21 May
2023
21 May
'23
1:59 p.m.
Hello,
In my "/home/andre" I have these 3 folders :
Téléchargements
Téléchargements
Vid©léos
Vidéos
ModÚles
Modèles
If I delete Téléchargements, Vid©léos and ModÚles,
at the next boot, they are automatically recreated.
How to avoid this recreation ?
localectl status
System Locale: LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8
VC Keymap: (unset)
X11 Layout: fr
X11 Model: pc105
X11 Variant: latin9
In console mode the accented characters cannot be displayed,
as é, à, è, ù...
Thanks, Cheers,
André
21 May
21 May
8:04 p.m.
On Sunday 21 May 2023 06:59:34 ajh-valmer via tde-users wrote:
Hello,
In my "/home/andre" I have these 3 folders :
Téléchargements
T�l�chargements
Vid�léos
Vid�os
Modèles
Mod�les
If I delete Téléchargements, Vid�léos and Modèles,
at the next boot, they are automatically recreated.
How to avoid this recreation ?
localectl status
System Locale: LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8
VC Keymap: (unset)
X11 Layout: fr
X11 Model: pc105
X11 Variant: latin9
In console mode the accented characters cannot be displayed,
as �, �, �, �...
Thanks, Cheers,
Andr�
I believe that your issue here is not "locales" but rather "paths"; if
it is
indeed locales, then you might want to get the package localepurge, where you
can tailor your available locales to suit your own needs.
But from what you write here, it looks like I had a similar problem awhile
back (and had long since forgot how to correct it). Somebody else here
(Michael?) reminded me that TDE has an easy gui way to do that.
Look in the Trinity Control Center: TCC > System Admininstration > Paths.
Bill
22 May
22 May
9:49 a.m.
On Sunday 21 May 2023 22:04:07 William Morder via tde-users wrote:
On Sunday 21 May 2023 06:59:34 ajh-valmer via
tde-users wrote:
> In my "/home/andre" I have these 3 folders :
> Téléchargements
> T�l�chargements
> Vid�léos
> Vid�os
> Modèles
> Mod�les
On Sunday 21 May 2023 22:04:07 William Morder via tde-users wrote:
I believe that your issue here is not
"locales" but rather "paths"; if it is
indeed locales, then you might want to get the package localepurge,
where you can tailor your available locales to suit your own needs.
But from what you write here, it looks like I had a similar problem awhile
back (and had long since forgot how to correct it). Somebody else here
(Michael?) reminded me that TDE has an easy gui way to do that.
Look in the Trinity Control Center: TCC > System Admininstration > Paths.
Thank you William, It is the right solution,
I choosed : Telechargement , Videos , Modeles,
now I have these folders :
Téléchargements , Telechargements,
Videos , Vidéos,
Modeles , Modèles.
Finished the tiresome hieroglyphs !
Cheers,
André
10:01 a.m.
On Monday 22 May 2023 02:49:49 ajh-valmer via tde-users wrote:
On Sunday 21 May 2023 22:04:07 William Morder via
tde-users wrote:
C'est bien!
Bill
On Sunday 21 May 2023 06:59:34 ajh-valmer via
tde-users wrote:
> In my "/home/andre" I have these 3 folders :
> Téléchargements
> T�l�chargements
> Vid�léos
> Vid�os
> Modèles
> Mod�les
On Sunday 21 May 2023 22:04:07 William Morder via tde-users wrote:
I believe that your issue here is not
"locales" but rather "paths"; if it
is indeed locales, then you might want to get the package localepurge,
where you can tailor your available locales to suit your own needs. But
from what you write here, it looks like I had a similar problem awhile
back (and had long since forgot how to correct it). Somebody else here
(Michael?) reminded me that TDE has an easy gui way to do that.
Look in the Trinity Control Center: TCC > System Admininstration > Paths.
Thank you William, It is the right solution,
I choosed : Telechargement , Videos , Modeles,
now I have these folders :
Téléchargements , Telechargements,
Videos , Vidéos,
Modeles , Modèles.
Finished the tiresome hieroglyphs !
Cheers,
André 
10:04 a.m.
On 2023/05/22 06:49 PM, ajh-valmer via tde-users wrote:
Finished the tiresome hieroglyphs !
Not really, that could be just the start, because it may indicate we have a bug in the way
TDE creates those folders :-(
What strings did you enter into "paths" to get scrambled-eggs-strings
initially?
Cheers
Michele
2:02 p.m.
On Monday 22 May 2023 12:04:15 Michele Calgaro via tde-users wrote:
On 2023/05/22 06:49 PM, ajh-valmer via tde-users
wrote:
Hello Michele,
Before :
/home/andre/Téléchargements
/home/andre/Modèles
/home/andre/Vidéos
Now :
/home/andre/Telechargements
/home/andre/Modeles
/home/andre/Videos
There is a locales problems with accented characters
of some languages as french...
In english, you are lucky, no accented characters :-)
André
Finished the tiresome hieroglyphs !
Not
really, that could be just the start, because it may indicate we
have a bug in the way TDE creates those folders :-(
What strings did you enter into "paths" to get scrambled-eggs-strings
initially? Michele 
2:58 p.m.
On Monday 22 May 2023 09:02:27 am ajh-valmer via tde-users wrote:
On Monday 22 May 2023 12:04:15 Michele Calgaro via
tde-users wrote:
Hi,
Not sure if this helps, but I usually have really odd characters on the
command line show up as either empty boxes or boxes with an X in them. In
Konqueror those same chars all show up as empty boxes. They do copy/paste
and work for pathing and scripting.
Very (very) rarely I have seen characters turned into unicode (\u01C3) and hex
(%E8). That usually breaks using them for pathing and scripting.
From R14.0.13
michael@local [~/data/trash]# mkdir 'Téléchargements'
michael@local [~/data/trash]# ll
{snip}
drwxr-xr-x 2 michael michael 4096 May 22 09:42 Téléchargements
{snip}
michael@local [~/data/trash]# ls 'Téléchargements'
michael@local [~/data/trash]# mkdir 'Téléchargements/Modèles'
michael@local [~/data/trash]# ll 'Téléchargements'
total 292
drwxr-xr-x 3 michael michael 4096 May 22 09:45 .
drwxr-xr-x 14 michael michael 286720 May 22 09:42 ..
drwxr-xr-x 2 michael michael 4096 May 22 09:45 Modèles
michael@local [~/data/trash]# rmdir 'Téléchargements/Modèles'
michael@local [~/data/trash]# rmdir 'Téléchargements'
HTH,
Michael
On 2023/05/22 06:49 PM, ajh-valmer via tde-users
wrote:
Hello Michele,
Before :
/home/andre/Téléchargements
/home/andre/Modèles
/home/andre/Vidéos
Now :
/home/andre/Telechargements
/home/andre/Modeles
/home/andre/Videos
There is a locales problems with accented characters
of some languages as french... Finished the tiresome hieroglyphs !
Not really, that could be just the start, because it may indicate we
have a bug in the way TDE creates those folders :-(
What strings did you enter into "paths" to get scrambled-eggs-strings
initially? Michele
7:46 p.m.
On Monday 22 May 2023 07:02:27 ajh-valmer via tde-users wrote:
There is a locales problems with accented characters
of some languages as french...
In english, you are lucky, no accented characters :-)
Andr�
Also no gender. That drives me nuts, trying to remember gender for words that
would not seem to it the natural world.
Glad to see this seemed to have fixed your immediate problem with
unwanted "hieroglyphs"; I don't quite follow why this might still be an
issue, but I am curious to hear what the developers have to say on this one.
I have a strange issue myself with Kmail's presentation of text, which just
developed spontaneously after upgrading to the latest packages. It seems like
it ought not to be related, but something about it smells funny.
Bill
23 May
23 May
12:56 a.m.
On Mon, 22 May 2023 16:02:27 +0200
ajh-valmer via tde-users <users(a)trinitydesktop.org> wrote:
There is a locales problems with accented characters
of some languages as french...
In english, you are lucky, no accented characters :-)
Except that that leaves us without enough letters to write the language
phonetically. We should never have gotten rid of thorn and eth, either. ;)
More to the point, the corrupted directory names you originally posted
looked a *lot* like some of the spew I see sometimes when processing
French text through Perl on a system whose default codepage is different
from the original document's.
Could it be that somewhere along the way—either in the code creating
these directories, or in the setup for the filesystem itself, something is
expecting UTF-8 and getting ISO 8859-1, or vice-versa? (Since only
the accented characters are corrupted, both encodings must be
ASCII-compatible, or nearly so . . .)
E. Liddell
3:08 p.m.
On 2023/05/23 09:56 AM, E. Liddell via tde-users wrote:
Could it be that somewhere along the way—either in the
code creating
these directories, or in the setup for the filesystem itself, something is
expecting UTF-8 and getting ISO 8859-1, or vice-versa? (Since only
the accented characters are corrupted, both encodings must be
ASCII-compatible, or nearly so . . .)
This is what I suspect. Will need to be investigated further.
Thanks everyone for the valuable input.
Cheers
Michele
22 May
22 May
3:06 p.m.
ajh-valmer via tde-users wrote:
On Sunday 21 May 2023 22:04:07 William Morder via
tde-users wrote:
Hi Andre,
can you confirm if this issue is the same that you have?
https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/gitea/TDE/tdebase/issues/254
Thanks
On Sunday 21 May 2023 06:59:34 ajh-valmer via
tde-users wrote:
> In my "/home/andre" I have these 3 folders :
> Téléchargements
> T�l�chargements
> Vid�léos
> Vid�os
> Modèles
> Mod�les
On Sunday 21 May 2023 22:04:07 William Morder via tde-users wrote:
I believe that your issue here is not
"locales" but rather "paths"; if it
is indeed locales, then you might want to get the package localepurge,
where you can tailor your available locales to suit your own needs.
But from what you write here, it looks like I had a similar problem
awhile back (and had long since forgot how to correct it). Somebody else
here (Michael?) reminded me that TDE has an easy gui way to do that.
Look in the Trinity Control Center: TCC > System Admininstration > Paths.
Thank you William, It is the right solution,
I choosed : Telechargement , Videos , Modeles,
now I have these folders :
Téléchargements , Telechargements,
Videos , Vidéos,
Modeles , Modèles.
Finished the tiresome hieroglyphs !
Cheers,
André
4:45 p.m.
On Monday 22 May 2023 17:06:35 deloptes via tde-users wrote:
> On Sunday 21 May 2023 22:04:07 William Morder via
tde-users wrote:
>> I believe that your issue here is not "locales" but rather
"paths"; if it
>> is indeed locales, then you might want to get the package localepurge,
>> where you can tailor your available locales to suit your own needs.
>> But from what you write here, it looks like I had a similar problem
>> awhile back (and had long since forgot how to correct it). Somebody else
>> here (Michael?) reminded me that TDE has an easy gui way to do that.
>> Look in the Trinity Control Center: TCC > System Admininstration > Paths.
Hi Andre,
can you confirm if this issue is the same that you have?
https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/gitea/TDE/tdebase/issues/254
Not really,
Now I have :
Téléchargements
Telechargements
Vidéos
Videos
Modèles
Modeles
and not Téléchargements Vid©léos ModÚles anymore
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