Tried upgrading directly from 8.04. Bah ha hah ha. Left me with a dead system. Good thing I backed up 8.04 beforehand. New approach: Install Ubuntu 9.10 freshly, thus bypassing kde4 entirely, then add Pearson repos. Initial 9.10 without kde fine so far. After installing kde3 all of a sudden terminal input became sluggish. after a keypress it took up to 5 seconds before something happened. Not rebooted yet. Copied old .kde from other partition to .kde3. After reboot: keyboard problem stays, DVB-T via Terratec Cinergy T2 not working. Google. Problem with that Cinergy. Plucked it, keyboard returns to normal. So this is NOT a kde3 problem, seems this just rolled in with another upgrade. Yeah well, now that Shuttleworth said he's had it *buntu will be going downhill I guess... Back on topic. KDE won't even start. /home/dexter now belongs to root:root for reasons beyond me - *that* now seems to be a kde3 thing indeed. Fixed permissions manually. Kopete lost theme settings. Minor casualty. KMail works, no german i18n tho, GPG tested partially, seems to work (hope this still stands when I press the send key....), filters work. Manually added KNewsTicker (one of the main reasons apart from that bloody Phonon thingy why I don't want to switch to KDE4) Konqueror: no Baghira! I can bear with the theme, actually don't use it anymore, but the Baghira sidebar in Konq is one of the more useful additions. I want that back! Help! Gonna reboot now and see if that recompiled v4l drivers do any good to the Cinergy problem. -- -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.12 GCS d--(+)@ s-:+ a C++++ UL++ P+>++ L+++>++++ E-- W++ N o? K- w--(---) !O M+ V- PS+ PE Y++ PGP t++(---)@ 5 X+(++) R+(++) tv--(+)@ b++(+++) DI+++ D- G++ e* h>++ r* y? ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------