Alexandre,
As you know, disagreements we may have had, but I have always tried to give credit where credit was due.
At my local Linux Users Group meeting on Saturday, someone was wanting help to get Linux on his oldish laptop. Well, his father's. A refugee from XP. He had tried various versions/flavours of Ubuntu without success - they just wouldn't install.
He expressed a definite preference for somehow getting Ubuntu on. And I had an Ubuntu + TDE Live CD with me.
So, TDE to the fore. I rushed to supply a Live/Install CD before anyone else. I fished out my Ubuntu + 14 and your PCLinuxOS + 14 with a view to giving him both to try. Exegnu was out because of multimedia etc. But Ubuntu was 64 bit. So that left yours. I said that I understood it had been expressly intended for older machines, so I thought that there was a high chance that it would both install OK and then run properly.
I handed it to him, but said sorry, it isn't Ubuntu. My Ubuntu + TDE live CD is 64 bit and I assume that you need 32 bit. He confirmed this, and took the PCLinuxOS CD. Someone else was still looking for possible Ubuntu CDs or other offerings, but somewhat idly he started to install your CD, expecting it to fail as everything else had, by when he would have other offerings to try.
It installed. No problem. One minor glitch. He accidentally installed the wrong keyboard - goodness only knows what it was! - and had to start again. No other problems. It Just Worked. By half way through he was saying that nothing else had got that far. I think he'll change the background - he shares my taste in pictures rather than yours - but we agreed that that was a very minor detail. He was delighted. A very satisfied customer.
So, hopefully, a convert for TDE; and also for PCLinuxOS! Kudos, Alexandre. Vive le Qébec libre or something. \o/
Lisi
On Monday 19 January 2015 16.16:57 Lisi Reisz wrote:
Alexandre,
As you know, disagreements we may have had, but I have always tried to give credit where credit was due.
At my local Linux Users Group meeting on Saturday, someone was wanting help to get Linux on his oldish laptop.
(... PCLinuxOS + 14)
installed. No problem.
(..)
Lisi
Hello Lisi,
How "oldish" ? I just dug out two Laptop I had used 15 years ago when I started using Linux (and KDE, 0.4 if I remember well). They use 600 and 700 MHz PIII, do you think Alexandre's PCLinuxOS could run on that? Otherwise I have to look if I still have older SuSE versions (of course Puppy should run on that, but it's a little light for me).
Thierry
On Monday 19 January 2015 15:53:04 Thierry de Coulon wrote:
On Monday 19 January 2015 16.16:57 Lisi Reisz wrote:
Alexandre,
As you know, disagreements we may have had, but I have always tried to give credit where credit was due.
At my local Linux Users Group meeting on Saturday, someone was wanting help to get Linux on his oldish laptop.
(... PCLinuxOS + 14)
installed. No problem.
(..)
Lisi
Hello Lisi,
How "oldish" ?
I don't know exactly - I didn't get a close look.
I just dug out two Laptop I had used 15 years ago when I started using Linux (and KDE, 0.4 if I remember well). They use 600 and 700 MHz PIII, do you think Alexandre's PCLinuxOS could run on that? Otherwise I have to look if I still have older SuSE versions (of course Puppy should run on that, but it's a little light for me).
I would have my reservations about Alexandre's CD running on your laptops, but I would also be inclined to give it a go. It is a Live CD. What have you to lose? But I would also try Exegnu Linux, and installing from, say, a Debian netinstall CD, and the repos. You don't say how much memory the laptops have. Live CDs need quite a lot of memory to run in the first place, which the installed OS may not.
Lisi
From: lisi.reisz@gmail.com To: trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 16:09:15 +0000 Subject: Re: [trinity-users] PCLinuxOS Trinity Live CD
On Monday 19 January 2015 15:53:04 Thierry de Coulon wrote:
On Monday 19 January 2015 16.16:57 Lisi Reisz wrote:
Alexandre,
As you know, disagreements we may have had, but I have always tried to give credit where credit was due.
At my local Linux Users Group meeting on Saturday, someone was wanting help to get Linux on his oldish laptop.
(... PCLinuxOS + 14)
installed. No problem.
(..)
Lisi
Hello Lisi,
How "oldish" ?
I don't know exactly - I didn't get a close look.
I just dug out two Laptop I had used 15 years ago when I started using Linux (and KDE, 0.4 if I remember well). They use 600 and 700 MHz PIII, do you think Alexandre's PCLinuxOS could run on that? Otherwise I have to look if I still have older SuSE versions (of course Puppy should run on that, but it's a little light for me).
I would have my reservations about Alexandre's CD running on your laptops, but I would also be inclined to give it a go. It is a Live CD. What have you to lose? But I would also try Exegnu Linux, and installing from, say, a Debian netinstall CD, and the repos. You don't say how much memory the laptops have. Live CDs need quite a lot of memory to run in the first place, which the installed OS may not.
Lisi
Hi Lisi,
I'm delighted to see that you did try my LiveCD. Thank you very much! It is still based on 3.5.13.2, instead of R14 as you wrote, but it is not a problem at all.
I'd say that if your laptop has at least 512mb of RAM, you will be okay on PCLinuxOS. It should work from as low as 256mb, but choose to go right to the installer on the GRUB boot menu, so that it will work. Hardware support and detection works most of the time flawlessly. PCLinuxOS is the linux that ''just works'', so it is always my best choice.
I will decide in the following weeks if I will still base my remaster on TDE 3.5.13.2 another time or if I'll upgrade it to R14.0.0. But 3.5.13.2 reliability is so good!
Thank you very much! -Alexandre
On Monday 19 January 2015 19:24:33 Alexandre wrote:
I'm delighted to see that you did try my LiveCD. Thank you very much!
I already had and always do. And I quite often use one of yours when I want a Live CD. But it was the first time I had actually been involved in offering it to someone else to install, So I was very chuffed when it worked so well! Especially when it beat Ubuntu!!! And TDE is, of course, great in that situation.
And it gave a good impression of the LUG - he came to have a problem solved, and it was solved.
It is still based on 3.5.13.2, instead of R14 as you wrote, but it is not a problem at all.
Sorry, yes. I did actually know that if I had been thinking. Don't worry, I just told the user that it was TDE, no version mentioned.
Lisi
On 01/20/2015 02:24 AM, Alexandre wrote:
From: lisi.reisz@gmail.com To: trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 16:09:15 +0000 Subject: Re: [trinity-users] PCLinuxOS Trinity Live CD
On Monday 19 January 2015 15:53:04 Thierry de Coulon wrote:
On Monday 19 January 2015 16.16:57 Lisi Reisz wrote:
Alexandre,
As you know, disagreements we may have had, but I have always
tried to
give credit where credit was due.
At my local Linux Users Group meeting on Saturday, someone was
wanting
help to get Linux on his oldish laptop.
(... PCLinuxOS + 14)
installed. No problem.
(..)
Lisi
Hello Lisi,
How "oldish" ?
I don't know exactly - I didn't get a close look.
I just dug out two Laptop I had used 15 years ago when I started using Linux (and KDE, 0.4 if I remember well). They use
600 and 700
MHz PIII, do you think Alexandre's PCLinuxOS could run on that?
Otherwise I
have to look if I still have older SuSE versions (of course Puppy
should
run on that, but it's a little light for me).
I would have my reservations about Alexandre's CD running on your
laptops, but
I would also be inclined to give it a go. It is a Live CD. What have
you to
lose? But I would also try Exegnu Linux, and installing from, say, a
Debian
netinstall CD, and the repos. You don't say how much memory the laptops have. Live CDs need quite a lot of memory to run in the first place,
which
the installed OS may not.
Lisi
Hi Lisi,
I'm delighted to see that you did try my LiveCD. Thank you very much! It is still based on 3.5.13.2, instead of R14 as you wrote, but it is not a problem at all.
I'd say that if your laptop has at least 512mb of RAM, you will be okay on PCLinuxOS. It should work from as low as 256mb, but choose to go right to the installer on the GRUB boot menu, so that it will work. Hardware support and detection works most of the time flawlessly. PCLinuxOS is the linux that ''just works'', so it is always my best choice.
I will decide in the following weeks if I will still base my remaster on TDE 3.5.13.2 another time or if I'll upgrade it to R14.0.0. But 3.5.13.2 reliability is so good!
Thank you very much! -Alexandre
Hmmm it wouldn't hurt if you build and release the R14 as an Alpha or Beta That way you get feedback Tony
I will decide in the following weeks if I will still base my remaster on TDE 3.5.13.2 another time or if I'll upgrade it to R14.0.0. But 3.5.13.2 reliability is so good!
Thank you very much!
-Alexandre
Hmmm
it wouldn't hurt if you build and release the R14 as an Alpha or Beta
That way you get feedback
Tony
Hi Tony,
(sorry for the delay...) I'm sorry to say that while TDE R14.0.0 introduced some new features, it also introduced some bugs. Since TDE 3.5.13.2 is very reliable on PCLinuxOS, I will stick to it for the next release on my remaster. But the R14-series is only at its first release, so I expect it to get better in the upcoming months.
Thank you! -Alexandre
On 01/27/2015 06:54 AM, Alexandre wrote:
I will decide in the following weeks if I will still base my remaster on TDE 3.5.13.2 another time or if I'll upgrade it to R14.0.0. But 3.5.13.2 reliability is so good! Thank you very much! -AlexandreHmmm it wouldn't hurt if you build and release the R14 as an Alpha or Beta That way you get feedback Tony
Hi Tony,
(sorry for the delay...) I'm sorry to say that while TDE R14.0.0 introduced some new features, it also introduced some bugs. Since TDE 3.5.13.2 is very reliable on PCLinuxOS, I will stick to it for the next release on my remaster. But the R14-series is only at its first release, so I expect it to get better in the upcoming months.
Thank you! -Alexandre
Sure Alexandre, it was just a thought. Your last release is indeed rock-stable. I use it on a daily base . Thanks so far. Tony
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