What part of settings provides control over $SUBJECT? I have panel and desktop icons acceptably sized (very much bigger than default), but can't find anything that works for those in the titlebar (aka window decorations minimize, maximize, close) no matter which theming is applied. Places tried:
1-appearance & themes -> icons -> advanced -> size (a logical place to try, but which lacks a "titlebar" selection, and in which several selections offer no option to change size at all) 2-appearance & themes -> theme manager (tried in Keramik, Plastik and KDE_Classic) 3-appearance & themes -> window decorations -> buttons
Surely there must be a way to enlarge titlebar buttons, but how?
On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 03:09:42 -0500 Felix Miata mrmazda@earthlink.net wrote:
What part of settings provides control over $SUBJECT? I have panel and desktop icons acceptably sized (very much bigger than default), but can't find anything that works for those in the titlebar (aka window decorations minimize, maximize, close) no matter which theming is applied. Places tried:
1-appearance & themes -> icons -> advanced -> size (a logical place to try, but which lacks a "titlebar" selection, and in which several selections offer no option to change size at all) 2-appearance & themes -> theme manager (tried in Keramik, Plastik and KDE_Classic) 3-appearance & themes -> window decorations -> buttons
Surely there must be a way to enlarge titlebar buttons, but how?
It isn't a general option, but there are a couple of specific window decoration sets that will let you resize those buttons. Go to appearance & themes -> window decorations and select either "Glow" or "Smooth Blend". Note that in order to adjust the button size upward in the latter, you must first adjust the size of the titlebar itself, as it caps the buttons at titlebar - 4 px.
E. Liddell
E. Liddell composed on 2017-01-10 07:17 (UTC-0500):
On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 03:09:42 -0500 Felix Miata wrote:
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Surely there must be a way to enlarge titlebar buttons, but how?
It isn't a general option, but there are a couple of specific window decoration sets that will let you resize those buttons. Go to appearance & themes -> window decorations and select either "Glow" or "Smooth Blend". Note that in order to adjust the button size upward in the latter, you must first adjust the size of the titlebar itself, as it caps the buttons at titlebar - 4 px.
In openSUSE 13.2 and 42.1 and in Jessie on my own host gx780, the offerings are:
B II KDE 2 Keramik Laptop Modern System Plastik Quartz Redmond Web
What package(s) provide Glow and Smooth Blend?
On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 00:02:47 -0500 Felix Miata mrmazda@earthlink.net wrote:
E. Liddell composed on 2017-01-10 07:17 (UTC-0500):
On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 03:09:42 -0500 Felix Miata wrote:
...
Surely there must be a way to enlarge titlebar buttons, but how?
It isn't a general option, but there are a couple of specific window decoration sets that will let you resize those buttons. Go to appearance & themes -> window decorations and select either "Glow" or "Smooth Blend". Note that in order to adjust the button size upward in the latter, you must first adjust the size of the titlebar itself, as it caps the buttons at titlebar - 4 px.
In openSUSE 13.2 and 42.1 and in Jessie on my own host gx780, the offerings are:
B II KDE 2 Keramik Laptop Modern System Plastik Quartz Redmond Web
What package(s) provide Glow and Smooth Blend?
twin-styles under tdeartwork, from the looks of it. Not sure what the exact package names for you would be (I'm on Gentoo).
E. Liddell
E. Liddell composed on 2017-01-11 07:01 (UTC-0500):
On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 00:02:47 -0500 Felix Miata wrote:
E. Liddell composed on 2017-01-10 07:17 (UTC-0500):
On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 03:09:42 -0500 Felix Miata wrote:
...
Surely there must be a way to enlarge titlebar buttons, but how?
It isn't a general option, but there are a couple of specific window decoration sets that will let you resize those buttons. Go to appearance & themes -> window decorations and select either "Glow" or "Smooth Blend". Note that in order to adjust the button size upward in the latter, you must first adjust the size of the titlebar itself, as it caps the buttons at titlebar - 4 px.
In openSUSE 13.2 and 42.1 and in Jessie on my own host gx780, the offerings are:
B II KDE 2 Keramik Laptop Modern System Plastik Quartz Redmond Web
What package(s) provide Glow and Smooth Blend?
twin-styles under tdeartwork, from the looks of it. Not sure what the exact package names for you would be (I'm on Gentoo).
I tried on a *bunutu installation. Those were missing there too, so I installed these packages:
tdeartwork-style-trinity tdeartwork-theme-icon-trinity tdeartwork-theme-window-trinity
and then was able in Window Decorations to get bigger icons using Smooth Blend. :-)
Unfortunately, in both Glow and Smooth Blend, those icons provide almost no contrast with the titlebar's background color, which virtually eliminates any advantage over the tiny Plastik defaults' better foreground color and thus contrast. :-(
On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 04:19:55 -0500 Felix Miata mrmazda@earthlink.net wrote:
E. Liddell composed on 2017-01-11 07:01 (UTC-0500):
On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 00:02:47 -0500 Felix Miata wrote:
E. Liddell composed on 2017-01-10 07:17 (UTC-0500):
On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 03:09:42 -0500 Felix Miata wrote:
...
Surely there must be a way to enlarge titlebar buttons, but how?
It isn't a general option, but there are a couple of specific window decoration sets that will let you resize those buttons. Go to appearance & themes -> window decorations and select either "Glow" or "Smooth Blend". Note that in order to adjust the button size upward in the latter, you must first adjust the size of the titlebar itself, as it caps the buttons at titlebar - 4 px.
In openSUSE 13.2 and 42.1 and in Jessie on my own host gx780, the offerings are:
B II KDE 2 Keramik Laptop Modern System Plastik Quartz Redmond Web
What package(s) provide Glow and Smooth Blend?
twin-styles under tdeartwork, from the looks of it. Not sure what the exact package names for you would be (I'm on Gentoo).
I tried on a *bunutu installation. Those were missing there too, so I installed these packages:
tdeartwork-style-trinity tdeartwork-theme-icon-trinity tdeartwork-theme-window-trinity
and then was able in Window Decorations to get bigger icons using Smooth Blend. :-)
Unfortunately, in both Glow and Smooth Blend, those icons provide almost no contrast with the titlebar's background color, which virtually eliminates any advantage over the tiny Plastik defaults' better foreground color and thus contrast. :-(
Depending on how much work you want to put into this, you may be able to edit the Glow buttons--they're just .png images located under share/apps/twin/glow-themes . Actually, by editing the included .theme files, you may be able to swap in images of your choice at sizes of your choice for that theme.
Or maybe hit it from the other end and change the titlebar colour to something that provides better contrast?
E. Liddell
Felix Miata wrote:
What part of settings provides control over $SUBJECT? I have panel and desktop icons acceptably sized (very much bigger than default), but can't find anything that works for those in the titlebar (aka window decorations minimize, maximize, close) no matter which theming is applied. Places tried:
1-appearance & themes -> icons -> advanced -> size (a logical place to try, but which lacks a "titlebar" selection, and in which several selections offer no option to change size at all) 2-appearance & themes -> theme manager (tried in Keramik, Plastik and KDE_Classic) 3-appearance & themes -> window decorations -> buttons
Surely there must be a way to enlarge titlebar buttons, but how?
In my case setting DPI to 96 helps. You can try 120 if 96 is too small.
regards
deloptes composed on 2017-01-10 19:59 (UTC+0100):
Felix Miata wrote:
Surely there must be a way to enlarge titlebar buttons, but how?
In my case setting DPI to 96 helps. You can try 120 if 96 is too small.
When I wrote OP they were still too small @144 DPI (IIRC, possibly @120, definitely not 96). We have the fonts set to 14. It is not my computer that caused me to write thread, but a nearly blind friend who lives 30+ minutes away. I do what testing I can here on one of my own before going there to try things with his 42" 1920x1080 TV used for a PC display for both openSUSE 42.1 and Stretch.
Felix Miata wrote:
deloptes composed on 2017-01-10 19:59 (UTC+0100):
Felix Miata wrote:
Surely there must be a way to enlarge titlebar buttons, but how?
In my case setting DPI to 96 helps. You can try 120 if 96 is too small.
When I wrote OP they were still too small @144 DPI (IIRC, possibly @120, definitely not 96). We have the fonts set to 14. It is not my computer that caused me to write thread, but a nearly blind friend who lives 30+ minutes away. I do what testing I can here on one of my own before going there to try things with his 42" 1920x1080 TV used for a PC display for both openSUSE 42.1 and Stretch.
there is a reason why the one is called monitor and the other TV, but anyway, I do not have solution and experience in such situation to advise.
Just out of curiosity, what if you use lower resolution - on the big screen it will give you bigger details.
regards
deloptes composed on 2017-01-11 01:06 (UTC+0100):
there is a reason why the one is called monitor and the other TV, but anyway, I do not have solution and experience in such situation to advise.
Just out of curiosity, what if you use lower resolution - on the big screen it will give you bigger details.
He tried that for quite some time, but was repeatedly frustrated by windows big enough to fit everything in them not fitting into the available screen space, so we switched to using native resolution along with approximately 40% bigger virtual desktop space (called panning in Xorg), and less extreme logical DPI, which are less than ideal, but considerably easier for him to work with.
On Wednesday 11 January 2017 00:06:06 deloptes wrote:
Just out of curiosity, what if you use lower resolution - on the big screen it will give you bigger details.
Speaking purely personally, and I cannot speak for Felix's friend, my sight problem means that, among other problems, things are blurred. Making them bigger, but more blurred, is generally not helpful. It depends how small they are in the first place! Bigger, with *sharper* edges (i.e. more pixels), now that helps.
Lisi
On 2017-01-10 02:09:42 Felix Miata wrote:
What part of settings provides control over $SUBJECT? I have panel and desktop icons acceptably sized (very much bigger than default), but can't find anything that works for those in the titlebar (aka window decorations minimize, maximize, close) no matter which theming is applied. Places tried:
1-appearance & themes -> icons -> advanced -> size (a logical place to try, but which lacks a "titlebar" selection, and in which several selections offer no option to change size at all) 2-appearance & themes -> theme manager (tried in Keramik, Plastik and KDE_Classic) 3-appearance & themes -> window decorations -> buttons
Surely there must be a way to enlarge titlebar buttons, but how?
You might take a look at Control Center -> Appearance & Themes -> Icons, Advanced tab. The sizes of Some icons can be adjusted there.
Leslie Turriff composed on 2017-01-10 21:07 (UTC-0600):
Felix Miata wrote:
What part of settings provides control over $SUBJECT? I have panel and desktop icons acceptably sized (very much bigger than default), but can't find anything that works for those in the titlebar (aka window decorations minimize, maximize, close) no matter which theming is applied. Places tried:
1-appearance & themes -> icons -> advanced -> size (a logical place to try, but which lacks a "titlebar" selection, and in which several selections offer no option to change size at all) 2-appearance & themes -> theme manager (tried in Keramik, Plastik and KDE_Classic) 3-appearance & themes -> window decorations -> buttons
Surely there must be a way to enlarge titlebar buttons, but how?
You might take a look at Control Center -> Appearance & Themes -> Icons, Advanced tab. The sizes of Some icons can be adjusted there.
That's #1 in the above list from OP. Anyplace else to try?-- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)
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