDE list,
I installed the Crystalcursors mouse theme. In the past, e.g. in openSUSE 15.2, it worked
well with TDE. However, in
openSUSE 15.4 with TDE R14.1.0 I get a white arrow as expected for Crystalcursors, but
for moving or resizing a window
it falls back to the Adwaita default. I now realize that Crystalcursors is not an
official trinity package, but probably
from KDE3. My question is: Is there an official trinity Crystalcursors package or
similar? If not, would it be possible
to port the Crystalcursors mouse theme to trinity?
Thanks!
Ciao Gianluca,
I installed crystalcursor on debian and tested a few mouse pointer theme. They all seems
to work fine, even for moving
and resizing windows. Not sure why you see something different on your system, but the
fact that it was working fine in
15.2 is probably a clue to some local reasons with 15.4.
Crystalcursor is a standard package, not TDE-specific. There is no reason nor benefit to
make it a TDE package, since it
does not depends on TQt or TDE stuff. It can already be used as is AFAICT. Correct me if I
am wrong and there is
something that should/need to be customized for specific DE.
Cheers
Michele
4:30 p.m.
On Mon, 14 Aug 2023, Michele Calgaro via tde-users wrote:
On 2023/08/13 03:11 AM, Gianluca Interlandi via
tde-users wrote:
Ciao Michele,
I wonder why it is not working as expected in openSUSE 15.4. I even
created a guest account and it still has the same problem. After
installing TDE (and logging into TDE once), I had accidentally logged in
into plasma and then back into TDE. By creating a guest account I was able
to figure out which gtk files were altered by the accidental login into
plasma and revert them so that everything in my user account looks the
same as in the guest account. But even in the guest account the cursor
theme is not behving the way I expect it to. So could it be something
specific to 15.4, like maybe a setting in some config file? Is there any
way how I can track it down?
Thanks!
Gianluca
-----------------------------------------------------
Gianluca Interlandi, PhD gianluca(a)u.washington.edu
+1 (206) 685 4435
http://gianluca.today/
Department of Bioengineering
University of Washington, Seattle WA U.S.A.
-----------------------------------------------------
Dear TDE list,
I installed the Crystalcursors mouse theme. In the past, e.g. in openSUSE
15.2, it worked well with TDE. However, in openSUSE 15.4 with TDE R14.1.0 I
get a white arrow as expected for Crystalcursors, but for moving or
resizing a window it falls back to the Adwaita default. I now realize that
Crystalcursors is not an official trinity package, but probably from KDE3.
My question is: Is there an official trinity Crystalcursors package or
similar? If not, would it be possible to port the Crystalcursors mouse
theme to trinity?
Thanks!
Ciao Gianluca,
I installed crystalcursor on debian and tested a few mouse pointer theme.
They all seems to work fine, even for moving and resizing windows. Not sure
why you see something different on your system, but the fact that it was
working fine in 15.2 is probably a clue to some local reasons with 15.4.
Crystalcursor is a standard package, not TDE-specific. There is no reason nor
benefit to make it a TDE package, since it does not depends on TQt or TDE
stuff. It can already be used as is AFAICT. Correct me if I am wrong and
there is something that should/need to be customized for specific DE.
15 Aug
15 Aug
1:26 p.m.
I wonder why it is not working as expected in openSUSE
15.4. I even created a guest account and it still has the same
problem. After installing TDE (and logging into TDE once), I had accidentally logged in
into plasma and then back into
TDE. By creating a guest account I was able to figure out which gtk files were altered by
the accidental login into
plasma and revert them so that everything in my user account looks the same as in the
guest account. But even in the
guest account the cursor theme is not behving the way I expect it to. So could it be
something specific to 15.4, like
maybe a setting in some config file? Is there any way how I can track it down?
Ciao Gianluca,
difficult question :-) Not sure why things don't work as you would expect in OpenSuSE
15.4. Maybe some mouse icons from
the theme were lost/deleted/altered accidentally in your system? Or maybe crystalcursor
for openSuSE is missing some
files? I could be something else too.
I guess one way you could try to troubleshoot this is to install Debian inside a VM,
replicate your setup and then
compare between the two systems. At least Debian trixie + TDE + crystalcursor seems to
work fine, so you have a
comparison term.
Or maybe some other OpenSuSE users use crystalcursor and they could check whether they see
the same issue?
Cheers
Michele
11:13 p.m.
> I wonder why it is not working as expected in
openSUSE 15.4.
Ciao Gianluca,
difficult question :-) Not sure why things don't work as you would expect in
OpenSuSE 15.4. Maybe some mouse icons from the theme were
lost/deleted/altered accidentally in your system? Or maybe crystalcursor for
openSuSE is missing some files? I could be something else too.
I guess one way you could try to troubleshoot this is to install Debian
inside a VM, replicate your setup and then compare between the two systems.
At least Debian trixie + TDE + crystalcursor seems to work fine, so you have
a comparison term.
Or maybe some other OpenSuSE users use crystalcursor and they could check
whether they see the same issue?
Ciao Michele,
I copied over the crystalwhite files from a openSUSE 15.2 installation
where it is working correctly and it still reverts to Adwaita for the
resizing and moving icons. So the problem may be somewhere else. It is not
a big deal as I still get the crystalwhite cursor for all other mouse
icons. I will post in the openSUSE forum.
On a separate note, it looks like Crystalcursors is no longer included in
openSUSE 15.5. That is a bummer since it is my favorite mouse cursor
theme:
https://software.opensuse.org/package/Crystalcursors
I guess you could install the one from openSUSE 15.4.
Best,
Gianluca
-----------------------------------------------------
Gianluca Interlandi, PhD gianluca(a)u.washington.edu
+1 (206) 685 4435
http://gianluca.today/
Department of Bioengineering
University of Washington, Seattle WA U.S.A.
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16 Aug
16 Aug
1:41 a.m.
Ciao Gianluca
I copied over the crystalwhite files from a openSUSE
15.2 installation where it is working correctly and it still
reverts to Adwaita for the resizing and moving icons. So the problem may be somewhere
else. It is not a big deal as I
still get the crystalwhite cursor for all other mouse icons. I will post in the openSUSE
forum.
Ok, in any case it sounds like a weird one, since I would expect either all the icons to
work or don't work, not just
some. Also, there has been no changes in mouse cursor related themes in TDE, so this makes
the behavior even more
mysterious.
On a separate note, it looks like Crystalcursors is no longer included in openSUSE 15.5.
That is a bummer since it is my
favorite mouse cursor theme:
Of course if crystalcursor becomes unavailable in the future in the main distros, we can
consider adding it to TDE, it
will not be a big deal.
Cheers
Michele
2:51 a.m.
On Wed, 16 Aug 2023, Michele Calgaro via tde-users wrote:
That would be a great idea!
Gianluca
-----------------------------------------------------
Gianluca Interlandi, PhD gianluca(a)u.washington.edu
+1 (206) 685 4435
http://gianluca.today/
Department of Bioengineering
University of Washington, Seattle WA U.S.A.
-----------------------------------------------------
Ok, in any case it sounds like a weird one, since I
would expect either all
the icons to work or don't work, not just some. Also, there has been no
changes in mouse cursor related themes in TDE, so this makes the behavior
even more mysterious.
There must be some sort of "fallback to default" when the corresponding
icon of Crystalcursors does not work since it uses the Adwaita icon
instead.
On a separate
note, it looks like Crystalcursors is no longer included in
openSUSE 15.5. That is a bummer since it is my favorite mouse cursor theme:
Of course if crystalcursor becomes unavailable in the future in the main
distros, we can consider adding it to TDE, it will not be a big deal.
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