6 Nov
2016
6 Nov
'16
9:25 a.m.
On Sunday 06 of November 2016 02:00:32 James D. Freels wrote:
Hello TDE users:
I updated my Debian-8 (jessie) system today as usual. However, several
TDE packages at version 14.0.4 were included in the update.
Unfortunately, it was a partial upgrade, so it is rendered my system as
only partially usable with TDE. For example, I do not have tdm-trinity
or kicker-trinity and I cannot restore them since the TDE system is
basically broken because of this partial upgrade.
What is going on and how can I fix this ?
James D. Freels
freelsjd(a)gmail.com
You've probably hit to the middle of upload the new release. Try to make
the apt-get update and upgrade again.
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Slávek
6 Nov
6 Nov
9:30 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: partial update to 14.0.4
You don't upload the packages files (the ones apt reads to know what is
available) at the same time as the actual packages do you?
On 6 November 2016 at 20:25, Slávek Banko <slavek.banko(a)axis.cz> wrote:
On Sunday 06 of November 2016 02:00:32 James D. Freels
wrote:
Hello TDE users:
I updated my Debian-8 (jessie) system today as usual. However, several
TDE packages at version 14.0.4 were included in the update.
Unfortunately, it was a partial upgrade, so it is rendered my system as
only partially usable with TDE. For example, I do not have tdm-trinity
or kicker-trinity and I cannot restore them since the TDE system is
basically broken because of this partial upgrade.
What is going on and how can I fix this ?
James D. Freels
freelsjd(a)gmail.com
You've probably hit to the middle of upload the new release. Try to make
the apt-get update and upgrade again.
--
Slávek
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9:55 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: partial update to 14.0.4
On Sunday 06 of November 2016 10:30:49 Michael . wrote:
You don't upload the packages files (the ones apt
reads to know what is
available) at the same time as the actual packages do you?
The official repository is maintained in the QuickBuild (Launchpad), where
during copying packages, which takes some time, there is also publish apt
lists, which takes place gradually. Therefore it may happen that during
the release of new versions the repository may be partially inconsistent
for a while.
By the way, in former times, it was necessary to wait for synchronization
packages to the mirrors. It could take many days to weeks. With the new
redirector and the cache on VPS this waiting is no longer necessary.
Cheers
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Slávek
11:30 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: partial update to 14.0.4
On Sun November 6 2016 01:55:15 Slávek Banko wrote:
The official repository is maintained in the
QuickBuild (Launchpad), where
during copying packages, which takes some time, there is also publish apt
lists, which takes place gradually. Therefore it may happen that during
the release of new versions the repository may be partially inconsistent
for a while.
I thought this was already solved. New packages need to be in place before
they are referenced in apt lists, and old packages must not be deleted
until a safe amount of time has passed since they were last referenced by
any apt lists.
Surely the redirector isn't sending people to mirrors which have the wrong
version of apt lists?
--Mike
7:04 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: partial update to 14.0.4
On Sunday 06 of November 2016 12:30:34 Mike Bird wrote:
On Sun November 6 2016 01:55:15 Slávek Banko wrote:
The problem was not in inconsistency between apt lists and packages. Copying
packages (1624 source packages, 19557 binary) took about 3 hours. During that
time, apt lists were gradually updated. Therefore, during that time, some
packages was already 14.0.4, while some was still 14.0.3.
Thanks to pre-cached content (only amd64 and i386) on VPS, newest apt lists
are now only on VPS == on redirector. Synchronization of mirrors is just at
beginning. Therefore redirector now serves apt lists and packages from the
cache on VPS. Once the mirrors will be updated, then redirector will again
redirect users to a mirrors.
--
Slávek
The official repository is maintained in the
QuickBuild (Launchpad),
where during copying packages, which takes some time, there is also
publish apt lists, which takes place gradually. Therefore it may happen
that during the release of new versions the repository may be partially
inconsistent for a while.
I thought this was already solved. New packages need to be in place before
they are referenced in apt lists, and old packages must not be deleted
until a safe amount of time has passed since they were last referenced by
any apt lists.
Surely the redirector isn't sending people to mirrors which have the wrong
version of apt lists?
--Mike
8:45 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: partial update to 14.0.4
Maybe you should investigate Debian's system where primary mirrors accept a
"push" from the central server and the packages are uploaded and then the
lists files are uploaded once all the packages have syncronised. Doing it
that way would stop the inconvenience to users.
On 7 November 2016 at 06:04, Slávek Banko <slavek.banko(a)axis.cz> wrote:
On Sunday 06 of November 2016 12:30:34 Mike Bird
wrote:
On Sun November 6 2016 01:55:15 Slávek Banko
wrote:
before
The official repository is maintained in the
QuickBuild (Launchpad),
where during copying packages, which takes some time, there is also
publish apt lists, which takes place gradually. Therefore it may happen
that during the release of new versions the repository may be partially
inconsistent for a while.
I thought this was already solved. New packages need to be in place they are referenced in apt lists, and old
packages must not be deleted
until a safe amount of time has passed since they were last referenced by
any apt lists.
Surely the redirector isn't sending people to mirrors which have the
wrong
version of apt lists?
--Mike
The problem was not in inconsistency between apt lists and packages.
Copying
packages (1624 source packages, 19557 binary) took about 3 hours. During
that
time, apt lists were gradually updated. Therefore, during that time, some
packages was already 14.0.4, while some was still 14.0.3.
Thanks to pre-cached content (only amd64 and i386) on VPS, newest apt lists
are now only on VPS == on redirector. Synchronization of mirrors is just at
beginning. Therefore redirector now serves apt lists and packages from the
cache on VPS. Once the mirrors will be updated, then redirector will again
redirect users to a mirrors.
--
Slávek
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