Hello,
In my "/home/andre" I have these 3 folders :
Téléchargements Téléchargements
Vid©léos Vidéos
ModÚles Modèles
If I delete Téléchargements, Vid©léos and ModÚles, at the next boot, they are automatically recreated. How to avoid this recreation ?
localectl status System Locale: LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 VC Keymap: (unset) X11 Layout: fr X11 Model: pc105 X11 Variant: latin9 In console mode the accented characters cannot be displayed, as é, à, è, ù...
Thanks, Cheers, André
On Sunday 21 May 2023 06:59:34 ajh-valmer via tde-users wrote:
Hello,
In my "/home/andre" I have these 3 folders :
Téléchargements T�l�chargements
Vid�léos Vid�os
Modèles Mod�les
If I delete Téléchargements, Vid�léos and Modèles, at the next boot, they are automatically recreated. How to avoid this recreation ?
localectl status System Locale: LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 VC Keymap: (unset) X11 Layout: fr X11 Model: pc105 X11 Variant: latin9 In console mode the accented characters cannot be displayed, as �, �, �, �...
Thanks, Cheers, Andr�
I believe that your issue here is not "locales" but rather "paths"; if it is indeed locales, then you might want to get the package localepurge, where you can tailor your available locales to suit your own needs.
But from what you write here, it looks like I had a similar problem awhile back (and had long since forgot how to correct it). Somebody else here (Michael?) reminded me that TDE has an easy gui way to do that.
Look in the Trinity Control Center: TCC > System Admininstration > Paths.
Bill
On Sunday 21 May 2023 22:04:07 William Morder via tde-users wrote:
On Sunday 21 May 2023 06:59:34 ajh-valmer via tde-users wrote:
In my "/home/andre" I have these 3 folders : Téléchargements T�l�chargements Vid�léos Vid�os Modèles Mod�les
On Sunday 21 May 2023 22:04:07 William Morder via tde-users wrote:
I believe that your issue here is not "locales" but rather "paths"; if it is indeed locales, then you might want to get the package localepurge, where you can tailor your available locales to suit your own needs. But from what you write here, it looks like I had a similar problem awhile back (and had long since forgot how to correct it). Somebody else here (Michael?) reminded me that TDE has an easy gui way to do that. Look in the Trinity Control Center: TCC > System Admininstration > Paths.
Thank you William, It is the right solution, I choosed : Telechargement , Videos , Modeles, now I have these folders : Téléchargements , Telechargements, Videos , Vidéos, Modeles , Modèles. Finished the tiresome hieroglyphs !
Cheers, André
On Monday 22 May 2023 02:49:49 ajh-valmer via tde-users wrote:
On Sunday 21 May 2023 22:04:07 William Morder via tde-users wrote:
On Sunday 21 May 2023 06:59:34 ajh-valmer via tde-users wrote:
In my "/home/andre" I have these 3 folders : Téléchargements T�l�chargements Vid�léos Vid�os Modèles Mod�les
On Sunday 21 May 2023 22:04:07 William Morder via tde-users wrote:
I believe that your issue here is not "locales" but rather "paths"; if it is indeed locales, then you might want to get the package localepurge, where you can tailor your available locales to suit your own needs. But from what you write here, it looks like I had a similar problem awhile back (and had long since forgot how to correct it). Somebody else here (Michael?) reminded me that TDE has an easy gui way to do that. Look in the Trinity Control Center: TCC > System Admininstration > Paths.
Thank you William, It is the right solution, I choosed : Telechargement , Videos , Modeles, now I have these folders : Téléchargements , Telechargements, Videos , Vidéos, Modeles , Modèles. Finished the tiresome hieroglyphs !
Cheers, André
C'est bien!
Bill
On 2023/05/22 06:49 PM, ajh-valmer via tde-users wrote:
Finished the tiresome hieroglyphs !
Not really, that could be just the start, because it may indicate we have a bug in the way TDE creates those folders :-(
What strings did you enter into "paths" to get scrambled-eggs-strings initially?
Cheers Michele
On Monday 22 May 2023 12:04:15 Michele Calgaro via tde-users wrote:
On 2023/05/22 06:49 PM, ajh-valmer via tde-users wrote:
Finished the tiresome hieroglyphs !
Not really, that could be just the start, because it may indicate we have a bug in the way TDE creates those folders :-( What strings did you enter into "paths" to get scrambled-eggs-strings initially? Michele
Hello Michele,
Before : /home/andre/Téléchargements /home/andre/Modèles /home/andre/Vidéos
Now : /home/andre/Telechargements /home/andre/Modeles /home/andre/Videos
There is a locales problems with accented characters of some languages as french...
In english, you are lucky, no accented characters :-)
André
On Monday 22 May 2023 09:02:27 am ajh-valmer via tde-users wrote:
On Monday 22 May 2023 12:04:15 Michele Calgaro via tde-users wrote:
On 2023/05/22 06:49 PM, ajh-valmer via tde-users wrote:
Finished the tiresome hieroglyphs !
Not really, that could be just the start, because it may indicate we have a bug in the way TDE creates those folders :-( What strings did you enter into "paths" to get scrambled-eggs-strings initially? Michele
Hello Michele,
Before : /home/andre/Téléchargements /home/andre/Modèles /home/andre/Vidéos
Now : /home/andre/Telechargements /home/andre/Modeles /home/andre/Videos
There is a locales problems with accented characters of some languages as french...
Hi,
Not sure if this helps, but I usually have really odd characters on the command line show up as either empty boxes or boxes with an X in them. In Konqueror those same chars all show up as empty boxes. They do copy/paste and work for pathing and scripting.
Very (very) rarely I have seen characters turned into unicode (\u01C3) and hex (%E8). That usually breaks using them for pathing and scripting.
From R14.0.13
michael@local [~/data/trash]# mkdir 'Téléchargements' michael@local [~/data/trash]# ll {snip} drwxr-xr-x 2 michael michael 4096 May 22 09:42 Téléchargements {snip} michael@local [~/data/trash]# ls 'Téléchargements' michael@local [~/data/trash]# mkdir 'Téléchargements/Modèles' michael@local [~/data/trash]# ll 'Téléchargements' total 292 drwxr-xr-x 3 michael michael 4096 May 22 09:45 . drwxr-xr-x 14 michael michael 286720 May 22 09:42 .. drwxr-xr-x 2 michael michael 4096 May 22 09:45 Modèles michael@local [~/data/trash]# rmdir 'Téléchargements/Modèles' michael@local [~/data/trash]# rmdir 'Téléchargements'
HTH, Michael
On Monday 22 May 2023 07:02:27 ajh-valmer via tde-users wrote:
There is a locales problems with accented characters of some languages as french...
In english, you are lucky, no accented characters :-)
Andr�
Also no gender. That drives me nuts, trying to remember gender for words that would not seem to it the natural world.
Glad to see this seemed to have fixed your immediate problem with unwanted "hieroglyphs"; I don't quite follow why this might still be an issue, but I am curious to hear what the developers have to say on this one.
I have a strange issue myself with Kmail's presentation of text, which just developed spontaneously after upgrading to the latest packages. It seems like it ought not to be related, but something about it smells funny.
Bill
On Mon, 22 May 2023 16:02:27 +0200 ajh-valmer via tde-users users@trinitydesktop.org wrote:
There is a locales problems with accented characters of some languages as french...
In english, you are lucky, no accented characters :-)
Except that that leaves us without enough letters to write the language phonetically. We should never have gotten rid of thorn and eth, either. ;)
More to the point, the corrupted directory names you originally posted looked a *lot* like some of the spew I see sometimes when processing French text through Perl on a system whose default codepage is different from the original document's.
Could it be that somewhere along the way—either in the code creating these directories, or in the setup for the filesystem itself, something is expecting UTF-8 and getting ISO 8859-1, or vice-versa? (Since only the accented characters are corrupted, both encodings must be ASCII-compatible, or nearly so . . .)
E. Liddell
On 2023/05/23 09:56 AM, E. Liddell via tde-users wrote:
Could it be that somewhere along the way—either in the code creating these directories, or in the setup for the filesystem itself, something is expecting UTF-8 and getting ISO 8859-1, or vice-versa? (Since only the accented characters are corrupted, both encodings must be ASCII-compatible, or nearly so . . .)
This is what I suspect. Will need to be investigated further. Thanks everyone for the valuable input. Cheers Michele
ajh-valmer via tde-users wrote:
On Sunday 21 May 2023 22:04:07 William Morder via tde-users wrote:
On Sunday 21 May 2023 06:59:34 ajh-valmer via tde-users wrote:
In my "/home/andre" I have these 3 folders : Téléchargements T�l�chargements Vid�léos Vid�os Modèles Mod�les
On Sunday 21 May 2023 22:04:07 William Morder via tde-users wrote:
I believe that your issue here is not "locales" but rather "paths"; if it is indeed locales, then you might want to get the package localepurge, where you can tailor your available locales to suit your own needs. But from what you write here, it looks like I had a similar problem awhile back (and had long since forgot how to correct it). Somebody else here (Michael?) reminded me that TDE has an easy gui way to do that. Look in the Trinity Control Center: TCC > System Admininstration > Paths.
Thank you William, It is the right solution, I choosed : Telechargement , Videos , Modeles, now I have these folders : Téléchargements , Telechargements, Videos , Vidéos, Modeles , Modèles. Finished the tiresome hieroglyphs !
Cheers, André
Hi Andre, can you confirm if this issue is the same that you have?
https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/gitea/TDE/tdebase/issues/254
Thanks
On Monday 22 May 2023 17:06:35 deloptes via tde-users wrote:
On Sunday 21 May 2023 22:04:07 William Morder via tde-users wrote:
I believe that your issue here is not "locales" but rather "paths"; if it is indeed locales, then you might want to get the package localepurge, where you can tailor your available locales to suit your own needs. But from what you write here, it looks like I had a similar problem awhile back (and had long since forgot how to correct it). Somebody else here (Michael?) reminded me that TDE has an easy gui way to do that. Look in the Trinity Control Center: TCC > System Admininstration > Paths.
Hi Andre, can you confirm if this issue is the same that you have? https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/gitea/TDE/tdebase/issues/254
Not really, Now I have : Téléchargements Telechargements Vidéos Videos Modèles Modeles and not Téléchargements Vid©léos ModÚles anymore
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