10 Jan
2017
10 Jan
'17
8:09 a.m.
What part of settings provides control over $SUBJECT? I have panel and desktop
icons acceptably sized (very much bigger than default), but can't find anything
that works for those in the titlebar (aka window decorations minimize, maximize,
close) no matter which theming is applied. Places tried:
1-appearance & themes -> icons -> advanced -> size (a logical place to try,
but
which lacks a "titlebar" selection, and in which several selections offer no
option to change size at all)
2-appearance & themes -> theme manager (tried in Keramik, Plastik and KDE_Classic)
3-appearance & themes -> window decorations -> buttons
Surely there must be a way to enlarge titlebar buttons, but how?
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10 Jan
10 Jan
12:17 p.m.
On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 03:09:42 -0500
Felix Miata <mrmazda(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
What part of settings provides control over $SUBJECT?
I have panel and desktop
icons acceptably sized (very much bigger than default), but can't find anything
that works for those in the titlebar (aka window decorations minimize, maximize,
close) no matter which theming is applied. Places tried:
1-appearance & themes -> icons -> advanced -> size (a logical place to try,
but
which lacks a "titlebar" selection, and in which several selections offer no
option to change size at all)
2-appearance & themes -> theme manager (tried in Keramik, Plastik and
KDE_Classic)
3-appearance & themes -> window decorations -> buttons
Surely there must be a way to enlarge titlebar buttons, but how?
It isn't a general option, but there are a couple of specific window decoration sets
that will let
you resize those buttons. Go to appearance & themes -> window decorations and
select
either "Glow" or "Smooth Blend". Note that in order to adjust the
button size upward in the
latter, you must first adjust the size of the titlebar itself, as it caps the buttons at
titlebar - 4 px.
E. Liddell
11 Jan
11 Jan
5:02 a.m.
E. Liddell composed on 2017-01-10 07:17 (UTC-0500):
On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 03:09:42 -0500 Felix Miata wrote:
...
> Surely there must be a way to enlarge titlebar
buttons, but how?
It isn't a general option, but there are a couple
of specific window decoration sets that will let
you resize those buttons. Go to appearance & themes -> window decorations and
select
either "Glow" or "Smooth Blend". Note that in order to adjust the
button size upward in the
latter, you must first adjust the size of the titlebar itself, as it caps the buttons at
titlebar - 4 px.
In openSUSE 13.2 and 42.1 and in Jessie on my own host gx780, the offerings are:
B II
KDE 2
Keramik
Laptop
Modern System
Plastik
Quartz
Redmond
Web
What package(s) provide Glow and Smooth Blend?
--
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words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)
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12:01 p.m.
On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 00:02:47 -0500
Felix Miata <mrmazda(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
E. Liddell composed on 2017-01-10 07:17 (UTC-0500):
twin-styles under tdeartwork, from the looks of it. Not sure what the exact package
names for you would be (I'm on Gentoo).
E. Liddell
On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 03:09:42 -0500 Felix Miata
wrote:
...
> Surely there must be a way to enlarge
titlebar buttons, but how?
It isn't a general option, but there are a
couple of specific window decoration sets that will let
you resize those buttons. Go to appearance & themes -> window decorations and
select
either "Glow" or "Smooth Blend". Note that in order to adjust the
button size upward in the
latter, you must first adjust the size of the titlebar itself, as it caps the buttons at
titlebar - 4 px.
In openSUSE 13.2 and 42.1 and in Jessie on my own host gx780, the offerings are:
B II
KDE 2
Keramik
Laptop
Modern System
Plastik
Quartz
Redmond
Web
What package(s) provide Glow and Smooth Blend?
12 Jan
12 Jan
9:19 a.m.
E. Liddell composed on 2017-01-11 07:01 (UTC-0500):
On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 00:02:47 -0500 Felix Miata wrote:
> E. Liddell composed on 2017-01-10 07:17
(UTC-0500):
>> On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 03:09:42 -0500 Felix Miata
wrote:
> ...
>>> Surely there must be a way to enlarge titlebar buttons, but how?
>> It isn't a general option, but there are a
couple of specific window decoration sets that will let
>> you resize those buttons. Go to appearance & themes -> window
decorations and select
>> either "Glow" or "Smooth Blend". Note that in order to
adjust the button size upward in the
>> latter, you must first adjust the size of the titlebar itself, as it caps the
buttons at titlebar - 4 px.
> In openSUSE 13.2 and 42.1 and in Jessie on my own
host gx780, the offerings are:
> B II
> KDE 2
> Keramik
> Laptop
> Modern System
> Plastik
> Quartz
> Redmond
> Web
> What package(s) provide Glow and Smooth Blend?
twin-styles under tdeartwork, from the looks of it.
Not sure what the exact package
names for you would be (I'm on Gentoo).
I tried on a *bunutu installation. Those were missing there too, so I installed
these packages:
tdeartwork-style-trinity
tdeartwork-theme-icon-trinity
tdeartwork-theme-window-trinity
and then was able in Window Decorations to get bigger icons using Smooth Blend. :-)
Unfortunately, in both Glow and Smooth Blend, those icons provide almost no
contrast with the titlebar's background color, which virtually eliminates any
advantage over the tiny Plastik defaults' better foreground color and thus
contrast. :-(
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words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)
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12:50 p.m.
On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 04:19:55 -0500
Felix Miata <mrmazda(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
E. Liddell composed on 2017-01-11 07:01 (UTC-0500):
Depending on how much work you want to put into this, you may be able to edit the
Glow buttons--they're just .png images located under share/apps/twin/glow-themes .
Actually, by editing the included .theme files, you may be able to swap in images of
your choice at sizes of your choice for that theme.
Or maybe hit it from the other end and change the titlebar colour to something that
provides better contrast?
E. Liddell
On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 00:02:47 -0500 Felix Miata
wrote:
> E. Liddell composed on 2017-01-10 07:17
(UTC-0500):
>> On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 03:09:42 -0500 Felix
Miata wrote:
> ...
>>> Surely there must be a way to enlarge titlebar buttons, but how?
>> It isn't a general option, but there
are a couple of specific window decoration sets that will let
>> you resize those buttons. Go to appearance & themes -> window
decorations and select
>> either "Glow" or "Smooth Blend". Note that in order to
adjust the button size upward in the
>> latter, you must first adjust the size of the titlebar itself, as it caps the
buttons at titlebar - 4 px.
> In openSUSE 13.2 and 42.1 and in Jessie on my
own host gx780, the offerings are:
> B II
> KDE 2
> Keramik
> Laptop
> Modern System
> Plastik
> Quartz
> Redmond
> Web
> What package(s) provide Glow and Smooth
Blend?
twin-styles under tdeartwork, from the looks of
it. Not sure what the exact package
names for you would be (I'm on Gentoo).
I tried on a *bunutu installation. Those were missing there too, so I installed
these packages:
tdeartwork-style-trinity
tdeartwork-theme-icon-trinity
tdeartwork-theme-window-trinity
and then was able in Window Decorations to get bigger icons using Smooth Blend. :-)
Unfortunately, in both Glow and Smooth Blend, those icons provide almost no
contrast with the titlebar's background color, which virtually eliminates any
advantage over the tiny Plastik defaults' better foreground color and thus
contrast. :-( 
10 Jan
10 Jan
6:59 p.m.
New subject: 14.0.4 titlebar icon/button sizes too small
Felix Miata wrote:
What part of settings provides control over $SUBJECT?
I have panel and
desktop icons acceptably sized (very much bigger than default), but can't
find anything that works for those in the titlebar (aka window decorations
minimize, maximize, close) no matter which theming is applied. Places
tried:
1-appearance & themes -> icons -> advanced -> size (a logical place to
try, but which lacks a "titlebar" selection, and in which several
selections offer no option to change size at all)
2-appearance & themes -> theme manager (tried in Keramik, Plastik and
KDE_Classic) 3-appearance & themes -> window decorations -> buttons
Surely there must be a way to enlarge titlebar buttons, but how?
In my case setting DPI to 96 helps. You can try 120 if 96 is too small.
regards
10:49 p.m.
deloptes composed on 2017-01-10 19:59 (UTC+0100):
Felix Miata wrote:
> Surely there must be a way to enlarge titlebar
buttons, but how?
In my case setting DPI to 96 helps. You can try 120 if
96 is too small.
When I wrote OP they were still too small @144 DPI (IIRC, possibly @120,
definitely not 96). We have the fonts set to 14. It is not my computer that
caused me to write thread, but a nearly blind friend who lives 30+ minutes away.
I do what testing I can here on one of my own before going there to try things
with his 42" 1920x1080 TV used for a PC display for both openSUSE 42.1 and Stretch.
--
"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)
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11 Jan
11 Jan
12:06 a.m.
New subject: 14.0.4 titlebar icon/button sizes too small
Felix Miata wrote:
deloptes composed on 2017-01-10 19:59 (UTC+0100):
there is a reason why the one is called monitor and the other TV, but
anyway, I do not have solution and experience in such situation to advise.
Just out of curiosity, what if you use lower resolution - on the big screen
it will give you bigger details.
regards
Felix Miata wrote:
> Surely there must be a way to enlarge
titlebar buttons, but how?
In my case setting DPI to 96 helps. You can try
120 if 96 is too small.
When I wrote OP they were still too small @144 DPI (IIRC, possibly @120,
definitely not 96). We have the fonts set to 14. It is not my computer
that caused me to write thread, but a nearly blind friend who lives 30+
minutes away. I do what testing I can here on one of my own before going
there to try things with his 42" 1920x1080 TV used for a PC display for
both openSUSE 42.1 and Stretch.
1:08 a.m.
deloptes composed on 2017-01-11 01:06 (UTC+0100):
there is a reason why the one is called monitor and
the other TV, but
anyway, I do not have solution and experience in such situation to advise.
Just out of curiosity, what if you use lower
resolution - on the big screen
it will give you bigger details.
He tried that for quite some time, but was repeatedly frustrated by windows big
enough to fit everything in them not fitting into the available screen space, so
we switched to using native resolution along with approximately 40% bigger
virtual desktop space (called panning in Xorg), and less extreme logical DPI,
which are less than ideal, but considerably easier for him to work with.
--
"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)
Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!
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10:49 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-users] Re: 14.0.4 titlebar icon/button sizes too small
On Wednesday 11 January 2017 00:06:06 deloptes wrote:
Just out of curiosity, what if you use lower
resolution - on the big screen
it will give you bigger details.
Speaking purely personally, and I cannot speak for Felix's friend, my sight
problem means that, among other problems, things are blurred. Making them
bigger, but more blurred, is generally not helpful. It depends how small
they are in the first place! Bigger, with *sharper* edges (i.e. more
pixels), now that helps.
Lisi
3:07 a.m.
On 2017-01-10 02:09:42 Felix Miata wrote:
What part of settings provides control over $SUBJECT?
I have panel and
desktop icons acceptably sized (very much bigger than default), but can't
find anything that works for those in the titlebar (aka window decorations
minimize, maximize, close) no matter which theming is applied. Places
tried:
1-appearance & themes -> icons -> advanced -> size (a logical place to try,
but which lacks a "titlebar" selection, and in which several selections
offer no option to change size at all)
2-appearance & themes -> theme manager (tried in Keramik, Plastik and
KDE_Classic) 3-appearance & themes -> window decorations -> buttons
Surely there must be a way to enlarge titlebar buttons, but how?
You might take a
look at Control Center -> Appearance & Themes -> Icons,
Advanced tab. The sizes of Some icons can be adjusted there.
4:30 a.m.
Leslie Turriff composed on 2017-01-10 21:07 (UTC-0600):
Felix Miata wrote:
> What part of settings provides control over
$SUBJECT? I have panel and
> desktop icons acceptably sized (very much bigger than default), but can't
> find anything that works for those in the titlebar (aka window decorations
> minimize, maximize, close) no matter which theming is applied. Places
> tried:
> 1-appearance & themes -> icons ->
advanced -> size (a logical place to try,
> but which lacks a "titlebar" selection, and in which several selections
> offer no option to change size at all)
> 2-appearance & themes -> theme manager (tried in Keramik, Plastik and
> KDE_Classic) 3-appearance & themes -> window decorations -> buttons
> Surely there must be a way to enlarge titlebar
buttons, but how?
You might take a look at Control Center ->
Appearance & Themes -> Icons,
Advanced tab. The sizes of Some icons can be adjusted there.
That's #1 in the above list from OP. Anyplace else to try?--
"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)
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