Hi all,
I have been following TDE development, howeverI don't like Ubuntu's "way of life" and Debian Squeese lacked some drivers I need, so I've been using Squeese based Mepis 11 for the last moths (Warren finaly put together a usable KDE 4.x desktop).
With the release of TDE 3.5.13 I decided to look if I could install it on Mepis. I followed the instructions for Squeese and actually everything went smoothly, except that update-initramfs failed, so I had to run it again with -t -u
The problem I'm trying to solve is this: after reboot, I was able to choose TDE as environment for my session. However, I get a "Could not start kdeinit. check your installation" message. When I click "OK", TDE seems to load correctly, but kicker crashes on me very often, some settings can't be done (e.g. I cant change the clock, clicking on "configure clock" crashes kicker). I don't seem to find the TDE settings, which I would expect to be linked to this error too.
Where should I look to try and understand *what* prevents kdeinit to start? I'm not sure if this culd be a KDE 4 / TDE conflict. This is not a production install, so I can try almost anything.
thanks for any suggestions,
Thierry
Hi all,
I have been following TDE development, howeverI don't like Ubuntu's "way of life" and Debian Squeese lacked some drivers I need, so I've been using Squeese based Mepis 11 for the last moths (Warren finaly put together a usable KDE 4.x desktop).
With the release of TDE 3.5.13 I decided to look if I could install it on Mepis. I followed the instructions for Squeese and actually everything went smoothly, except that update-initramfs failed, so I had to run it again with -t -u
The problem I'm trying to solve is this: after reboot, I was able to choose TDE as environment for my session. However, I get a "Could not start kdeinit. check your installation" message. When I click "OK", TDE seems to load correctly, but kicker crashes on me very often, some settings can't be done (e.g. I cant change the clock, clicking on "configure clock" crashes kicker). I don't seem to find the TDE settings, which I would expect to be linked to this error too.
Where should I look to try and understand *what* prevents kdeinit to start? I'm not sure if this culd be a KDE 4 / TDE conflict. This is not a production install, so I can try almost anything.
thanks for any suggestions,
Thierry
Can you post the Qt3 version you have installed with: dpkg -l | grep qt-x11
Thanks!
Tim
On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Timothy Pearson kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net wrote:
Can you post the Qt3 version you have installed with: dpkg -l | grep qt-x11
Thanks!
Tim
Thank you Tim. Actually this command returns... nothing. Note that I had to start with KDE 4 as I could not open konsole in TDE. I also checked synaptic but there is neither a qt3 or a qt-x11 available.
Do I understand right that Mepis is missing Qt3, so Trinity can't really start?
Thierry
On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 9:45 PM, Werner Joss werner@hoernerfranzracing.de wrote:
On Saturday 12 November 2011 21:37:24 Thierry de Coulon wrote:
Thank you Tim. Actually this command returns... nothing
so, what does dpkg -l | grep libqt write ?
werner
Writes:
ii libqt3-i18n 3:3.3.8b-7 i18n files for Qt3 library ii libqt3-mt 3:3.3.8b-7+b1 Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime version), Version 3 ii libqt4-assistant 4:4.7.1-2 transitional package for Qt 4 assistant module ii libqt4-core 4:4.7.1-2 transitional package for Qt 4 core non-GUI runtime libraries ii libqt4-dbus 4:4.7.1-2 Qt 4 D-Bus module ii libqt4-designer 4:4.7.1-2 Qt 4 designer module ii libqt4-gui 4:4.7.1-2 transitional package for Qt 4 GUI runtime libraries ii libqt4-help 4:4.7.1-2 Qt 4 help module ii libqt4-network 4:4.7.1-2 Qt 4 network module ii libqt4-opengl 4:4.7.1-2 Qt 4 OpenGL module ii libqt4-qt3support 4:4.7.1-2 Qt 3 compatibility library for Qt 4 ii libqt4-script 4:4.7.1-2 Qt 4 script module ii libqt4-scripttools 4:4.7.1-2 Qt 4 script tools module ii libqt4-sql 4:4.7.1-2 Qt 4 SQL module ii libqt4-sql-mysql 4:4.7.1-2 Qt 4 MySQL database driver ii libqt4-sql-sqlite 4:4.7.1-2 Qt 4 SQLite 3 database driver ii libqt4-svg 4:4.7.1-2 Qt 4 SVG module ii libqt4-test 4:4.7.1-2 Qt 4 test module ii libqt4-webkit 4:4.7.1-2 transitional package for Qt 4 WebKit module ii libqt4-xml 4:4.7.1-2 Qt 4 XML module ii libqt4-xmlpatterns 4:4.7.1-2 Qt 4 XML patterns module ii libqtassistantclient4 4.6.3-1 Qt Assistant client library (runtime) ii libqtcore4 4:4.7.1-2 Qt 4 core module ii libqtcore4-perl 4.5~~svn1145508-2 perl bindings for the Qt Core library ii libqtgui4 4:4.7.1-2 Qt 4 GUI module ii libqtscript4-core 0.1.0-3 Qt Script bindings for the Qt 4 Core library ii libqtscript4-gui 0.1.0-3 Qt Script bindings for the Qt 4 Gui library ii libqtscript4-network 0.1.0-3 Qt Script bindings for the Qt 4 Network library ii libqtscript4-sql 0.1.0-3 Qt Script bindings for the Qt 4 SQL library ii libqtscript4-uitools 0.1.0-3 Qt Script bindings for the Qt 4 UiTools library ii libqtscript4-xml 0.1.0-3 Qt Script bindings for the Qt 4 XML library ii libqtwebkit4 2.0~week26-2 Web content engine library for Qt
Thierry
On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 9:45 PM, Werner Joss werner@hoernerfranzracing.de wrote:
On Saturday 12 November 2011 21:37:24 Thierry de Coulon wrote:
Thank you Tim. Actually this command returns... nothing
so, what does dpkg -l | grep libqt write ?
werner
Writes:
ii libqt3-i18n 3:3.3.8b-7 i18n files for Qt3 library ii libqt3-mt 3:3.3.8b-7+b1
<snip>
Here is your problem: libqt3-mt 3:3.3.8b-7+b1
Upgrade your Qt3 version to 3.3.8d and your problems should disappear.
Tim
On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 10:12 PM, Werner Joss werner@hoernerfranzracing.de wrote:
On Saturday 12 November 2011 22:03:48 Thierry de Coulon wrote:
ii libqt3-mt 3:3.3.8b-7+b1 Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime version), Version 3
so you do have qt3 library (latest version from tde 3.5.13 is 3.3.8d, though)
werner
Yes, and Tim says that's the problem. However there is not upgrade to 3.3.8d from apt-get (I added the sqeeze repositories and did several apt-get upgrades. Synaptic says I have the latest available version.
As far as my google is concerned, "libqt3-mt 3.3.8d" returns "did not match any documents". The only references to 3.38d I can find seem to point to Trinity dev, but that does not help.
I might try building from source - if I find out where the libqt3-mt sources are - but I have very little experience of this....
Thierry
On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 10:12 PM, Werner Joss werner@hoernerfranzracing.de wrote:
On Saturday 12 November 2011 22:03:48 Thierry de Coulon wrote:
ii  libqt3-mt                 3:3.3.8b-7+b1         Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime version), Version 3
so you do have qt3 library (latest version from tde 3.5.13 is 3.3.8d, though)
werner
Yes, and Tim says that's the problem. However there is not upgrade to 3.3.8d from apt-get (I added the sqeeze repositories and did several apt-get upgrades. Synaptic says I have the latest available version.
As far as my google is concerned, "libqt3-mt 3.3.8d" returns "did not match any documents". The only references to 3.38d I can find seem to point to Trinity dev, but that does not help.
I might try building from source - if I find out where the libqt3-mt sources are - but I have very little experience of this....
3.3.8d for Debian Lenny and Debain Squeeze should be in the v3.5.13 archives:
https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~trinity/+archive/trinity-v3.5.13/+p...
Tim
On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Thierry de Coulon tdecoulon@gmail.comwrote:
On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 10:12 PM, Werner Joss
Yes, and Tim says that's the problem. However there is not upgrade to 3.3.8d from apt-get (I added the sqeeze repositories and did several apt-get upgrades. Synaptic says I have the latest available version.
As far as my google is concerned, "libqt3-mt 3.3.8d" returns "did not match any documents". The only references to 3.38d I can find seem to point to Trinity dev, but that does not help.
I might try building from source - if I find out where the libqt3-mt sources are - but I have very little experience of this....
Thierry
Pardon my ignorance, but I encountered these same problems when installing TDE on Linux Mint 11 x64 verbatim (using the Ubuntu Natty repos for TDE, fwiw).
Did you run apt-get update first? Before apt-get upgrade? If your repositories were not refreshed recently, the upgrade command would likely not have any effect.
Justin
On 13/11/11 02:49, Justin Soulia wrote:
On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Thierry de Coulon <tdecoulon@gmail.com mailto:tdecoulon@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 10:12 PM, Werner Joss Yes, and Tim says that's the problem. However there is not upgrade to 3.3.8d from apt-get (I added the sqeeze repositories and did several apt-get upgrades. Synaptic says I have the latest available version. As far as my google is concerned, "libqt3-mt 3.3.8d" returns "did not match any documents". The only references to 3.38d I can find seem to point to Trinity dev, but that does not help. I might try building from source - if I find out where the libqt3-mt sources are - but I have very little experience of this.... ThierryPardon my ignorance, but I encountered these same problems when installing TDE on Linux Mint 11 x64 verbatim (using the Ubuntu Natty repos for TDE, fwiw).
Did you run apt-get update first? Before apt-get upgrade? If your repositories were not refreshed recently, the upgrade command would likely not have any effect.
Justin
Might be a situation that aptitude will not resolve. What's the output of:
apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade -s
? (that does a full-upgrade simulation only, without "safe-uprade" restrictions
David
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 3:49 AM, Justin Soulia rockinup1231@gmail.com wrote:
Did you run apt-get update first? Before apt-get upgrade? If your repositories were not refreshed recently, the upgrade command would likely not have any effect. Justin
Yep, I updates everything I could and double checked the repositories. 3.3.8d seems to be "Trinity-only". I'll leave a message on Mepis to say it does work, so maybe they consider updating their reps... although I doubt. Answers to my first inquiries as to TDE where answered politely, but coldly. They jumped on the KDE 4 train and don't look another way.
Thierry
Le 12/11/2011 23:24, Thierry de Coulon a écrit :
Yes, and Tim says that's the problem. However there is not upgrade to 3.3.8d from apt-get (I added the sqeeze repositories and did several apt-get upgrades. Synaptic says I have the latest available version.
You'll have to force a "downgrade".
As root: for f in `dpkg -l | grep 3:3.3.8-d-0ubuntu0 | awk '{print $2}'` ; do apt-get install $f=3:3.3.8d-0ubuntu0+sr73+pr181~squeeze done
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Laurent Dard f.couperin@online.fr wrote:
Le 12/11/2011 23:24, Thierry de Coulon a écrit :
Yes, and Tim says that's the problem. However there is not upgrade to 3.3.8d from apt-get (I added the sqeeze repositories and did several apt-get upgrades. Synaptic says I have the latest available version.
You'll have to force a "downgrade".
As root: for f in `dpkg -l | grep 3:3.3.8-d-0ubuntu0 | awk '{print $2}'` ; do apt-get install $f=3:3.3.8d-0ubuntu0+sr73+pr181~squeeze done
-- Laurent Dard
Thanks for the syntax. Actually I simply installed from the gui and it worked, I assumed it just did something like dpkg -i
Thierry
Le 13/11/2011 11:26, Thierry de Coulon a écrit :
Actually I simply installed from the gui and it worked, I assumed it just did something like dpkg -i
Good news. Anyway, I misunderstood your problem which wasn't the same as mine.
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